Official 2022 NBA Free Agency Thread

[rjv]

Anyone have the years on those picks and swaps? If they’re near term, the fact that they’re unprotected won’t mean spit. Cleveland is clearly a team on the rise, jumping from 22 wins to 44. They have two high end front court players aged 21 and 24, Garland, and now Spider. Mobley might be on an All NBA track. They could make some noise this year, and be contenders the year after.

2025, 2027 and 2029 with the option to swap in 26 and 28.

[John B]

Spurs need to play all rookies. At least I get to see the rookies either they play good and Win or Lose going against experienced teams. I’d be pretty disappointed if they play Poeltl, McD for what?

[exstatic]

Spurs need to play all rookies. At least I get to see the rookies either they play good and Win or Lose going against experienced teams. I’d be pretty disappointed if they play Poeltl, McD for what?

If Poeltl is here, he’s going to start. He’s not in the way of any draft picks, and he needs to be showcased.

[The Truth #6]

We just need to be in the bottom 4 if I remember the odds correctly. But that might take some motivated coaching to get there. Luckily our schedule is hard at the end.

[TD 21]

I still see the Cavaliers as most likely in the 6-9 range (Raptors, Hawks, Bulls) in the interim, but like the Hawks, they obviously now have a higher ceiling than before.

Still, I don't see them ultimately becoming championship contenders, probably more so a second tier team (Timberwolves East).

If Poeltl is here, he’s going to start. He’s not in the way of any draft picks, and he needs to be showcased.

Poeltl is a known commodity, entering his prime, not coming off of a significant (or any) injury. There's no reason to think his value changes between now and the trade deadline.

And before you say some contender or pseudo one could get desperate due to injury or whatever, sure, but weigh that against the risk of him suffering a significant injury.

[The Truth #6]

Hit the road Jak? Politely and with respect, of course.

[KingKev]

Money talks, especially to a man coming off a serious injury. It’s that damn simple. You know who else talk too much? MUPPPETS… they look like this

Sesame Street Ass

He has 40mm 3 yrs on the table with Cleveland and won’t sign it… He is also an RFA. Put this together Spurstalk. That clown in the reddit thread is dumber than most here and that says alot.

1) The protracted negotiations have probably done irreparable damage to the relationship, making it more so about principle at this point.

2) He's probably not pleased with the greatly reduced role he'd be slated to play.

3) He'd probably prefer to "bet on" himself with a shorter contract and on a team where he'd have a more central role.

The idea would be to take (slightly) less short term to set himself up to make more long term.

You have your clown shoes on right now muppet?

Good thing you weren't his agent. 4yrs/72mm.

[TD 21]

You have your clown shoes on right now muppet?

Good thing you weren't his agent. 4yrs/72mm.

At the lack of basic reading comprehension. I was right. The third comment was in reference to the Cavaliers' supposed offer. Of course he was going to take 4/$72M though.

Try harder.

[KingKev]

At the lack of basic reading comprehension. I was right. The third comment was in reference to the Cavaliers' supposed offer. Of course he was going to take 4/$72M though.

Try harder.

Nah you were just wrong… you are the real life Yellow M&M rolling on the floor laughing… clown shoes and all. You should update your avatar:

[TD 21]

Nah you were just wrong… you are the real life Yellow M&M rolling on the floor laughing… clown shoes and all. You should update your avatar:

At being this dense and determined to play got cha.

I was playing devil's advocate, even said it was unlikely just not the impossibility you were making it seem.

Slightly less meant something like a few million less per year for 2 or 2+1, not some odd $30M less, genius.

In the end, he leaves the Cavaliers and gets the central role he was doubtlessly seeking, like I said.

[KingKev]

Jazz still have some vets they can part out also. They will be back to relevancy in no time.

Not comparing DDR/LMA to Spida/Gobert but damn if PATFO had half a brain 4 years ago maybe we would be relevant soon also.

[K...]

spurs thinking about sexton...spurstalk says no veterans we don't want to be a treadmill team, utah otoh takes sexton and it's a total tank move? Isn't sexton vs spider a wash?

[KingKev]

spurs thinking about sexton...spurstalk says no veterans we don't want to be a treadmill team, utah otoh takes sexton and it's a total tank move? Isn't sexton vs spider a wash?

huh? Doubt Spurs were ever considering Sexton. That reddit thread claiming interest was posted by a nobody.

Sexton is hardly a vet and not established. Donovan is an AS.

[Dverde]

Not a huge Donovan Mitc fan, but I think this move should bump them above Atlanta which should get The Spurs a better draft pick. East is going to be so compe ive.

[KingKev]

Not a huge Donovan Mitc fan, but I think this move should bump them above Atlanta which should get The Spurs a better draft pick. East is going to be so compe ive.

We don’t have anything from Atlanta for 4 drafts: 2026 we have a pick swap. This isn’t really relevant.

[CGD]

Pretty amazing offseason by Ainge tbh.

Let’s see what we does with all the capital. The tearing down is the “easy” part.

The Fultz-Tatum swap is a case in point. At the time so many people were lauding Angie for getting the extra pick AND the guy they wanted all along in Tatum. But all that scuttlebut just turned into drafting Romeo Langford a year later at 14. Super meh. Might as well just draft Tatum at 1.

[Dex]

jazz still getting some value in sexton, markannen and ogbaji. they definitely made off well in this trade. their roster is still better than the spurs roster.

But they can already field a better team and have more valuable picks than okc by far lol.

They also had two All-Star/All-NBA caliber players to trade, whereas all we had was Dejounte Murray and a bunch of spare parts.

[talkspurs]

Wanted to see who would do this trade.
Spurs MCbuckets
LA send Westbrook 27 unprotected and 28 swap.

La only is giving up 1 pick and the swap but they still get to keep their 29 pick. They also get a 3 pt shooter they want and should get them under lux tax.

Spurs get another pick in 27 plus another shot at the top picks (would get best of LA bos and theirs) They also get rid of buckets.

[Ariel]

Danny Ainge doing Danny Ainge things. Short to mid term those picks look like nothing special, but long term (4+ years down the road) no one knows, and out of all those picks a couple are bound to pay off big. Plus they got a whole lot of players with trade value that they'll keep flipping and stockpiling assets. A lot like OKC, but I bet he'll use his picks more wisely than Presti did (great negotiating skills but overrated as a talent evaluator). Utah did the smart thing not wasting time, if the Spurs had pulled something like this people over here would have gone ballistic.

[Ariel]

I still see the Cavaliers as most likely in the 6-9 range (Raptors, Hawks, Bulls) in the interim, but like the Hawks, they obviously now have a higher ceiling than before.

Still, I don't see them ultimately becoming championship contenders, probably more so a second tier team (Timberwolves East).

Garland (22), Mitc (25), Mobley (21), Jarret Allen (24), Okoro (21), plus Lavert & Kevin Love... that's a core they can count on long term (maybe they'll need to trade someone when Mobley's extension kicks in, a few years down the road). If they get a couple 3&D guys to go along they should be far ahead the Bulls & Hawks IMO, maybe Toronto as well, I don't see why they can't contend in a couple of years. I like what they've done.

[exstatic]

We just need to be in the bottom 4 if I remember the odds correctly. But that might take some motivated coaching to get there. Luckily our schedule is hard at the end.

Finishing in the bottom 4 only gives you slightly better than a coin flip at STAYING in the bottom 4.

[Ariel]

Finishing in the bottom 4 only gives you slightly better than a coin flip at STAYING in the bottom 4.

True, but it also gives you an edge even if you fall outside of the lottery, since the worst record can pick no lower than 5, while the 5th record can pick as low as 9. That's usually a pretty big difference, on top of the obvious lottery chances. Point being, piling up meaningless wins is not innocuous.

[exstatic]

True, but it also gives you an edge even if you fall outside of the lottery, since the worst record can pick no lower than 5, while the 5th record can pick as low as 9. That's usually a pretty big difference, on top of the obvious lottery chances. Point being, piling up meaningless wins is not innocuous.

You know what has to happen for #5 to pick at 9? The top 4 all have to drop out, making finishing there worthless that year. 4 teams that didn’t hard tank would make the top 4.

[FutureMan]

Utah is killing it IMO. People are talking about them tanking, which they can certainly choose to do with another trade or two, but at this point they are still not terrible and clearly better than at least the Spurs, OKC, IND, DET, HOU, WASH, & two of POR/SAC/ORL

With all those unprotected picks they might as well play it out.

[tbdog]

The Utah Jazz turned

Rudy Gobert Donovan Mitc

Into

7 1sts

2 pick swaps

Collin Sexton

Lauri Markkanen

Ochai Agbaji

Walker Kessler

Jarred Vanderbilt

Malik Beasley

Leandro Bolmaro

Stanley Johnson

Talen Horton-Tucker