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    Bruh these are meaningless games and he’ll clean them up.
    not really, this was the most anticipated Spurs game of the 22/23 season

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    I saw Wesley’s highlights…He already looks like a better more naturally talented basketball player than Murray

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    100% Its amazing how many people will just make mistake after mistake after mistake and never stop with their takes.
    exactly. In fact, ST can stand for Spurs Talk or Takes. More often than not, it’s the latter.

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    Bruh these are meaningless games and he’ll clean them up.
    Were the games he played in last year meaningless where he had the same issue?

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    not really, this was the most anticipated Spurs game of the 22/23 season
    i wouldn’t equate most anticipated with meaningful

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    My view, halfway up the stands center side of the Spurs bench.

    I decided to watch Barlow 100%, tended to follow Wesley when Barlow was off, and Hall because he was high in Pelton stats.

    Barlow: Wow!, I don't believe I've ever seen a Spur cover so much ground on defense so quickly, anticipating passes and very good help. OTOH, I don't think Barlow has ever faced a big that could shoot far away from the basket, and gave Sylla and Osborne too much room. Barlow would shake his head and over the game played a few feet further out. Barlow's speed is very good and I expect rapid defensive improvement as he learns the faster game.
    6 fouls, two saving baskets as help, 1 was a miscall of a Woodard foul

    Wesley played as described by many other involved.

    Hall was opened mouth shocked about Cavaliers in his passing lane. Let's see if he's safer in game #2.

    Branham I did not like. After several Wesley aggressive plays, Branham twice tried to drive to the basket, tripled and double team. A good shot on the double, but still on the ego dumb side. Add whining to the refs twice on offensive no-calls and once on his obvious foul, and I predict lots of quick benchings.

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    1 Barlow foul was really a Woodard foul underneath while Barlow was guarding outside on the baseline. Several fouls were miscalled in Cox during the three games, once on a player not in the game. While we had marginal refs, it seemed that the scorer's table was mostly at fault.

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    Best player I saw in 3 games was Josh Minott, great off ball movement, well timed screens, solid defense, and the best raw shooter.
    Christian Braun was very solid, but the few times they guarded each other, Minott was the better.

    The most exciting player was David Dukes, Jr. two-way hustle, with some Patty Mills sneakiness on one made-shot inbound steal.

    As Russ said, very crowded, and this in Cox with the lesser games. There were significantly more drunken frat reunion groups, and significantly fewer families. I sat on the team side for the Spurs/Cavaliers as they made us fill up that side to falsely telecast a full stadium. They were open about their reason. I went to the other side for Nets/Bucks, Nuggets/Timberwolves, and the Bucks fans were the 2nd jerkiest I've seen in four years (2017-2019, 2022), and maybe only the 2nd group I'd call jerks. Still, the Bucks fans are a distant 2nd.

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    Were the games he played in last year meaningless where he had the same issue?
    He’s still wayyy better than DJ at that age. The point is Primo is playing much better than last year and should still get better.

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    I saw Wesley’s highlights…He already looks like a better more naturally talented basketball player than Murray
    so you watched highlights of a summer league game and came to that conclusion? Not even the whole game? Just the highlights?

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    I saw Wesley’s highlights…He already looks like a better more naturally talented basketball player than Murray
    For those wondering, THIS is how long it takes for spur fans to stop appreciating spurs once they’re off the team. Complete homerism lol

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    For those wondering, THIS is how long it takes for spur fans to stop appreciating spurs once they’re off the team. Complete homerism lol
    I think people are perceiving that Murray was forcing his way out and the Spurs got in front of another Kawhi Leonard situation.

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    I think people are perceiving that Murray was forcing his way out and the Spurs got in front of another Kawhi Leonard situation.
    Regardless, that level of analysis is 75% of this board.

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    14 is already faster with the ball than Murray
    Murray mid range cross over pull up game was great and 14 needs to replicate that.

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    For those wondering, THIS is how long it takes for spur fans to stop appreciating spurs once they’re off the team. Complete homerism lol
    I think that was a poor way of phrasing things, but it was a relief to see a rookie that didn't seem like he needs to go to Austin to learn how to play basketball. Maybe White was also in that camp, but he was 23. Wesley looks like a rookie and will probably look even more so when he's in the company of real NBA players, but he did look like the best rookie the Spurs have had in the SL in a long time. Even his major weakness that's supposed to keep him from having an NBA role, shooting, seemed like something he might be able to work with. I don't think it's close to think that Wesley is showing way more at this point in his career than Murray did. People forget that DeJounte wasn't even considered a good defender in college. He had to grow a lot more than Wesley would have to to be an impact NBA player. It doesn't mean Wesley will do that, but I'm definitely happy with the pick at this point. I was much more reserved during the draft.

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    I would hope everyone slows their roll on Blake a bit. He's known for being inefficient and streaky. His speed was terrific, his vision was clear, his defense was good, but he's going to follow up games like these with stinkers. He'll get there.

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    I would hope everyone slows their roll on Blake a bit. He's known for being inefficient and streaky. His speed was terrific, his vision was clear, his defense was good, but he's going to follow up games like these with stinkers. He'll get there.
    I was going to say pretty much the same. Don't expect him to always be efficient, but look beyond that. The raw tools are right there in front of our eyes, the rest will come given enough time and practice. We just have to keep this in mind when he struggles.

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    The best thing about Wesley is he plays with a chip on his shoulder. The kid knows he belongs, or if not he will work hard to make sure he does. I’m not surprised they had to separate them at workout because he was that driven. That bears the question, IF Malaki is “too nice” and easily defers? Because Blake thought he came out as the best player on that workout. The last game Malaki seems a little too passive at first, and only until later on that he starts shooting and getting to his spots. I just hope that Malaki is not “too nice” like Derrick was. Derrick has all the skills, if only he was more driven like DJ. Let’s see the next game.

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    Agree wholeheartedly. It's funny to see the goal already being moved, his sop re season not having officially started yet... And you forgot to mention: this SpursTalk hatewagon is the same people who spent YEARS on the "Dejounte isn't a PG!! He can't even dribble, nor shoot!!" train, whilst DJ developed all the way from a clunky, lanky and awkward kid, into a literal All-Star level player. Like, we've played out this EXACT movie the past 4-5 years... And people STILL haven't learned from it.

    I'm not saying Primo is a surefire PG (I don't even know if I'd want him there; I haven't seen the apparently ground-breaking concept of "point-forward" mentioned once in this thread, and that's exactly where I'm seeing Primo shine in the future). But the discrediting arguments at this point in time are ridiculous, especially given the very visible improvements on his game & physique from last year. He popped out of the frame in the 4th, when he cared to do so (and his coach told him to "gimme more of that").
    Spot on.

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    I think that was a poor way of phrasing things, but it was a relief to see a rookie that didn't seem like he needs to go to Austin to learn how to play basketball. Maybe White was also in that camp, but he was 23. Wesley looks like a rookie and will probably look even more so when he's in the company of real NBA players, but he did look like the best rookie the Spurs have had in the SL in a long time. Even his major weakness that's supposed to keep him from having an NBA role, shooting, seemed like something he might be able to work with. I don't think it's close to think that Wesley is showing way more at this point in his career than Murray did. People forget that DeJounte wasn't even considered a good defender in college. He had to grow a lot more than Wesley would have to to be an impact NBA player. It doesn't mean Wesley will do that, but I'm definitely happy with the pick at this point. I was much more reserved during the draft.
    Wesley and Primo are both well ahead of DJM. They both have the same work ethic and dog in them as well. Wesley seems much more of a team centric player as well for me than Primo as far as doing the little things, especially on defense. He was very fun to watch. Put him with players who can open the court for him and I expect to see some highlights from him sooner than later. He said he sees himself as a PG first. I think him and vassell will compliment eachother very well on defense. Primo and keldon obviously with the shooting. Hope he gets the opportunity to play with them.

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    The best thing about Wesley is he plays with a chip on his shoulder. The kid knows he belongs, or if not he will work hard to make sure he does. I’m not surprised they had to separate them at workout because he was that driven. That bears the question, IF Malaki is “too nice” and easily defers? Because Blake thought he came out as the best player on that workout. The last game Malaki seems a little too passive at first, and only until later on that he starts shooting and getting to his spots. I just hope that Malaki is not “too nice” like Derrick was. Derrick has all the skills, if only he was more driven like DJ. Let’s see the next game.
    I don't want to say Branham is passive, or that he's more cerebral while Wesley is more instinctive. That seems unfair to both of them. Branham might have a more system-oriented game and even an analytical approach. It's worth remembering that it took him a little while to start impacting his OSU team. Once he droped 35 on Nebraska, he barely looked back. In one thread I broke down his stats in his last 20 games, which I believe were all double digits, and then his last 10 games, including conference and national tournaments. His production kept ramping up.

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    Yeah Branham ages like a fine wine. There is a total college compilation game tape YouTube that's like 2 hours long and it goes in order and at first you're like that's it? But you see how Bran progresses over the course of the season at tOSU and by mid tape he is going one man army just totally taking over games.

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    I think Primo and Wesley have a chance to be a great fit as a backcourt pair. I guess they wouldn't have to start together, but if Blake's defense is a big positive for him, then it might back sense. For folks who want Johnson on the team as a small-forward, it starts to create a crunch with Vassell. Maybe Wesley would be a better sixth man, but I kind of think that'll be what Branham does. If everyone pans out, it'll be something to worry about. Now, it's just nice that there are options.

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    Maybe the end game is

    Wesley
    Primo
    Vassell
    Keldon
    Sochan

    spurs death line up

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    Maybe the end game is

    Wesley
    Primo
    Vassell
    Keldon
    Sochan

    spurs death line up
    ::preorders Spurs NBA 2027 back to back Champs official apparel::

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