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    I would love to see what the Spurs saw when they reached for him. Was it his quickness or burst of speed?
    Okay fine. Humor us. What should the pick have been. I would have said Moody but he hasn’t out performed. Albeit that’s yet to be seen based on where he’s playing. Sengun? He’s doing okay but he’s not a modern big so there’s a real argument that his long term viability isn’t going to flesh out. Duarte looked good last season and isn’t looking so hot now and he’s only going to be as good as he is now. Much older, like what 4-5 years older.

    After that, what? Bones Hyland? Talk about a stretch. Trey Murphy is interesting but still would have been debatable at the draft.

    The primo is a stretch argument held so much more weight around the draft than it does now. Literally no one has panned out significantly better.

    So if you guys are going to make this argument then actually back it up instead of just verbalizing the claim.

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    He got his 30 seconds of fame…..

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    Murray looks like sh!t early in his career too. Primo has time to raise his game.

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    I get what the Spurs saw in Primo. A very young player with a polished game, who if he works on all his flaws could become complete in every facet of the game. That will take time though. Right now he's by far the worst player in the rotation. I just hope he can show something this season. We've really only seen the good stuff from him in preseason games and the G-League.

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    Primo cannot be compared to Tony at 19. Tony at 19 played with Timmy and DRob. That was like teaching a kid to drive with a Tesla, instead of your daddy’s old chevy.

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    Primo cannot be compared to Tony at 19. Tony at 19 played with Timmy and DRob. That was like teaching a kid to drive with a Tesla, instead of your daddy’s old chevy.
    Yes but Tony was way more advanced than Primo, playing in french Pro A and having really good games at 18. There is not need of comparaison between those 2.

    Other thant that i don't see Primo as a FP , let the kid grow and see what he could be.

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    I’m not throwing in the towel on Primo and saying he’ll never amount to anything. Maybe he can be a microwave scorer off the bench one day and serve as an indigent man’s Manu.

    My point is that the FO looks at a guy like Primo and says — “We have a potential franchise player.” (According to TimVP)

    That is not confidence inspiring when it comes to the rebuild. That’s terrifyingly stupid.

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    I’m not throwing in the towel on Primo and saying he’ll never amount to anything. Maybe he can be a microwave scorer off the bench one day and serve as an indigent man’s Manu.

    My point is that the FO looks at a guy like Primo and says — “We have a potential franchise player.” (According to TimVP)

    That is not confidence inspiring when it comes to the rebuild. That’s terrifyingly stupid.
    I think the lesson here is to not believe everything you read or hear.

    timvp’s source (if legit) could have taken someone out of context and they could have meant it in a different way, such as “Primo could be a potential franchise player… IF he puts a lot of work in, improves his IQ, yadda yadda yadda”. Or it could have been some random dude speculating what the actual FO thinks. There are numerous ways information like this could have easily been misinterpreted. It’s why it’s likely better to watch news on CSPAN as opposed to Fox News or CNN. They’re all but there’s usually one better than the rest.

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    When we look at year 5 in the league and compare that to who was selected behind him (and thus available to spurs), Im confident the decision to reach on Primo at 11 will be validated.

    The guys behind him that have “shown more” so far, in my view, are Shengun, Trey Murphy, Herbert (but who saw that one?!). After the Indy game I’m cool with passing on Duarte, and Trey is just as inconsistent at Primo.

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    When we look at year 5 in the league and compare that to who was selected behind him (and thus available to spurs), Im confident the decision to reach on Primo at 11 will be validated.

    The guys behind him that have “shown more” so far, in my view, are Shengun, Trey Murphy, Herbert (but who saw that one?!). After the Indy game I’m cool with passing on Duarte, and Trey is just as inconsistent at Primo.
    Even Sengun has been demoted to the bench. Regardless of if he’s playing well off the bench or not, there does not seem to be a path for him on the Rockets to be a starter again with the way they are shaping their roster. So it would seem like his ceiling as a player is capped by the limited opportunity he is going to get as a Rocket. It’s a safe bet to say that for Primo to be better than Sengun, it won’t be a tall mountain to climb.

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    I liked Moses Moody and would have selected him over Primo. But didn't think Moody was going to be a future all star.

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    I liked Moses Moody and would have selected him over Primo. But didn't think Moody was going to be a future all star.
    He’s on my radar too, but it’s hard to gauge given how he’s used in golden state. Might be another one of those guys that leaves to another situation and shines outside the shadow of the warriors stars.

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    Even Sengun has been demoted to the bench. Regardless of if he’s playing well off the bench or not, there does not seem to be a path for him on the Rockets to be a starter again with the way they are shaping their roster. So it would seem like his ceiling as a player is capped by the limited opportunity he is going to get as a Rocket. It’s a safe bet to say that for Primo to be better than Sengun, it won’t be a tall mountain to climb.
    It feels like shengun is from another time. I was confused at first why spurs didnt go for him, but yesterday game reminded me why. unless you’re getting an Embid type post prospect, it’s better to have more Collins and Deing types that can help stretch the floor, than it is to carry dead weight at the 5

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    It feels like shengun is from another time. I was confused at first why spurs didnt go for him, but yesterday game reminded me why. unless you’re getting an Embid type post prospect, it’s better to have more Collins and Deing types that can help stretch the floor, than it is to carry dead weight at the 5
    Tbh I remember all the folks who were insistent that he’d be able to play the four (since they realized he was undersized at the five).

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    I liked Moses Moody and would have selected him over Primo. But didn't think Moody was going to be a future all star.
    Sure. But Primo is a much better prospect than Moody now.

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    So was Parker but it was obvious he was a star in the making the second he stepped on the court. Which is why the Sonics offered Gary Payton for him after seeing him in two summer league games.
    https://www.seattlepi.com/news/artic...on-1060737.php

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    Primo's been fine so far this season. This thread is weird.

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    Good goalposts here. Pick 12 isn't were you find franchise guys and franchise longshots dont appear until their prime years. Primo was probably best player that year given the teams win later timeline. Also at least wait till game 15 to judge a player. Some guys need play to settle (y'all were going to murder vassell for cold shooting just a few days ago). Chill

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    Even Sengun has been demoted to the bench. Regardless of if he’s playing well off the bench or not, there does not seem to be a path for him on the Rockets to be a starter again with the way they are shaping their roster. So it would seem like his ceiling as a player is capped by the limited opportunity he is going to get as a Rocket. It’s a safe bet to say that for Primo to be better than Sengun, it won’t be a tall mountain to climb.
    ? They're starting fringe player Fernando (now Garuba, since he's injured) and playing him spot minutes, so yeah, as of right now there's a clear path to Sengun starting.

    I don't have a great feel for Primo, but a bunch of the names being mentioned that were selected after him were always higher floor but given where the Spurs are at in their cycle, I doubt the ceiling of any will make them regretful.

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    ? They're starting fringe player Fernando (now Garuba, since he's injured) and playing him spot minutes, so yeah, as of right now there's a clear path to Sengun starting.

    I don't have a great feel for Primo, but a bunch of the names being mentioned that were selected after him were always higher floor but given where the Spurs are at in their cycle, I doubt the ceiling of any will make them regretful.
    Sequence of events matter here. Sengun was the starter in preseason and he lost that job to Fernando. Meaning the choice was decisive and a sign that he won’t easily earn it back. Also it’s telling what the Rockets feel about his fit and talent level, given the coach was singing his praises in preseason and has since toned it down when expectations weren’t being met.

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    Sequence of events matter here. Sengun was the starter in preseason and he lost that job to Fernando. Meaning the choice was decisive and a sign that he won’t easily earn it back. Also it’s telling what the Rockets feel about his fit and talent level.
    I know, but the point stands: When there isn't anything of consequence in front of you, there's a clear path to regaining your position.

    It could easily be as simple as giving him a kick in the behind so that he doesn't presume the spot is his and lag in the areas he's already poor in.

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    I think the FO moved the goalposts, so to speak, when they allegedly said their #12 pick, Primo, is a franchise player, or something to that effect. Obviously, this is been talked to death. I don’t see much to get excited about with him right now, but Pop or someone else seems to, so if that’s true then I will keep my hope alive a little longer till at least next season.

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    Once again I don't have any issues with Primo I still feel that he will get better overtime, my criticism comes from where we picked him. He was a late second rounder ,most sources have even said as much.

    However please no on the PG experiment , there is nothing in his skill sets and body type that fits this roll at a NBA level.

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    Once again I don't have any issues with Primo I still feel that he will get better overtime, my criticism comes from where we picked him. He was a late second rounder ,most sources have even said as much.

    However please no on the PG experiment , there is nothing in his skill sets and body type that fits this roll at a NBA level.
    You guys don’t like where he was picked but at this point no one drafted after him has an unquestionably higher upside. Certainly not higher productivity.

    I would have liked Moody but at this point it’s a coin toss and Primo has been far more interesting.

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    Meanwhile, Sengun is averaging 15 and 10 in his first three games this season ...

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