Russell Westbrook TO SPURS?

[LkrFan]

It's a roll of the dice, for sure. They could sit on him all summer or even up to the trade deadline, and see if some new team comes into the mix who is desperate for his services.

They also could wait too long and the market will completely dry up.

That said, when your only option is absorbing a worse contract in Westbrook and taking pennies on the dollar from the Lakers just because they are the only team interested...I wouldn't be in any rush.

Hard to say if those Lakers FRPs will be worth much anyways...those mother ers always seem to luck into crazy ways to stay compe ive (provided their FO doesn't massively screw it up like last season)

[Dex]

Just because we like you doesn't mean we like the Lakers

[LkrFan]

Hard to picture a notoriously frugal team that pinched pennies during the Duncan era buying Westbrook out for $47mil... I guess we'll see. You don't want to cut off your nose to spite your face, but using all of that cap space to help the Lakers potentially compete again, and to help Kyrie get his way feels really lame.

Pop finna help Bron get his 5th Infinity Stone

[KingKev]

Pop finna help Bron get his 5th Infinity Stone

haha I’m hearing the Raps actually sent coach Pop a ring for 2019!!

[LkrFan]

imo just getting rid of Westbrook for actual useful players (not Irving) will cost the Lakers both their 2027 and 2029 picks. They might be able to get some protections on there depending on which players they get in return.

But yeah, the only way I see the Spurs getting involved is if there's a 4th team too, one that would take Irving and provide enough assets on top of what the Lakers offer to appease both the Nets and Spurs. And even then there's probably no need for the Spurs to get involved at all. WB's contract is awful but it's only for one year.

You farmers playing checkers again. Once upon a time a scrub had a $9 million dollar expiring contract. He was traded for MVPau.

Fast forward to 2022. There's a top 75 player (who averaged 18-7-7) on an expiring $47 million dollar contract, who can still play.

Do you farmers realize what opening up $47 million dollars of cap space next summer will do for a team who needs it? Memphis didn't trade their 0-12 in the playoffs franchise player in 2008. They traded for the 2009 cap relief Kwame's contract would give them.

I laugh when fans who hate on Russ ignore the tremendous benefits a team will reap for trading for him. It might be the largest expiring contract in NBA history.

[LkrFan]

Just because we like you doesn't mean we like the Lakers

[LkrFan]

haha I’m hearing the Raps actually sent coach Pop a ring for 2019!!

[Mr. Body]

You farmers playing checkers again. Once upon a time a scrub had a $9 million dollar expiring contract. He was traded for MVPau.

Fast forward to 2022. There's a top 75 player (who averaged 18-7-7) on an expiring $47 million dollar contract, who can still play.

Do you farmers realize what opening up $47 million dollars of cap space next summer will do for a team who needs it? Memphis didn't trade their 0-12 in the playoffs franchise player in 2008. They traded for the 2009 cap relief Kwame's contract would give them.

I laugh when fans who hate on Russ ignore the tremendous benefits a team will reap for trading for him. It might be the largest expiring contract in NBA history.

We all know that Memphis trade was Jerry West being super shady.

And if Westbrook's xpiring is so valuable you should have a line out the door. Good luck!

[exstatic]

Spurs can get off Jakob Poeltl and Richardson, then buyout Westbrick. This helps your tanking efforts as well. Win win. Do it RC!

We got a FRP for Thad Young at the deadline. We don’t need to ‘get off’ of Poeltl and JRich. Those are FRPs waiting to be monetized.

[LkrFan]

I don't think y'all understand how desprate the Nets are to just get rid of Irving.

I understand

[LkrFan]

We all know that Memphis trade was Jerry West being super shady.

And if Westbrook's xpiring is so valuable you should have a line out the door. Good luck!

Npe - his contract ended on July 1, 2007

[Mr. Body]

I live in Brooklyn and follow them. The team can just wait things out. The Lakers are in an incredibly bad spot. They're wasting LeBron's last year and are signing guys like Walker and Thomas Bryant to breathe life into a dying team. They desperately need someone like Kyrie. The Nets view him as much as a sunk cost. He sat last year, he can sit until the Lakers decide to load in picks -- both of them -- and then go. Maybe if it's deadline they can do one pick, but it's doubtful. I don't see Marks feeling desperate to move Kyrie. He can just stay home.

[John B]

We got a FRP for Thad Young at the deadline. We don’t need to ‘get off’ of Poeltl and JRich. Those are FRPs waiting to be monetized.

I like to see Poeltl play with Sochan see how that goes. And Poeltl pnr with Brahnam should also be interesting.

[Dex]

I live in Brooklyn and follow them. The team can just wait things out. The Lakers are in an incredibly bad spot. They're wasting LeBron's last year and are signing guys like Walker and Thomas Bryant to breathe life into a dying team. They desperately need someone like Kyrie. The Nets view him as much as a sunk cost. He sat last year, he can sit until the Lakers decide to load in picks -- both of them -- and then go. Maybe if it's deadline they can do one pick, but it's doubtful. I don't see Marks feeling desperate to move Kyrie. He can just stay home.

I think it's worth noting that I'm pretty sure there is some bad blood here. Kyrie basically sunk the Nets last season, drove out James Harden, and now Durant wants out of the whole mess.

This guy literally blew up their organization, and now he comes out and demands he wants to go to the Lakers. Why would they be compelled to do him any favors?

Also, why should they want to breathe life into a struggling Lakers team?

Lakers gotta figure out a better offer than one bad contract and two ty FRPs if they expect help here

[LkrFan]

I live in Brooklyn and follow them. The team can just wait things out. The Lakers are in an incredibly bad spot. They're wasting LeBron's last year and are signing guys like Walker and Thomas Bryant to breathe life into a dying team. They desperately need someone like Kyrie. The Nets view him as much as a sunk cost. He sat last year, he can sit until the Lakers decide to load in picks -- both of them -- and then go. Maybe if it's deadline they can do one pick, but it's doubtful. I don't see Marks feeling desperate to move Kyrie. He can just stay home.

Maybe, but truth be told, we don't give a John Clawd Van Daaaaamn about them picks. I just don't want them to overpay if no one else is tryna trade for him.

Unless you're clearly as talented as Magic, Worthy or Kobe, the Lakers don't develop lottery talent and keep them. Eff them picks

[LkrFan]

I think it's worth noting that I'm pretty sure there is some bad blood here. Kyrie basically sunk the Nets last season, drove out James Harden, and now Durant wants out of the whole mess.

Bad blood or not, he's a max player. Fully pay him like one or he walks next summer to the Lakers anyway. This the same dude who left $17 milli on the table because he didn't want the Pfizer vax. He will call their bluff.

This guy literally blew up their organization, and now he comes out and demands he wants to go to the Lakers. Why would they be compelled to do him any favors?

For the same reason Memphis did in 2008. Basketball wise, you are right. Business wise you ain't. Grizz fans were lighting their pitchforks in 2008...then 3 years later they reaped the benefits of better roster construction and cap flexibility the Lakers gave them, leading to upsetting the first seeded Sprs in 2011

Also, why should they want to breathe life into a struggling Lakers team?

Small market teams do it all the time. Suck, get a high lotto pick, mismanage assets, lose a franchise player. Take Nawlins for example. They fumbled CP0 and AD. Short of them winning a chip, do you think Zion is staying despite that rookie max he signed? I don't

Lakers gotta figure out a better offer than one bad contract and two ty FRPs if they expect help here

I'm betting the bad blood is real between Kyrie and the Nets makes Pelinka give up only 1 pick. The Nets cannot afford to bring a disgruntled player in to camp especially after trading Frauden and probably trading KD too. Their rebuild starts when they send Killa to my Lakers.

The Lakers are eerily similar to Thans

[LkrFan]

Can any of you salary cap gurus validate this:

The Spurs can't just "sit" below the salary cap. So assume the salary cap is around $120M, at minimum they need to have $108M (90%) salary commitment, if not they need to pay their current players more money until they hit that.

This was put in place to eliminate cheap owners

[MannyIsGod]

Homie you're awfully loud for a fan of a team that with Lebron managed to up their front offices moves so bad they couldn't finish ahead of a team with Dejounte Murray as their best player. Thanos? More like Grimmace.

[Mr. Body]

Kyrie Irving has proven he is not a max player.

Good luck to the Lakers signing him next year after LeBron leaves. Flat Earth Kyrie and Anthony "Street Clothes" Davis ought to be fun to watch miss the playoffs together for the third year in a row.

[LkrFan]

Homie you're awfully loud for a fan of a team that with Lebron managed to up their front offices moves so bad they couldn't finish ahead of a team with Dejounte Murray as their best player. Thanos? More like Grimmace.

[FutureMan]

Crap crap and a pick swap for Durant?

I was thinking maybe Dunn too but it really depends on how much Irving is worth. Is it a lot or is it pretty much nothing? We won’t know for sure until we see a trade go through.

[lmbebo]

Bad blood or not, he's a max player. Fully pay him like one or he walks next summer to the Lakers anyway. This the same dude who left $17 milli on the table because he didn't want the Pfizer vax. He will call their bluff.


For the same reason Memphis did in 2008. Basketball wise, you are right. Business wise you ain't. Grizz fans were lighting their pitchforks in 2008...then 3 years later they reaped the benefits of better roster construction and cap flexibility the Lakers gave them, leading to upsetting the first seeded Sprs in 2011


Small market teams do it all the time. Suck, get a high lotto pick, mismanage assets, lose a franchise player. Take Nawlins for example. They fumbled CP0 and AD. Short of them winning a chip, do you think Zion is staying despite that rookie max he signed? I don't



I'm betting the bad blood is real between Kyrie and the Nets makes Pelinka give up only 1 pick. The Nets cannot afford to bring a disgruntled player in to camp especially after trading Frauden and probably trading KD too. Their rebuild starts when they send Killa to my Lakers.

The Lakers are eerily similar to Thans

Thing is, I don't think the Nets care about forcing Kyrie to just sit on the sideline. They've watched him to do it already over multiple things. So I don't think they need to dump him just to get rid of him. Yes, they'd like to be rid of him, but don't think they are in a position where they have to make a move financially. Whats the worst it could be? Running it back like last year?

[lmbebo]

Can any of you salary cap gurus validate this:

Thats what I've heard as well. Need to have a base spend, otherwise you just pay your current players more to make it to the base.

[Wu36]

[spurraider21]

I was thinking maybe Dunn too but it really depends on how much Irving is worth. Is it a lot or is it pretty much nothing? We won’t know for sure until we see a trade go through.

Oh so crap crap crap and pick swap