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    The entire upper echelon of the organization, including Pop & RC are in a very precarious situation and will surely be forced into retirement if the evidence shows they were made aware of the allegations after the 1st incident but didn’t at least suspend Primo pending the outcome of the investigation. But this all comes down to when the “Spurs Organization” was notified of the incidents.

    I’m curious as to who in the organization was stupid enough to hire a female doctor to talk to young men about their psychological problems? Who couldn’t have thought some of those problems might be sexual and might present a problem? Stupid stupid stupid!

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    The entire upper echelon of the organization, including Pop & RC are in a very precarious situation and will surely be forced into retirement if the evidence shows they were made aware of the allegations after the 1st incident but didn’t at least suspend Primo pending the outcome of the investigation. But this all comes down to when the “Spurs Organization” was notified of the incidents.

    I’m curious as to who in the organization was stupid enough to hire a female doctor to talk to young men about their psychological problems? Who couldn’t have thought some of those problems might be sexual and might present a problem? Stupid stupid stupid!
    , hope so.

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    I’m curious as to who in the organization was stupid enough to hire a female doctor to talk to young men about their psychological problems? Who couldn’t have thought some of those problems might be sexual and might present a problem? Stupid stupid stupid!
    ty thing to say if her story is true, which I have no reason to doubt, but this was my thought too. Why do NBA teams need onsite clinical psychologists? This is the last thing on earth I’d want from a liability standpoint if I managed a bunch of 20-30 year old millionaire male athletes. Give them world class health care and encourage them to see the best local psych professionals, sure. But if the league forced me to have a shrink on-site for closed door counseling because “muh mental health”, better believe it would be a guy who looked like Toby from The Office.

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    Given that one of the most common mental health problems with young male athletes is their inappropriate treatment of women, it just seems obvious that hiring a female mental health counselor to conduct one on one sessions with the athlete is not smart. Many, if not most young men with these problems were raised with no father in the home to provide a positive male role model to emulate. If a young man only has testosterone to inform him on how to treat women (other than his mother), things can get ugly.

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    Given that one of the most common mental health problems with young male athletes is their inappropriate treatment of women, it just seems obvious that hiring a female mental health counselor to conduct one on one sessions with the athlete is not smart. Many, if not most young men with these problems were raised with no father in the home to provide a positive male role model to emulate. If a young man only has testosterone to inform him on how to treat women (other than his mother), things can get ugly.
    Victim blaming.

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    Not at all…. Unless she f’ed up professionally by not taking more aggressive action after the 1st exposure incident. Blame rests entirely with Primo, but the Spurs share blame by putting the female psychologist in a no-win situation. This does make me wonder exactly WHY the Spurs thought Primo needed “help” in the first place. Was there a history of aberrant behavior? Do they require ALL players to see the shrink? How many sessions did Primo have with the doctor before he invited Mr Happy to the party? At what point is the doctor ethically required to terminate her treatment sessions with an out of control patient and issue a formal psyche commitment to a hospital for observation & examination?

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    Blame rests entirely with Primo, but the Spurs share blame

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    I actually think the league should make a statement about this. On one hand, the idea of a sports psychologist as an ombudsman is smart (ie issues like stress, fear of performance). On the other hand players with more serious issues will happen again. The NBA has had several known psychopaths in its ranks. The league needs to specify what issues the sports psych can handle to prevent a escalation of embarrassment like with primo. The likely problem with primo is that the psych thought the FO would handle it, Fo thought legal would fix it, and round and round.

    The league needs to protect guys like Wright by making it clear how to escalate true pscych issues

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    I still think the work of a sports psychologist is to improve athletic performance. Given that the psychologist is paid by the Spurs, I wonder how candid the players would be anyway. So I’m inclined to think that players don’t talk about overly deep issues, though of course it’s possible, but rather issues of motivation and coping strategies to mitigate stress during or before games.

    Psychologist: “So I see you have challenges bringing the ball up against full court pressure. Hmm. Is there anything going through your mind at that time? Fear of rejection?”

    Primo: Uhhh…

    Psychologist: “Right. Let’s try another angle. Lets talk about your childhood and why you like to pull out your penis. Maybe there’s a connection there to your high turnover rate.”

    That would never happen. And obviously I’m being sarcastic. But I wonder how much of their conversation focused on his exhibitionism or prior abuse (if that’s true.). I think very little. I think Primo’s actions likely have nothing to do with what they talked about. And I think having a sports psychologist is perfectly fine but it most likely isn’t a session with Sigmund Freud.

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    Pee-Wee Primo back in action

    Gonna be annoying seeing him in a Lakers or Raptors uni next season tbh.


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    Is it feasible that Spurs migh give him a second chance this season?

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    Is it feasible that Spurs migh give him a second chance this season?
    No. He’ll never be a Spur again. They’ve turned the page on he and Dejounte and will never look back tbh.

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    He's still owed four million this year. Can this be used technically as an expiring?

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    No. He’ll never be a Spur again. They’ve turned the page on he and Dejounte and will never look back tbh.
    I think late-career Dejounte could play a year or two with the Spurs, once he's finally gotten over himself. It almost certainly won't happen but I don't think it's impossible.

    Primo, never.

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    He's still owed four million this year. Can this be used technically as an expiring?
    Nope. Just dead cap, unfortunately.

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    I mean, he is a 6”7 PG with franchise player potential.

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    Always hated this bas even before the flash. He'll probably flash again in the future and get himself removed once again. That behavior does not leave him.

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    I mean, he is a 6”7 PG with franchise player potential.
    omg

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    The Spurs are about to get Wemby and some of you actually want this loser back.

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    I mean, he is a 6”7 PG with franchise player potential.
    He may have flashed that potential but ultimately got exposed.

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    He is training for china league

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    I mean, he is a 6”7 PG with franchise player potential.
    I take this as a joke, right?

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    I'm sure he's been under professional therapy for months...2nd chance

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    The Spurs are about to get Wemby and some of you actually want this loser back.
    Like an abusive ex. “Maybe he’s changed”

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    I mean, he is a 6”7 PG with franchise player potential.
    I thought those open growth plates pushed him up to 6-9.

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