Judgment Day: Manu or Parker, WHO YA GOT?

[spurraider21]

i voted for Manu because i feel his impact on the offense was more consistent. even old man manu would come off the bench, and then for the next 5-6 minutes seemingly every bucket would be him scoring, him getting the assist, or him getting the hockey assist because he generated the initial breakdown of the defense. his fingerprints seemed to be on every point we scored when he was in the game

...but closer than people think. the HOTS version Parker, or MVParker, was something else to watch. unparalleled stamina. watching him run that damn loop play every time down the court, constantly in full speed, having those amazing one man fastbreaks, over and over again, i'd get exhausted just watching. just as incredible seeing that in person. remember being at this game in particular, it came during parker's peak when he would regularly outplay CP3 in their head to head matchups

[slick'81]

i voted for Manu because i feel his impact on the offense was more consistent. even old man manu would come off the bench, and then for the next 5-6 minutes seemingly every bucket would be him scoring, him getting the assist, or him getting the hockey assist because he generated the initial breakdown of the defense. his fingerprints seemed to be on every point we scored when he was in the game

...but closer than people think. the HOTS version Parker, or MVParker, was something else to watch. unparalleled stamina. watching him run that damn loop play every time down the court, constantly in full speed, having those amazing one man fastbreaks, over and over again, i'd get exhausted just watching. just as incredible seeing that in person. remember being at this game in particular, it came during parker's peak when he would regularly outplay CP3 in their head to head matchups

constantly probing the paint and relentlessly attacking the rim. Not to mention a one man fast break. I always remember him dismantling gary payton

[jjspur]

I was at that game in the stands behing that basket. It's hard to describe the rush I got when Manu made that move through what seemed like the whole Miami team. I knew right then that the game was OVER. Manu wasn't going to let the Spurs lose.

It's a character trait in great atheletes known as "heart." It's also why Pop put the ball in Manu's hands at the end of close games as our "closer". His skill set became sharper when the game was on the line. HEART!

Can I have an Amen !

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

2007 called and wants its thread back.

Who ya got Ed?

[rascal]

PG play is more important to the team than 6th man.

[Vince Carter's ankle]

PG play is more important to the team than 6th man.

How did you manage the registration?

[lefty]

We all know Diaw is the GOAT French player so this thread is pointless tbh

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

We all know Diaw is the GOAT French player so this thread is pointless tbh

confirmed Manustan -- thanks for voting

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Who ya got Ed?

Tough. To me you don’t really have one without the other. I don’t think I appreciated how good Tony was until looking back and see how much he added to the team. He was a top 3 point guard in his prime years.

That said, if it’s got to be one or the other, I probably have to go with Manu.

[mookie2001]

PG is a more important position. Anyone can go out there and dive face first into the ground and throw turnovers all over the court. But taking care of the ball seems to be more vital.












Btw OP is a little kid from 2005 who lives in Inez and hunts Crofl

[diego]

Tony has 6 playoff runs with 300+ FGA. His best run 12-13 with 432 points on 365 FGA, 68 rebounds 146 AST

Manu has one playoff run with 250+ FGA. His best run 04-05 with 479 points on 286 FGA, 133 Reb 97 ast

On top of that Manu has several more iconic moments, on both ends of the floor

Still tp deserves praise for how much he improved between 2005-2010, 2010s parker is a great great player

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

PG is a more important position. Anyone can go out there and dive face first into the ground and throw turnovers all over the court. But taking care of the ball seems to be more vital.












Btw OP is a little kid from 2005 who lives in Inez and hunts Crofl

nah nah nah that's ignorant

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

I know Tony isn’t the easiest to like but in the NBA his numbers are better than Manu by a ton. His game wasn’t the flashiest, he could be a surly, and the Berry sexting allegations definitely are a serious black eye but Parker was the better NBA player. The numbers, amount of games played, accolades prove this.

not the better man or fan favorite, but undoubtedly the better NBA career between Manu and himself

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

timvp what does Kori Ellis think?

[DAF86]

I know Tony isn’t the easiest to like but in the NBA his numbers are better than Manu by a ton. His game wasn’t the flashiest, he could be a surly, and the Berry sexting allegations definitely are a serious black eye but Parker was the better NBA player. The numbers, amount of games played, accolades prove this.

not the better man or fan favorite, but undoubtedly the better NBA career between Manu and himself

Having the better numbers doesn't equal being the better player. The only reason Tony got the better numbers is senority. TP got to the Spurs earlier than Manu, that's why he got to be a starter all his career while Manu started from the bench, because Pop wanted to stagger their two ball playmakers as much as possible.

Same reason why Westbrook was a starter and got better numbers than Harden while in OKC, despite Harden being clearly the much better player.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

T Park you gonna come in here and stan for your boy or whottt?

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

Having the better numbers doesn't equal being the better player. The only reason Tony got the better numbers is senority. TP got to the Spurs earlier than Manu, that's why he got to be a starter all his career while Manu started from the bench, because Pop wanted to stagger their two ball playmakers as much as possible.

Same reason why Westbrook was a starter and got better numbers than Harden while in OKC, despite Harden being clearly the much better player.

and yet ... you didn't vote

i guess you're still on the fence then

[DAF86]

and yet ... you didn't vote

i guess you're still on the fence then

Manu is better but both are criminally underated by the regular NBA fan. And what's worse, even some Spurs fans.

[Budkin]

Manu and it isn't close. Come on, man.

[diego]

This is a little masochistic but this thread made me remember the posts after the 13 finals, where parker fans especially raged at Manu for his poor performance, i remember saying we'll see parker when he's at Manus age.. Manu was a month away from 36 that series, his line for that series was:

11.6pts 2.1 Reb 4.3 ast .7 stl .560ts 101/112 o/drtg 6.7 gmSc 1.36 ast/to

Well it just so happens Tony's last playoff appearance came at exactly the same age, his line for that series was:

6.6 pts .8reb 1.2 ast .4 stl .412 TS 80/116 o/drtg 2.9 gmsc .96 ast/to

[KingKev]

This is a little masochistic but this thread made me remember the posts after the 13 finals, where parker fans especially raged at Manu for his poor performance, i remember saying we'll see parker when he's at Manus age.. Manu was a month away from 36 that series, his line for that series was:

11.6pts 2.1 Reb 4.3 ast .7 stl .560ts 101/112 o/drtg 6.7 gmSc 1.36 ast/to

Well it just so happens Tony's last playoff appearance came at exactly the same age, his line for that series was:

6.6 pts .8reb 1.2 ast .4 stl .412 TS 80/116 o/drtg 2.9 gmsc .96 ast/to

Lol your name is Diego. We already know who you are voting for.

[mookie2001]

Crofl

[Neo.]

manu without question

[T Park]

T Park you gonna come in here and stan for your boy or whottt?

Lol. I honestly cant choose between the two. Ginobili’s ultimate peak i dont think we’ll ever know cause of the injuries and role. Parker had a of a peak, he was the MVP of the finals in 13 until he yanked his hamstring and it fell apart the last two games.

One was great cause the other was great and vice versa. It was the rare moment IMO that both players were literal all time greats, because the other was an all time great.

[DAF86]

I know Tony isn’t the easiest to like but in the NBA his numbers are better than Manu by a ton. His game wasn’t the flashiest, he could be a surly, and the Berry sexting allegations definitely are a serious black eye but Parker was the better NBA player. The numbers, amount of games played, accolades prove this.

not the better man or fan favorite, but undoubtedly the better NBA career between Manu and himself

But we aren't arguing who the had the better numbers, we are arguing who was the better player.

Also, what numbers, raw stats? Sure, Tony had more. Advanced impact stats? Manu clearly better.