Probably got tired of his slow-ass behind the back dribble-drive he spammed like a little kid on the controller. His at ude is garbage but maybe that's improving.
Now that we are in the lottery, we can't miss on our picks. It just delays playoff appearance every year on every miss. Picks like primo is dangerous. I'm happy the spurs got what they wanted but you shouldn't take risks like that. Anyway, Luka nba career is probably over.
i look forward to your career as a scout, surely you know the tricks to get guys who are sure things. For real though the draft has changed, kids are mostly raw. There's a number of picks to churn through to find a star times a number of years to develop them, minus the odds they bail for bigger clubs, it's ing hard to tank!!!!!!
He has good ball handling skills, and when he puts in the effort is an above average defender. He can’t shoot the long ball ,limiting his floor time, and his effort is sporadic, at best.
Unless we have eyes on Celtics camp report I'm not concluding Boston brain trust is 100% on summarizing Luka. If he does still suck / lack effort, so be it. But sounds like he's gonna be on their GLeague team so who knows. FFS he's only 22.
But these clowns handing the Warriors the chip after the 3-2 lead have me questioning them 100. Don't bring the vomit about Warriors were just so good.
The strategy to keep playing Kobme Tatum ball after Team Ball got the ahead was barf inducing. Now we know perhaps why Ime's head was fully up his ass to lead the choke.
Okay, a bit blunt there. My point still stands, you can't miss on your picks of your in the lottery.
The transition of the top players going pro so much sooner and often having little or no college experience makes development way tougher. Players drafted 19th are generally there for a reason and rarely turn into something amazing.
Lottery picks have failed on a regular basis as well with projections having to take place.
Samanic was a miss. The Spurs picked a much better player at 30. Sometimes that happens.
There are VERY few sure things no matter where you draft. I hope the years the Spurs hit bottom work out well like the last two times. They will draft in the top five and hopefully draw one or two for 2023.
Every now and then I would open this thread to wander how Luka is doing. I really rooted for this guy and Lonnie. I think had they played to their potentials, the Spurs would look very different right now. I still think Lonnie would make it because he works hard and it just a matter of time. I think he is too unselfish and defers too much, not wanting to make bad plays, ironically playing bad consequently. But with Lakers I think he could have more freedom to showcase his athleticism for that nightly ESPN highlight reels.
Luka, not so much. Spurs would’ve been the perfect place to nurture and allow him to develop, especially an international player who Spurs have been very successful in the pass. Much has been discussed what went wrong. Hopefully the Spurs have learned their lesson.
Lonnie is a good guy by all accounts. And he has shown flashes of offensive brilliance. But he is so inconsistent on offense that it can't balance out his atrocious defense. He has never shown flashes on that side of the ball. Fact is, the much malighned Forbes is a better NBA player. At least Forbes, whose D is statistically BETTER than Lonnie's, is a fairly consistent offensive player. Anyway, I wish the best for Lonnie as he seems like a nice man, just without a motor.
Speaking of "no motor". Luka is the poster boy for it. I disagree with many on here. I think it was smart to make the gamble on someone iwth his size and physical gifts. You have to take risks now and again, and frankly our front office is usually too risk averse. But gambles are called gambles because they usually don't pay out. And Luka didn't. Not sure what his issue is. He should be hungry, but he isn't. And his NBA career looks like it is over. And it is nobody's fault but his own.
Keldon was 29. So were White, DJ, And CoJo.
Yes - that's correct. SAS has made some pretty good picks at 29 over the last few years. They also turned two of those picks into three or four additional #1s. That'll work.
the spurs are good at picking 29 isnt so interesting when you consider that every draft is different and whether you accept that the spurs had keldon an loonie high up there boards and they fell (we'll hear the same about branahm i think too soon)
28 hasn’t been bad,either. TP9, Splitter, Mahinmi, Beno.
Arguably the 3rd best pick in franchise history was GHill at #26 in 2008. That pick yielded Kawhi, Bertans, Derozan, Jak, Keldon, Malaki, plus upcoming 2025 FRP and SRP from Chicago, and whatever we pull for Jak this year. Possibly Keldon in the future,too. The number of WS the Spurs got from that pick is adtounding. I had it calculated once, but can’t find the file just now.
Have the skills and potential, doesn't have will.
Would you consider the 1999 Manu’s pick at 57th pick less than 2008? I don’t know about that year’s 29th pick that got traded to Dallas, but I’d take Manu’s pick as one of the best picks ever. DRob and Timmy were obvious #1 overall, but getting Manu at 57th was a bball god sent, even though I think it was a combination of great luck. For argument sake I’d put Timmy at 1997 #1, Drob at 1987 #2, Manu at 1999 at #3 then TP at 2001 #4, then 2008 GH that got Kawhi, et al at #5. Because TP and Manu’s selections got the Spurs 4 rings is my rational. While giving Kawhi the 2014 Finals MVP while deserving, still got over blown, but that’s for another thread.
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Manu 106.4 WS
GHill 14.9 WS in SA
Bertans 9.3 WS in SA
Kawhi 56.3 WS in SA
DeRozan 20.9 WS in SA
Jakob 28.9 WS in SA
Keldon 9.3 WS
Thad 1.0 WS in SA
TBD Malaki, 2025 CHI FRP & SRP, Return from Jak.
Total, so far: 140.6 WS
In the movie Moneyball, Pete explains to Billy that you’re not buying players, you’re buying wins. SA bought a ton of wins with that one pick in 2008.
Nice analogy. But if you’re not careful that pick would also be better than DRob and even Timmy.
The pick payoff in wins could be better, but it’s always better to get it with one player. I was Surprised at David’s total until I remembered that as dominant as he was, he started at 24, and ended comparatively early due to injuries.
Danny Green was part of the Leonard trade and shouldn't be discounted. Dude had 33 win-shares with the Spurs. The Spurs got Braham with Thad and the Detroit pick, which not only cost them some cap space but also their 2015 first. While the real trade was fine as Miluntinov was never going to be a Spur, they 100-percent spent an additional first in this deal. I'd estimate the Spurs had to pump in another two or three firsts on top of the 2008 pick to get this haul. Likely still worth it, as Leonard was just that good of a pick. But after that trade things get murky, and we'll see if the hauls for Murray or White might have something to say about it.
I believe Samanic would have more time and opportunity to develop this year since it's a non compe ive season for us. That doesn't change the fact that he would need to move his ass and show motivation, but I'm convinced it would be a waste of talent if he doesn't make his way in the league. The guy has talent.
Danny Green was a freebie, costing us nothing on the front end after being cast off by Cleveland. Consider him another value acquisition, and salary ballast. As you said, Mulitinov was never coming. Casting that as an included FRP is specious. Consider it a wasted FRP FRP, like Lonnie or Sammich. His rights had zero value, and I’m not sure why they were even included, and doubt the deal fails without them.
It's sad cause if Luka had panned out we would be such a better team and might not even be tanking tbh...
I think he still might be something in this league...he's just not one of those wait your turn or earn your way players...and if you aren't one of those type of players then you won't make it under pop
A monster!
It cracks me up that this dude posts nothing but his G League highlights on IG. Like no , you're in your 4th year, you should be dominating those scrubs
People still talking about this loser.
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