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    Germany is already deindustrializing

    More and more companies are giving up their production in Germany or have restricted their business operations due to the sharp rise in energy prices. This is the result of a DIHK preliminary evaluation of the annual energy transition barometer among around 3,500 companies from all sectors and regions nationwide.



    According to this, a total of 16 percent of industrial companies feel compelled to react to the current energy situation by reducing production or at least partially giving up business areas. According to their own statements, almost a quarter of them have already done so, and another quarter are in the process of doing so. About half of these companies state that they are still planning corresponding steps.


    "These are alarming numbers," says DIHK President Peter Adrian. "They show how strongly permanently high energy prices are a burden on our location. Many companies have no choice but to close down or relocate production to other locations."


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    Germany's BASF (BASFn.DE), the world's largest chemical company, is cutting ammonia production further due to soaring natural gas prices, it said on Wednesday, with potential ramifications from farming to fizzy drinks.

    Germany's biggest ammonia maker SKW Piesteritz and number four Ineos also said they could not rule out production cuts as the country grapples with disruption to Russian gas supplies.

    Ammonia plays a key role in the manufacturing of fertiliser, engineering plastics and diesel exhaust fluid. Its production also yields high-purity carbon dioxide (CO2) as a byproduct, which is needed by the meat and fizzy drinks industries.

    "We are reducing production at facilities that require large volumes of natural gas, such as ammonia plants," BASF Chief Executive said in a media call after the release of quarterly results, confirming an earlier Reuters report.
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    Shale Profits Finally Blossoming After Decade of Steep Losses
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    Shale Profits Finally Blossoming After Decade of Steep Losses
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    French nuclear power ting the bed

    France has been delivering just a fraction of its energy production potential in recent months, and overnight the situation got worse when French power producer EDF announced another three power plants would curtail output because of rising temperatures. Rivers have become too hot in the latest heatwave to be used to cool the reactors.


    The majority of France’s 56 nuclear reactors are currently throttled down or taken offline due to a combination of scheduled maintenance, erosion damage (worryingly, mostly at the newer plants of the ageing fleet) and cooling water shortages due to recurring heatwaves and droughts.
    The problems with nuclear have caused wholesale electricity prices – both spot and forward contracts – to soar in France because it has become a net importer rather than exporter. Northern Italy, another grid heavily dependent on French nuclear supplies, has also suffered badly, and has spilled over into other markets.
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    “We could be facing a period of 10-20 years when France becomes structurally unable to produce its own electricity in full, and has to rely on imports from neighbouring countries, reversing the pattern of the past 30 years and straining the whole European power markets,” he writes.

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    Rivers have become too hot in the latest heatwave to be used to cool the reactors

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    That is an incredibly stupid statement.

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    That is an incredibly stupid statement.
    How so? Is France ting us? Engineering problems assume certain temperature tolerances, English power generation has had some recent temperature related problems too.

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    How so? Is France ting us? Engineering problems assume certain temperature tolerances, English power generation has had some recent temperature related problems too.
    Its really pretty simple math. Nuclear power plants use heat exchangers between the water that cools the rods and the water used to cool that water. These heat exchangers are sized based upon the difference in temperature between the two (called the delta t ) and the flow. Everything is always engineered with a safety factor and in something as critical as this would be at least 50%. The flow is constant if the system is in operation. Water coming back from the rods is typically 600F while cooling water in the summer from a river would be what 80F? Let's be overly aggressive and say the heat wave raised the cooling water temperature to 100F. Thats. Delta change from 520F to 500F. Thats an increase of only 3.3% which would be well within any safety factor calculations.

    The sentence was written specifically to insinuate global warming was making the nuke plants inoperable

    Later (way in the bottom of the article) in the srticle it contradicted the original statement and said water SHORTAGES were keeping some plants from operating. Thats a whole different issue with many competing factors.

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    Its really pretty simple math. Nuclear power plants use heat exchangers between the water that cools the rods and the water used to cool that water. These heat exchangers are sized based upon the difference in temperature between the two (called the delta t ) and the flow. Everything is always engineered with a safety factor and in something as critical as this would be at least 50%. The flow is constant if the system is in operation. Water coming back from the rods is typically 600F while cooling water in the summer from a river would be what 80F? Let's be overly aggressive and say the heat wave raised the cooling water temperature to 100F. Thats. Delta change from 520F to 500F. Thats an increase of only 3.3% which would be well within any safety factor calculations.

    The sentence was written specifically to insinuate global warming was making the nuke plants inoperable

    Later (way in the bottom of the article) in the srticle it contradicted the original statement and said water SHORTAGES were keeping some plants from operating. Thats a whole different issue with many competing factors.
    Perhaps you're right about the temperature of river water wrt nuclear power generation, what you're saying sounds reasonable. But it's hard to see how you can definitively rule out climate change as related to extreme temperatures and draught, and hence to the water shortage impacting French nuclear power, unless you're biased against the possibility.

    Whatever one may think about particular weather events, on our current trajectory the earth will be hotter by the end of the century than it has been at any time in the last ~2.5 million years. By probability, it stands to reason we'll see a lot of extreme/unusual weather between now and then.

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    It’s going to be interesting to see what happens to Germany/France/Italy this coming winter. If the War continues and they keep up the embargo on Russian Oil and Gas I don’t think their economy will be able to sustain itself and as they go so does most of Europe.

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    It’s going to be interesting to see what happens to Germany/France/Italy this coming winter. If the War continues and they keep up the embargo on Russian Oil and Gas I don’t think their economy will be able to sustain itself and as they go so does most of Europe.
    will be challenging, for sure


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    But boats run ok in them

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    But boats run ok in them
    not so for the Rhine and the Po, which European rivers did you have in mind?

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/05/ital...-po-river.html

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/12/econo...hnk/index.html

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