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    That doesn't mean they will be terrible after he leaves. The Lakers always try to build through free agency and are always a top destination for the top free agents.

    I would not bet on them being bad after Lebron leaves.
    After LeBron and KD, who’s next? Giannis will not leave Bucks, likewise Jokic. Davis is a porcelain. Zion is probably heading to Knicks. Doncic is not leaving Dallas. I don’t really see any talent that would necessarily tip the balance.

    Actually looking at it, USA basketball might not be as dominant in the years after. But that’s maybe fit for another thread.

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    Probably the opposite. In addition to innate/genetic freakishness he has been treating his body like few others have for 15 years. He is not human at this point.
    Steriods

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    Hield & Turner for Ayton and Saric maybe? Then Phoenix could make an offer to Brooklyn with Hield, Turner, Bridges and picks

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    Lol.


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    Are we sure that pick swaps don't just give you the right to switch with ANY picks you have in the first round that year? I heard it being discussed that way by people I trust but I'm not sure. IOW not just your pick but picks you've acquired from other teams.

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    Lol.

    lmao yeah no ing they declined. If I'm Minnesota AE alone is untradeable.

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    That's really similar to what Morey was doing with Simmons last year, asking for king's ransoms.

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    Nets and their fans are delusional if they think they're going to get some kind of hefty package for their aging, injury prone star. Maybe if KD was 27 but no one is ponying up all that for a 34 year old KD.

    the teams that have the ability to trade for him would have to give up too much to where it wouldnt be worth it. and the other teams like us wouldnt have a point in trading for him anyway. KD really screwed the Nets big time

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    Lol.

    theres no way thats real lol

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    That doesn't mean they will be terrible after he leaves. The Lakers always try to build through free agency and are always a top destination for the top free agents.

    I would not bet on them being bad after Lebron leaves.
    No one went there between 2016 when Kobe retired and 2018 when LeBron signed on, and led them to the lottery. You also need to know that LeBron didn’t go to the Lakers, he went to LA to expand into the entertainment industry. Most players don’t care about or have the ability or $$$ to do that.

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    Nets and their fans are delusional if they think they're going to get some kind of hefty package for their aging, injury prone star. Maybe if KD was 27 but no one is ponying up all that for a 34 year old KD.

    the teams that have the ability to trade for him would have to give up too much to where it wouldnt be worth it. and the other teams like us wouldnt have a point in trading for him anyway. KD really screwed the Nets big time
    biggest risk of KD is him playing for 1-2 seasons and becoming disgruntled again, leaving another team in ashes

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    HGH. The jawline always tells the tale. He and Wade both grew beards after their first few years in the league to try to hide it.

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    No, you can swap whatever picks you have. The Spurs can't just unilaterally change their agreement with Boston to give them LAL's pick instead of their own, but they could agree to swap the worse of the BOS/SAS pick with LAL's pick in 2028. Just look at that mess of a swap for seconds in 2026. Also, as mentioned OKC had the right to swap Boston's 2021 first with Houston's had the Rockets not secured at top-three (or top-four -- I don't remember). They didn't even have the Boston pick when that original trade was made.
    OK disregard my previous post becuase this was how I understood it worked.

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    That doesn't mean they will be terrible after he leaves. The Lakers always try to build through free agency and are always a top destination for the top free agents.

    I would not bet on them being bad after Lebron leaves.
    Did we not witness nearly a decade of the Lakers missing the playoffs? after Lebron leaves they're gonna be rebuilding for awhile. Especially because the cupboard will be bare AF.

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    HGH. The jawline always tells the tale. He and Wade both grew beards after their first few years in the league to try to hide it.
    As someone who has smashed steroids in my younger days it isn’t that simple. If you think they were on PEDs than you are a conspiracist.

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    As someone who has smashed steroids in my younger days it isn’t that simple. If you think they were on PEDs than you are a conspiracist.
    LeBron is definitely pumping something. He's there with Peyton Manning.

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    LeBron is definitely pumping something. He's there with Peyton Manning.
    I mean he spends 1mm a year on diet, nutrition and professional MDs. Maybe he’s not natural but give the guy his flowers. This isn’t baseball where guys were just smashing juice they got from a raid at the local vet.

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    Probably the opposite. In addition to innate/genetic freakishness he has been treating his body like few others have for 15 years. He is not human at this point.

    Father time is undefeated.

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    That Lakers 2027 pick is going to be juicy AF tbh. If the Spurs can get that unprotected, I'd take Westbrook in a heartbeat.

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    That Lakers 2027 pick is going to be juicy AF tbh. If the Spurs can get that unprotected, I'd take Westbrook in a heartbeat.
    Just one pick? Taking Westbrook off their hands is the Lakers only shot at ringing again with Lebron most likely. That's easily worth 2 picks to shade over their incompetence.

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    LeBron is going wherever Bronny is drafted. He’s already said so. Besides, how much longer is he going to play, anyway? He’s entering his 20th season, and he has a ton of mileage, over 52K minutes in the regular season, with another 11K minutes in the playoffs. Tim’s numbers, for contrast, were 47K and 9K.
    Bronny might go undrafted or at the earliest, 2nd round. Prolly some team will hold him up to recruit LeBron or force the Lakers to give up something for Bronny. lol
    Funny if Bronny get drafted by one of the least desirable team/city.

    Anyways, he can always do that in teaming up with Bronny on his last or farewell season. I'm pretty sure LeBron is still eyeing for that 5th esp. with the Warriors (Curry) winning recently.
    LeBron still probably has the say with the Lakers' FO and the Lakers can't afford to stand pat esp. with LeBron's age. They're also probably tempted to overtake Celtics with the most number of championships.

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    If the Spurs rent Westbrook for a year, a lot of narratives go out the window: "character matters," "we only get guys who are over themselves," "defensive effort matters," "we're not tanking, we're rebuilding with youth," etc., etc... It would change the entire perception of the Spurs as an en y for the foreseeable future.

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    Bronny might go undrafted or at the earliest, 2nd round. Prolly some team will hold him up to recruit LeBron or force the Lakers to give up something for Bronny. lol
    Funny if Bronny get drafted by one of the least desirable team/city.

    Anyways, he can always do that in teaming up with Bronny on his last or farewell season. I'm pretty sure LeBron is still eyeing for that 5th esp. with the Warriors (Curry) winning recently.
    LeBron still probably has the say with the Lakers' FO and the Lakers can't afford to stand pat esp. with LeBron's age. They're also probably tempted to overtake Celtics with the most number of championships.
    As of right now, Bronnys first season will be LeBrons 22nd. There will not be any waiting.

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    ^ anyone who believes the chips will just fall into place and LBJ follows just can’t be helped in life. Second rounders have power these days if you haven’t noticed. Bronny is fringe NBA talent at this point which only makes it easier for he and LBJ to team up wherever they want. If’s not like the team that organically takes a chance on Bronny gets LBJ.

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