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    Heck, prime Jrue Holiday on this team would be nasty too…

    a point guard who is a 1-2-3 defensive stopper.

    if there was a trade that can be had with JRich, McDermott for Jrue, I think that would give this team a serious boost.

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    this team... I swear.. cannot even tank properly

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    this team... I swear.. cannot even tank properly
    "This team sucks and will be tanking" was just an ESPN thing. Never listen to ESPN when it comes to sports analysis. They're idiots.

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    Basically a rich man’s Tre Jones that isn’t overpaid, whoever that is

    It aint Ben Simmons, that’s for sure…

    Someone like prime Chauncey Billups would be perfect for this team.
    His brother, Tyus would have been a great fit. He is Trae with a better jumper and a little bit more accurate passing. Too bad, the Grizz have him locked up for some years.

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    Basically a rich man’s Tre Jones that isn’t overpaid, whoever that is

    It aint Ben Simmons, that’s for sure…

    Someone like prime Chauncey Billups would be perfect for this team.
    I actually wanted spurs to overpay for tyus Jones during the last offseason. But they seem to want the cap space.

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    His brother, Tyus would have been a great fit. He is Trae with a better jumper and a little bit more accurate passing. Too bad, the Grizz have him locked up for some years.
    Lol. Just saw that after my post.

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    To me, this is the biggest issue when we talk about acquiring a PG over in the 'way to early pivot' thread. I don't want a ball stopper and I kind of feel like Fox is a ball stopper (although this isn't an anti-fox post just using him as an example). If we acquire someone I want guys who can move without the ball willingly and fit what we're doing. I've always believed this offense is a force multiplier and I want to lean into that structure with whomever we might target.
    I think if Derrick White came back to the team now, he'd fit in great. Without the pressure to be "next" and with the freedom to be the role-player he has been with Boston, he'd be in many ways a better Tre. Not as fast, but basically everything else would be a plus.

    That said, I do think the team would be well served to not tech solely into this style of play. The team is dependent on the three to allow their movement to work. If the shot isn't falling, they're relying on Johnson and Vassell trying to create inside at a high-enough rate to overcome a modern NBA offense. I don't see that going well for the team. Yes, you'd ideally want someone who completely fits into what the Spurs are doing. But they can afford to bend that style a bit if the player in question can do their part in team play most of the time. The "Beautiful Game" was a mode the Spurs could enter. It wasn't the entirety of their offensive arsenal.

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    I think if Derrick White came back to the team now, he'd fit in great. Without the pressure to be "next" and with the freedom to be the role-player he has been with Boston, he'd be in many ways a better Tre. Not as fast, but basically everything else would be a plus.

    That said, I do think the team would be well served to not tech solely into this style of play. The team is dependent on the three to allow their movement to work. If the shot isn't falling, they're relying on Johnson and Vassell trying to create inside at a high-enough rate to overcome a modern NBA offense. I don't see that going well for the team. Yes, you'd ideally want someone who completely fits into what the Spurs are doing. But they can afford to bend that style a bit if the player in question can do their part in team play most of the time. The "Beautiful Game" was a mode the Spurs could enter. It wasn't the entirety of their offensive arsenal.
    I understand where you're coming from and the Beautiful games wasn't the entirety of what they could do and having a go-to guy was important to them at certain points in a game and it'll be important to this team at some point as well. The difference I see is that team was a championship team and this one is at the very beginning of it's life so to speak. I don't want the go to player right now. I want them to fully embrace this style until it's just natural for them and then add that go-to guy who can still play the beautiful game within the system. It's more a matter of timing than anything. I don't feel like we should be trying to check all of the boxes as if we were competing for a championship prematurely. Just let them play this system and take some lumps and get better as they continue to mature and then look to add those pieces when they are ready.

    Now the Derrick White thing I get. He plays a role, keeps things flowing and plays D. All of that is fine and he wouldn't hinder growth at all nor would he detract from this style of play I just don't think it's needed right now or more precisely I don't it's worth giving up assets for because this team can already play like they need to and giving assets to get 'better' in the win column isn't in the best interest of this team long term. I think patience is what we need right now.

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    "This team sucks and will be tanking" was just an ESPN thing. Never listen to ESPN when it comes to sports analysis. They're idiots.
    I don't need to listen to ESPN to know that this is the year to tank. That's what the team should do.

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    we missed on Luka Sandwich but we now have Langford, Roby and Johnson out of that draft.

    Johnson was a home run and Langford can grow a lot more in my opinion. Roby looks like a rotation player too, if he can keep developing.

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    The result was another astonishing win against a much more talented team.
    At which point are we going to start considering the fact that maybe the Spurs aren't as talentless as we thought?

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    Sixers and Wolves may end up being meh, so we should keep that in mind too, but obviously more talented than us. But we have no stars, so less hierarchical divisions among players, which I like. So less material for infighting over roles, arguably.

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    I don't need to listen to ESPN to know that this is the year to tank. That's what the team should do.
    Not what I said. I said you should never believe that this particular team was going to tank.

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    At which point are we going to start considering the fact that maybe the Spurs aren't as talentless as we thought?
    Ding ding ding.

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    Not what I said. I said you should never believe that this particular team was going to tank.
    If the Spurs wanted to tank they would have not done anything different.

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    If the Spurs wanted to tank they would have not done anything different.
    If they were dead serious about tanking, they would have traded Keldon and Vassell.

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    If the Spurs wanted to tank they would have not done anything different.
    Oops, they're winning games. Guess you're wrong.

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    If the Spurs wanted to tank they would have not done anything different.
    If their top priority were losing this season, they would have prioritized trading Poeltl and maybe Richardson. People who followed the team closely knew that Poeltl would raise the floor.

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    Pop becomes an elite coach when Brett Brown is around.

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    If they were dead serious about tanking, they would have traded Keldon and Vassell.
    when you tank you don't trade your young assets.

    Spurs are rebuilding and a high draft pick would be great in that plan, Spurs surely did not make any moves to become a contender this year.

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    If their top priority were losing this season, they would have prioritized trading Poeltl and maybe Richardson. People who followed the team closely knew that Poeltl would raise the floor.
    raise the floor to what ? maintaining a 70% wr the whole season ? Poeltl

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    Primo DNP - Wardrobe malfunction

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    The old man might still have some juice left as a coach...his rotations, line ups, and adjustments have been almost flawless. I even liked the way he just let them play through that awful 4th in Indy and didn't pull Jakob when they started hacking him.

    Makes me wonder just what the was going on with Pop when he was trotting out Forbes, Belli, and Mills, to combine for 7 threes and give up 60 points. Headscratching tbh

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    The old man might still have some juice left as a coach...his rotations, line ups, and adjustments have been almost flawless. I even liked the way he just let them play through that awful 4th in Indy and didn't pull Jakob when they started hacking him.

    Makes me wonder just what the was going on with Pop when he was trotting out Forbes, Belli, and Mills, to combine for 7 threes and give up 60 points. Headscratching tbh
    Easy, not enough young talent, trying to unlock spacing for the stars, it wasn't great but you make a team to exploit talent. Now maybe signing better guys might have helped but thats another can of worms. LMA and derozan are just moody guys and frustrating to work with. Ball dominant “my touches“ couldn't run with this team

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    raise the floor to what ? maintaining a 70% wr the whole season ? Poeltl
    No. Preseason, I was thinking 35 wins with Poeltl vs 25 wins without.

    And to me, a 35-win season with Poeltl is the worst outcome. 40+ wins with the kids would reflect some real growth. 25 wins would mean good lottery odds. 35 is a repeat of last season.

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