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    Just imagine...imagine that trump finally gets indicted for one or many of his crimes...

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    on the jury is....



    DUCKS...


    hole country!
    That Trash was President and

    the Capitalist oligarchy, Repugs, SCOTUS6 are ING FASCISTS

    means USA is hole country, with or w/o ducks.

    America is ed and un able.

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    Biden has millions of pages

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    5 Times the FBI Didn't Raid Presidents, Aides Over 'Classified' Do ent Disputes



    Former President Donald Trump wasn't exaggerating when he said that "nothing like this has ever happened to a President of the United States before" after the FBI's unprecedented raid of his personal residence last month – especially considering he's far from the first president or White House official to bring home "classified do ents."

    FBI agents in early August raided Trump's Florida Mar-a-Lago residence, seizing a trove of do ents that the National Archives and Records Administration, or NARA, claims should have been handed over at the end of Trump's term under the conditions set by the 1978 Presidential Records Act.

    That act was signed into law by former President Jimmy Carter and applies to records received or created after Jan. 20, 1981, according to the NARA. The act strengthened previous legislation passed by Congress in 1974, which was geared toward preventing former President Richard Nixon from destroying tapes linked to the Watergate scandal. Nixon eventually turned over 42 million pages of do ents as a result of the legislation, which culminated with the passing of the Presidential Records Act.

    Before that, presidents were free to take their records home if they so desired. Now, the records are considered the property of the U.S. government, not the president. While the act outlines ways to preserve do ents – including call logs, emails, and handwritten notes – it lacks a criminal penalty for those who remove or destroy records.

    But while the actual act may lack a formal remedy, legal experts say noncompliance could trigger other criminal laws because the records are deemed government property.

    Most presidents and members of their administration willingly hand over records once they move out of the White House – Trump even turned over at least 15 boxes of do ents before agents raided his home.

    But there have been several instances – that didn't trigger FBI investigations or raids – in which do ents seemingly wound up in the wrong place or were mishandled, under the language of the law.

    1. Former Reagan administration officials

    According to a PolitiFact Check, former President Ronald Reagan was the first president subjected to the Presidential Records Act's new record-keeping rules, and compliance wasn't smooth sailing.

    In 1988, several members of Reagan's administration faced criminal charges over the destruction of do ents that purportedly violated the Presidential Records Act.

    An investigation found that senior administration officials provided financial help to Nicaraguan Contra rebels when such support was prohibited and that officials facilitated the sale of U.S. arms to Iran to finance the aid.

    John Poindexter, a national security adviser for Reagan, and U.S. Marine Corps Lt. Col. Oliver North were charged with removing and destroying do ents, among other crimes. Poindexter's conviction was reversed on appeal, and North's charges were ultimately dropped.

    2. Former Clinton administration national security adviser

    In 2005, Sandy Berger, a national security adviser to former President Bill Clinton, pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor, was fined more than $50,000, given 100 hours of community service and probation, and lost his security clearance for removing classified do ents and notes from the National Archives months before he was scheduled to testify to the commission investigating the 9/11 terror attacks.

    At first, Berger claimed he accidentally removed the do ents, some of which he stuffed inside of a pant leg before stashing them at a location outside of the Archives for later retrieval. But he later admitted he had done so deliberately. He was not working as a White House official when he removed the do ents.

    3. Former Obama administration secretary of state

    While former secretary of state Hillary Clinton maintains that her private email server housed "zero emails that were classified," in 2016, then-FBI director James Comey said that, of the 30,000 emails reviewed by the FBI, 110 emails and 52 email chains were determined to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received.

    Comey noted that 8 of those chains contained information that was "Top Secret" at the time it was sent; 36 chains contained "Secret" information at the time; and 8 contained "Confidential information," which is the lowest level of classification.

    While Comey issued a controversial public statement calling Clinton's handling of the highly sensitive information "extremely careless," he said the FBI "did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information." Clinton ultimately did not face any criminal charges and has routinely denied any of the emails contained classified information.

    4. Clinton's Presidential Library

    Former President Bill Clinton's presidential library in Little Rock, Arkansas, delayed the release of 33,000 records – including those pertaining to confidential advice given to or sought by the president, communications with then-first lady Hillary Clinton, and records about people considered for appointments to federal office – for more than a year after they were set to be made public.

    Certain records can be kept under wraps for up to 12 years after a president leaves office. The Clintons kept the records sealed far beyond that anniversary before permitting their release.

    It was largely believed that the delay was, at least in part, done to try to protect Hillary Clinton from any embarrassing or controversial disclosures in the lead-up to the 2016 presidential race, in which was set to be the Democratic Party's frontrunner and ultimately earned her party's nod before losing to Trump.

    5. Obama Foundation

    When former President Barack Obama moved out of the White House, he took a whopping 30 million pages of do ents from D.C. and moved them into a warehouse outside of Chicago, where, he said, he planned to digitize all the records before housing them in the Obama Presidential Center.

    This presidential library differed from others because it would be run by the Obama Foundation, a nonprofit established by the former president and former first lady Mic e Obama, instead of NARA.

    Obama's decision to move millions of do ents to Chicago recently drew the ire of Trump, who argued his predecessor was able to keep the do ents – "much of them classified" – without the FBI knocking on his door.

    "President Barack Hussein Obama kept 33 million pages of do ents, much of them classified. How many of them pertained to nuclear? Word is, lots!" Trump said in an Aug. 9 post on Truth Social.

    The National Archives responded to Trump with a statement that it assumed exclusive legal and physical custody of presidential records when Obama left office in 2017, in accordance with the Presidential Records Act.

    The group said it moved unclassified records to a NARA facility outside of Chicago where it exclusively maintains the do ents.

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    5 Times the FBI Didn't Raid Presidents, Aides Over 'Classified' Do ent Disputes



    Former President Donald Trump wasn't exaggerating when he said that "nothing like this has ever happened to a President of the United States before" after the FBI's unprecedented raid of his personal residence last month – especially considering he's far from the first president or White House official to bring home "classified do ents."

    FBI agents in early August raided Trump's Florida Mar-a-Lago residence, seizing a trove of do ents that the National Archives and Records Administration, or NARA, claims should have been handed over at the end of Trump's term under the conditions set by the 1978 Presidential Records Act.

    That act was signed into law by former President Jimmy Carter and applies to records received or created after Jan. 20, 1981, according to the NARA. The act strengthened previous legislation passed by Congress in 1974, which was geared toward preventing former President Richard Nixon from destroying tapes linked to the Watergate scandal. Nixon eventually turned over 42 million pages of do ents as a result of the legislation, which culminated with the passing of the Presidential Records Act.

    Before that, presidents were free to take their records home if they so desired. Now, the records are considered the property of the U.S. government, not the president. While the act outlines ways to preserve do ents – including call logs, emails, and handwritten notes – it lacks a criminal penalty for those who remove or destroy records.

    But while the actual act may lack a formal remedy, legal experts say noncompliance could trigger other criminal laws because the records are deemed government property.

    Most presidents and members of their administration willingly hand over records once they move out of the White House – Trump even turned over at least 15 boxes of do ents before agents raided his home.

    But there have been several instances – that didn't trigger FBI investigations or raids – in which do ents seemingly wound up in the wrong place or were mishandled, under the language of the law.

    1. Former Reagan administration officials

    According to a PolitiFact Check, former President Ronald Reagan was the first president subjected to the Presidential Records Act's new record-keeping rules, and compliance wasn't smooth sailing.

    In 1988, several members of Reagan's administration faced criminal charges over the destruction of do ents that purportedly violated the Presidential Records Act.

    An investigation found that senior administration officials provided financial help to Nicaraguan Contra rebels when such support was prohibited and that officials facilitated the sale of U.S. arms to Iran to finance the aid.

    John Poindexter, a national security adviser for Reagan, and U.S. Marine Corps Lt. Col. Oliver North were charged with removing and destroying do ents, among other crimes. Poindexter's conviction was reversed on appeal, and North's charges were ultimately dropped.

    2. Former Clinton administration national security adviser

    In 2005, Sandy Berger, a national security adviser to former President Bill Clinton, pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor, was fined more than $50,000, given 100 hours of community service and probation, and lost his security clearance for removing classified do ents and notes from the National Archives months before he was scheduled to testify to the commission investigating the 9/11 terror attacks.

    At first, Berger claimed he accidentally removed the do ents, some of which he stuffed inside of a pant leg before stashing them at a location outside of the Archives for later retrieval. But he later admitted he had done so deliberately. He was not working as a White House official when he removed the do ents.

    3. Former Obama administration secretary of state

    While former secretary of state Hillary Clinton maintains that her private email server housed "zero emails that were classified," in 2016, then-FBI director James Comey said that, of the 30,000 emails reviewed by the FBI, 110 emails and 52 email chains were determined to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received.

    Comey noted that 8 of those chains contained information that was "Top Secret" at the time it was sent; 36 chains contained "Secret" information at the time; and 8 contained "Confidential information," which is the lowest level of classification.

    While Comey issued a controversial public statement calling Clinton's handling of the highly sensitive information "extremely careless," he said the FBI "did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information." Clinton ultimately did not face any criminal charges and has routinely denied any of the emails contained classified information.

    4. Clinton's Presidential Library

    Former President Bill Clinton's presidential library in Little Rock, Arkansas, delayed the release of 33,000 records – including those pertaining to confidential advice given to or sought by the president, communications with then-first lady Hillary Clinton, and records about people considered for appointments to federal office – for more than a year after they were set to be made public.

    Certain records can be kept under wraps for up to 12 years after a president leaves office. The Clintons kept the records sealed far beyond that anniversary before permitting their release.

    It was largely believed that the delay was, at least in part, done to try to protect Hillary Clinton from any embarrassing or controversial disclosures in the lead-up to the 2016 presidential race, in which was set to be the Democratic Party's frontrunner and ultimately earned her party's nod before losing to Trump.

    5. Obama Foundation

    When former President Barack Obama moved out of the White House, he took a whopping 30 million pages of do ents from D.C. and moved them into a warehouse outside of Chicago, where, he said, he planned to digitize all the records before housing them in the Obama Presidential Center.

    This presidential library differed from others because it would be run by the Obama Foundation, a nonprofit established by the former president and former first lady Mic e Obama, instead of NARA.

    Obama's decision to move millions of do ents to Chicago recently drew the ire of Trump, who argued his predecessor was able to keep the do ents – "much of them classified" – without the FBI knocking on his door.

    "President Barack Hussein Obama kept 33 million pages of do ents, much of them classified. How many of them pertained to nuclear? Word is, lots!" Trump said in an Aug. 9 post on Truth Social.

    The National Archives responded to Trump with a statement that it assumed exclusive legal and physical custody of presidential records when Obama left office in 2017, in accordance with the Presidential Records Act.

    The group said it moved unclassified records to a NARA facility outside of Chicago where it exclusively maintains the do ents.

    Cope

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    So 1. Reagan admin faced criminal charges, 2. Burger pled guilty 3. But her email 4. Delayed release 5. The Archives stated everything was in order.

    Sounds like you answered your own question, ducks

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    Has his house ever got broke into ?
    Except by a political fbi
    Have you ever asked yourself why all of Trump’s former Ally’s now turning on him? The only ones who are sticking with him now are politicians with a personal agenda for themselves for his voters. Deep down they know he’s dirty. What would Bill Barr gain for all of the sudden saying Trump should had no way shape or form taken those do ents? There were some whistleblowers in that warrant that was blacked out. Im curious on who in Trump’s inner circle tipped the DOJ off that he still had all these do ents

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    lmao ducks meltdown is glorious itt

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    5 Times the FBI Didn't Raid Presidents, Aides Over 'Classified' Do ent Disputes



    Former President Donald Trump wasn't exaggerating when he said that "nothing like this has ever happened to a President of the United States before" after the FBI's unprecedented raid of his personal residence last month – especially considering he's far from the first president or White House official to bring home "classified do ents."

    FBI agents in early August raided Trump's Florida Mar-a-Lago residence, seizing a trove of do ents that the National Archives and Records Administration, or NARA, claims should have been handed over at the end of Trump's term under the conditions set by the 1978 Presidential Records Act.

    That act was signed into law by former President Jimmy Carter and applies to records received or created after Jan. 20, 1981, according to the NARA. The act strengthened previous legislation passed by Congress in 1974, which was geared toward preventing former President Richard Nixon from destroying tapes linked to the Watergate scandal. Nixon eventually turned over 42 million pages of do ents as a result of the legislation, which culminated with the passing of the Presidential Records Act.

    Before that, presidents were free to take their records home if they so desired. Now, the records are considered the property of the U.S. government, not the president. While the act outlines ways to preserve do ents – including call logs, emails, and handwritten notes – it lacks a criminal penalty for those who remove or destroy records.

    But while the actual act may lack a formal remedy, legal experts say noncompliance could trigger other criminal laws because the records are deemed government property.

    Most presidents and members of their administration willingly hand over records once they move out of the White House – Trump even turned over at least 15 boxes of do ents before agents raided his home.

    But there have been several instances – that didn't trigger FBI investigations or raids – in which do ents seemingly wound up in the wrong place or were mishandled, under the language of the law.

    1. Former Reagan administration officials

    According to a PolitiFact Check, former President Ronald Reagan was the first president subjected to the Presidential Records Act's new record-keeping rules, and compliance wasn't smooth sailing.

    In 1988, several members of Reagan's administration faced criminal charges over the destruction of do ents that purportedly violated the Presidential Records Act.

    An investigation found that senior administration officials provided financial help to Nicaraguan Contra rebels when such support was prohibited and that officials facilitated the sale of U.S. arms to Iran to finance the aid.

    John Poindexter, a national security adviser for Reagan, and U.S. Marine Corps Lt. Col. Oliver North were charged with removing and destroying do ents, among other crimes. Poindexter's conviction was reversed on appeal, and North's charges were ultimately dropped.

    2. Former Clinton administration national security adviser

    In 2005, Sandy Berger, a national security adviser to former President Bill Clinton, pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor, was fined more than $50,000, given 100 hours of community service and probation, and lost his security clearance for removing classified do ents and notes from the National Archives months before he was scheduled to testify to the commission investigating the 9/11 terror attacks.

    At first, Berger claimed he accidentally removed the do ents, some of which he stuffed inside of a pant leg before stashing them at a location outside of the Archives for later retrieval. But he later admitted he had done so deliberately. He was not working as a White House official when he removed the do ents.

    3. Former Obama administration secretary of state

    While former secretary of state Hillary Clinton maintains that her private email server housed "zero emails that were classified," in 2016, then-FBI director James Comey said that, of the 30,000 emails reviewed by the FBI, 110 emails and 52 email chains were determined to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received.

    Comey noted that 8 of those chains contained information that was "Top Secret" at the time it was sent; 36 chains contained "Secret" information at the time; and 8 contained "Confidential information," which is the lowest level of classification.

    While Comey issued a controversial public statement calling Clinton's handling of the highly sensitive information "extremely careless," he said the FBI "did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information." Clinton ultimately did not face any criminal charges and has routinely denied any of the emails contained classified information.

    4. Clinton's Presidential Library

    Former President Bill Clinton's presidential library in Little Rock, Arkansas, delayed the release of 33,000 records – including those pertaining to confidential advice given to or sought by the president, communications with then-first lady Hillary Clinton, and records about people considered for appointments to federal office – for more than a year after they were set to be made public.

    Certain records can be kept under wraps for up to 12 years after a president leaves office. The Clintons kept the records sealed far beyond that anniversary before permitting their release.

    It was largely believed that the delay was, at least in part, done to try to protect Hillary Clinton from any embarrassing or controversial disclosures in the lead-up to the 2016 presidential race, in which was set to be the Democratic Party's frontrunner and ultimately earned her party's nod before losing to Trump.

    5. Obama Foundation

    When former President Barack Obama moved out of the White House, he took a whopping 30 million pages of do ents from D.C. and moved them into a warehouse outside of Chicago, where, he said, he planned to digitize all the records before housing them in the Obama Presidential Center.

    This presidential library differed from others because it would be run by the Obama Foundation, a nonprofit established by the former president and former first lady Mic e Obama, instead of NARA.

    Obama's decision to move millions of do ents to Chicago recently drew the ire of Trump, who argued his predecessor was able to keep the do ents – "much of them classified" – without the FBI knocking on his door.

    "President Barack Hussein Obama kept 33 million pages of do ents, much of them classified. How many of them pertained to nuclear? Word is, lots!" Trump said in an Aug. 9 post on Truth Social.

    The National Archives responded to Trump with a statement that it assumed exclusive legal and physical custody of presidential records when Obama left office in 2017, in accordance with the Presidential Records Act.

    The group said it moved unclassified records to a NARA facility outside of Chicago where it exclusively maintains the do ents.
    Testify!

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    Lol qris

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    BREAKING: Biden admin appeals judge's order of special master for seized Mar-a-Lago docs

    Why are they scared?

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    BREAKING: Biden admin appeals judge's order of special master for seized Mar-a-Lago docs

    Why are they scared?
    Corrupt re s overturing the cons ution.

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    BREAKING: Biden admin appeals judge's order of special master for seized Mar-a-Lago docs

    Why are they scared?
    Did you read what the actual appeal was about?

    No.

    Qhris

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    Did you read what the actual appeal was about?

    No.

    Qhris

    I’m not sure they are reading at all into the details of any of this

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    BREAKING: Biden admin appeals judge's order of special master for seized Mar-a-Lago docs

    Why are they scared?
    You first.

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    BREAKING: Biden admin appeals judge's order of special master for seized Mar-a-Lago docs

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    LMAO Of course you align with Cenk... You probably agree that raping animals should be normalized like Cenk does you sick s.
    LMAO you think the sky is blue? JUST LIKE CENK

    you must also agree that raping animals should be normalized

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    I’m not sure they are reading at all into the details of any of this
    He struggled raising his attention span from 144 characters to 280. You think he is gonna read an article?

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    comments say this could cause months of delay,

    will DOJ demand it to expedited, due to the nuclear secrets and empty folders?

    why empty? misplaced or fenced by Trash?

    aren't there records of transmitting this info from appropriate storage to the WH?

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    your next Republican-appointed SCOTUS justice.


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    Crooked Donald

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    BREAKING: Biden admin appeals judge's order of special master for seized Mar-a-Lago docs

    Why are they scared?



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    Looks like it's up to Trump

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