Spurs needs to tank hard and target Wembanyama un 2023

[Seventyniner]

They just traded 25 year all star Murray because they didn't want to pay him in two years. Why keep the 26 year old big they also won't want to pay in two years? Convert that into picks instead of losing him for nothing on a team now too young to consider him an important piece.

Poeltl is on the last year of his deal. That's a big difference; when trading for players who are outproducing their salary you want the contract length to be as long as possible.

That said, Poeltl should definitely fetch more than Thad Young did. But I wouldn't expect multiple firsts. Even 1.5 (a guaranteed first and a protected one with a 50% chance to convey) is probably a stretch imo.

[baseline bum]

Poeltl is on the last year of his deal. That's a big difference; when trading for players who are outproducing their salary you want the contract length to be as long as possible.

That said, Poeltl should definitely fetch more than Thad Young did. But I wouldn't expect multiple firsts. Even 1.5 (a guaranteed first and a protected one with a 50% chance to convey) is probably a stretch imo.

Crap thought he had one more year after this upcoming year.

[rjv]

We don't need a butt load of picks, just one FRP would be better than letting him walk for nothing. Not to mention that it also helps our goal of winning the least amount of games possible.

if the spurs can get one solid FRP for him, i'll be the first to be pleasantly surprised.

[rjv]

That is true, but it will be compensated by the fact that Pop will genuinely try to win games (even if he can't), when those other teams will intentionally tank even if they have more talent. And it doesn't take a lot of effort to do so, you just have to look at the matchup between teams at the bottom, and I suspect the Spurs will have BY FAR the best head to head record against those teams... not because we're better... but because we're trying to WIN, when they're trying to LOSE.

the saying goes that "players don't tank, organizations do." what would have to happen is that the spurs would have to intentionally sit their best players which would seem an odd move for a franchise trying to fill seats.

[TD 21]

Bottom 5 isn't enough, we need to be bottom 3. With Poeltl, Richardson and the other vets we aren't going to be that bad, that's why we need to trade them. Also, to get more first round picks.

Anyone with a brain knows they need to trade Poeltl and Richardson, but notion that they "aren't going to be that bad" with them is insane. They have to be the odds on favorite to be the worst team in the league at the moment.

[DAF86]

if the spurs can get one solid FRP for him, i'll be the first to be pleasantly surprised.

The Spurs got a FRP for the corpse of Thad Young, why wouldn't they get a FRP for a much better player, like is Poeltl?

[DAF86]

Anyone with a brain knows they need to trade Poeltl and Richardson, but notion that they "aren't going to be that bad" with them is insane. They have to be the odds on favorite to be the worst team in the league at the moment.

And who's saying that?

[rjv]

The Spurs got a FRP for the corpse of Thad Young, why wouldn't they get a FRP for a much better player, like is Poeltl?

if they can get an unprotected FRP for poeltl from a crap team-great.

[DAF86]

if they can get an unprotected FRP for poeltl from a crap team-great.

Get real. No crap team is going to do that type of trade. Only teams interested in Poeltl will be playoffs teams, which means a mid to late 20's pick, and that's perfectly fine. That's how we got players such as Tony Parker, Dejounte Murray, Derrick White, Kyle Anderson, Keldon Johnson, Corey Joseph, Blake Wesley, etc.

[DAF86]

I was forgetting George Hill.

[TD 21]

And who's saying that?

I literally quoted you.

[DAF86]

I literally quoted you.

Ok, now show me where did I say the Spurs won't be bad.

[ace3g]

[RC_Drunkford]

the only guy who can save this franchise from becoming the Seattle Supersonics

[Vince Carter's ankle]

the only guy who can save this franchise from becoming the Seattle Supersonics

He won't be at Spurs. You can start rooting for another team

[TD 21]

Ok, now show me where did I say the Spurs won't be bad.

With Poeltl, Richardson and the other vets we aren't going to be that bad

[DAF86]

Sorry, I just realized you wrote "THAT bad" on your post. I thought you had written "The Spurs aren't going to be bad".

The Spurs are going to be bad, no doubt about it. But, if they don't trade Poeltl and Richardson, there are a lot of chances of them not being bad enough as to get a bottom 3 record, which should be the goal. That's what I mean by "not THAT bad".

[ace3g]

[KingKev]

^ thanks fir posting that. Parker is a G

[cutewizard]

This is the player Victor should watch:

[cutewizard]

Nothing comes close to Chamberlain.........!

[exstatic]

you tell me what team would swoop in for poeltl right now and offer us a butt load of picks.

According to LJ, there is already an offer with picks. They're trying to work him into one of the big trades for unprotected pick(s).

[exstatic]

I was forgetting George Hill.

The mother pick. Win shares of each player while they played for the Spurs.

George Hill 14.9
Davis Bertans 9.3
Kawhi Leonard 56.3
Demar DeRozan 20.9
Jakob Poeltl 21.7
Keldon Johnson 9.3
Thad Young 1.0
Malaki Branham N/A
2025 CHI FRP

Total of 133.4 WS and counting for the Spurs from the 2008 #26 pick.

[rjv]

According to LJ, there is already an offer with picks. They're trying to work him into one of the big trades for unprotected pick(s).

if we can get some unprotected picks for poeltl, i'm all in.

[Thomas82]