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    Keldon, Devin, and Primo may very well eliminate any chance of this guy coming here. Do the crying now.
    tbh primo is the #1 tank commander on the roster

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    tbh primo is the #1 tank commander on the roster
    Playing Primo could make a lot of people happy for unrelated reasons!

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    A series saving block to put them in the Finals vs a run of the mill block in Game 5 of the regular season
    You can view it that way or you can view it as Sochan showcasing his skill much earlier than Nephew did. It’s not like Gobert wanted to be blocked or put any less effort in because it was a regular season game. It’s basketball.

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    That block by Sochan reminded me of Kawhi’s block on Westbrook. It was THE moment you knew they would be special. For me, at least.
    Same. He's gonna be a player, no doubt. Imagine him being a lights out shooter...

    His defense, as crazy as it is to say, will likely be better than nephs at his peak because he can guard 1-5 at a very high level.

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    tbh primo is the #1 tank commander on the roster
    And if there's any doubt left, Pop confirmed at a presser the other day that he thinks Primo is coming along as a PG. They are absolutely pigeonholing him there despite the results to date and his propensity for turning it over needlessly.

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    One thing about that block -- this is what Sochan does. He's already gearing up for the contest as the ball is coming to Gobert. His anticipation is really good.

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    And if there's any doubt left, Pop confirmed at a presser the other day that he thinks Primo is coming along as a PG. They are absolutely pigeonholing him there despite the results to date and his propensity for turning it over needlessly.
    This just does not make any ing sense. We're gonna wind up destroying any scoring potential he might've been able to tap into by forcing the issue here.

    I hope to god I end up eating crow on this...

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    This just does not make any ing sense. We're gonna wind up destroying any scoring potential he might've been able to tap into by forcing the issue here.

    I hope to god I end up eating crow on this...
    I'm in the same boat man. Just don't get it at all. Think Primo has potential elsewhere but not at PG solely based on his TO propensity before I even get to his ability to regularly get to the rim. Hope the kid pulls it off.

    As an aside, I wonder if they're doing this because they know they have the wing sorted out already with Johnson and Vassell.

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    I'm in the same boat man. Just don't get it at all. Think Primo has potential elsewhere but not at PG solely based on his TO propensity before I even get to his ability to regularly get to the rim. Hope the kid pulls it off.

    As an aside, I wonder if they're doing this because they know they have the wing sorted out already with Johnson and Vassell.

    obviously, promo is getting minutes behind either of those two

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    I don't disagree but his ceiling will be limited if the Spurs aren't able to get All-Start talent on the roster (They currently don't have a future all-star on the team IMO). And the road to drafting an all-star is historically a lot easier when you're drafting top 5.

    I'm confident that Sochan will be a really, really good player in the league but the gap between him and Banchero is MASSIVE.
    Is it?

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    This just does not make any ing sense. We're gonna wind up destroying any scoring potential he might've been able to tap into by forcing the issue here.

    I hope to god I end up eating crow on this...
    The ol’ hedge my bet move……..cute. Give it some time pimp

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    The ol’ hedge my bet move……..cute. Give it some time pimp
    Of course... you never go full re , tbh.

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    Definitely tbh. Every early return shows you can build around Banchero while Sochan's ceiling is very likely elite role player a la Draymond.

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    The ol’ hedge my bet move……..cute. Give it some time pimp
    Lol. It's far from a hedge or hypocrisy as you lobbed my way earlier. It's very clearly saying we don't think he will succeed at PG. AND in the event he does, we'd be wrong.

    Pop and the coaching staff see something many on this board don't. Primo obviously has some skills but they are not, at least to date, being showcased as the point. The primary reason is because turnovers like he commits are a function of processing the court and the movement of the players in a proficient manner. That typically is a skill that has shown itself in a player's repertoire by this point in a player's development. It's really not a teachable skill. You either have that ability to process or you don't.

    That's the only thing that makes me question wtf Pop is doing here.

    And again I question if they are doing this because they feel like Primo is inferior to thecwings they already had, so they'd be critiqued for taking a second stringer at the 11 spot.

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    We Spurs fans are like gamblers that hit it big once, and now can't function in the real world

    We won the lottery and got the Admiral.

    We tanked (once!) and got Timmy.

    Now, like that addicted gambler, instead of getting a real job, we're borrowing money to let it ride again on the wheel! Or at least that's what most want on here.

    Chances even if we tried to tank we'd be in the bottom 4? Maybe 50/50.

    Chance then to get Wembanyama 14%

    Chances he becomes a superstar - maybe 30% (which is probably a high estimate, no matter how good he looks).

    Chances he stays with the spurs longterm? Who knows....

    Chances he leads us to a championship....Small

    When you look at the math, tanking ain't worth it. Better to acrue assets and hope you develop a mid-lottery player into a star.
    well if you count Scoot, the chances of getting him or Wembenyama would be 27.4%. And that doesn't count the players who come after them, which are a couple who could also be franchise players.

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    well if you count Scoot, the chances of getting him or Wembenyama would be 27.4%. And that doesn't count the players who come after them, which are a couple who could also be franchise players.
    Agree. It does fee like the spurs had the 2023 draft circled for some time and wanted to clear the decks for it.

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    Of course... you never go full re , tbh.
    True indeed! Well played…..

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    Lol. It's far from a hedge or hypocrisy as you lobbed my way earlier. It's very clearly saying we don't think he will succeed at PG. AND in the event he does, we'd be wrong.

    Pop and the coaching staff see something many on this board don't. Primo obviously has some skills but they are not, at least to date, being showcased as the point. The primary reason is because turnovers like he commits are a function of processing the court and the movement of the players in a proficient manner. That typically is a skill that has shown itself in a player's repertoire by this point in a player's development. It's really not a teachable skill. You either have that ability to process or you don't.

    That's the only thing that makes me question wtf Pop is doing here.

    And again I question if they are doing this because they feel like Primo is inferior to thecwings they already had, so they'd be critiqued for taking a second stringer at the 11 spot.
    I was actually responding to lefty big man������

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    A series saving block to put them in the Finals vs a run of the mill block in Game 5 of the regular season
    Yeah, I was thinking the magnitude of the moment was just a little bit different. Kawhi's play was gigantic due to it being a contributing play that helped get us to the finals. having said that, I've wanted to see defense return to the Spurs for a long, long time and Sochan is playing great on that end of the court for a rookie that's only played 5 games. Really excites me for his defense alone so far.

    What is the NBA app? Is this the same as the NBA League Pass app?
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    I was actually responding to lefty big man������
    Right, I know you were in the comment I responded to here but earlier in this thread you made a comment, without quoting me, right below mine about hypocrisy as I recall...Not even an ounce of it, Holmes. I'm consistent and readily available for critique if you can find it. I'll often say my bad, my mistake, or you're right when counterfactuals arise. Example: Relating to the thread about us not tanking, I just said I needed to apologize to that OP for thinking he was wrong. Clearly there's no intent on tanking nor will we be able to do so based on out talent level being higher than expected. Your contention seems to be that because it's clear that we'll be better than many people AND VEGAS thought, that it takes away from our stated desire to tank?

    1. We are and remain on a fast track to mediocrity -- whether we win 28 or 38 games, pretty much right where we've been without a dynamic or at least go to dominant scorer. Though I suppose it could also be achieved by having at least three 20+ pt scorers and a couple others in the mid to high teens. At best we have 2 of those guys now with Sochan potentially becoming a third.
    2. The only difference now is that instead of maybe picking in the top 2 or 3, it's likely we are in the late lottery now.
    3. I said I reserve the right to change my opinion on how many games we'd win or generally how compe ive the Spurs could be until we saw the impact of Sochan -- remember that we hadn't seen him at all since his last college game.
    4. Sochan and his defensive ability, ability to get out in transition and general basketball IQ have and will make this team better.
    5. Even with Sochan, we are maxed out at marginal play-in for the forseeable future.
    6. Given the above, we should still be trying to lose as many games as possible by trading away our skilled vets (Poeltl, Richardson, and McBucket) and playing our rooks like Branham 20-25 MPG.
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    Of course... you never go full re , tbh.
    Unless your screen name is Ducks.

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    Right, I know you were in the comment I responded to here but earlier in this thread you made a comment, without quoting me, right below mine about hypocrisy as I recall...Not even an ounce of it, Holmes. I'm consistent and readily available for critique if you can find it. I'll often say my bad, my mistake, or you're right when counterfactuals arise. Example: Relating to the thread about us not tanking, I just said I needed to apologize to that OP for thinking he was wrong. Clearly there's no intent on tanking nor will we be able to do so based on out talent level being higher than expected. Your contention seems to be that because it's clear that we'll be better than many people AND VEGAS thought, that it takes away from our stated desire to tank?

    1. We are and remain on a fast track to mediocrity -- whether we win 28 or 38 games, pretty much right where we've been without a dynamic or at least go to dominant scorer. Though I suppose it could also be achieved by having at least three 20+ pt scorers and a couple others in the mid to high teens. At best we have 2 of those guys now with Sochan potentially becoming a third.
    2. The only difference now is that instead of maybe picking in the top 2 or 3, it's likely we are in the late lottery now.
    3. I said I reserve the right to change my opinion on how many games we'd win or generally how compe ive the Spurs could be until we saw the impact of Sochan -- remember that we hadn't seen him at all since his last college game.
    4. Sochan and his defensive ability, ability to get out in transition and general basketball IQ have and will make this team better.
    5. Even with Sochan, we are maxed out at marginal play-in for the forseeable future.
    6. Given the above, we should still be trying to lose as many games as possible by trading away our skilled vets (Poeltl, Richardson, and McBucket) and playing our rooks like Branham 20-25 MPG.
    Solid position����

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    Our tank tracks are falling off bois!

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