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DeSantis running guarantees a Dem victory
Who ya got, chief?
DeSantis running guarantees a Dem victory
Maybe now we know why he was hoarding classified information...maybe political dirt? Trump.
DeSantis running guarantees a Dem victory
That will be must see TV that debate between him and Trump lol
I’m pretty sure Trump will be willing to bring the whole party down if he’s not the nominee. I wouldn’t put it past him to threaten to run as a 3rd party candidate
Agreed. We need a Trump parade in Dallas. We need another Lee Harvey Oswald.
DeSantis would be dumb to run against Trump at this point. He is young and can wait. Trump will either be humiliated in 2024 or win and will burn his second Presidency. DeSantis would be a lock as the nominee in 2028.
U mean we need another J Edgar Hoover
no
if Trump somehow won and became wildly unpopular by 2028, the GOP would have no shot even if Nancy/Hillary was the Dem ticket.
DeSantis Youngkin is the winning ticket
Maybe lay off on predicting stuff for a few days, chiefif Trump somehow won and became wildly unpopular by 2028, the GOP would have no shot even if Nancy/Hillary was the Dem ticket.
DeSantis Youngkin is the winning ticket
Trump v DeSantis would be interesting.
Scenario 1: Trump and DeSantis go head-to-head in a primary, Trump hits DeSantis with all he's got. If Trump wins, GOP is at a big disadvantage in 2024. If DeSantis wins, Trump tries his best to divide the party and sink DeSantis' campaign. Not going to be pretty for the GOP either way
Scenario 2: GOP elders and DeSantis decide it's not worth getting into a nasty primary with Trump and let him have the nomination. GOP probably loses in 2024 and aims for 2028
Scenario 3: Trump is found culpable by the Jan 6 panel, or the Trump org is found guilty of tax fraud in NY. This is the best scenario for DeSantis. He can promise to pardon Trump if he wins, and Trump backs off to save his skin
Desantis seems to be pretty arrogant too. Maybe not as bad as Trump...yet. Trump has already struck first so I guess we'll have to see what happens/
Scenario 3 would suck because I really want to see Trump vs Desantis lol
Scenario 3 -or-
Scenario 4: Trump bends the knee to DeSantis either before or early in the primary, endorses DeSantis and DeSantis goes on to win the general election 2024 in a red tsunami year considering what will likely be a stagflationary recession paired with record gas prices.
-or
Scenario 5: Trump and DeSantis go head-to-head in a primary, Trump hits DeSantis with all he's got but by now the general consensus on both sides from all but the most radical QAnon`ers is that Trump is a pathologically waffling, lying fraud and anything he says is a reach or a lie at this point. DeSantis wins comfortably on Super Tuesday '24 and Trump bends the knee, suspends campaign, endorses DeSantis and DeSantis wins easily in 2024 considering the recession / Biden disapproval etc.
Oh sure he's arrogant but so was Obama. Desantis is a charismatic juggernaut.
The difference between Trump and DeSantis is DeSantis doesn't have all the baggage, from the multiple kids with multiple wives thing, the access hollywood/perverted stuff that turns him off suburban women voters, prior history of being a racist, possibly even a rapist; the QAnon ties and conspiracy hoaxes, waffling on covid policy etc. Started the inflation crap in 2020 with the stimulus bull , well before Biden was in power. Trump is just garbage.
Trump being garbage, a liar, a racist, a rapist etc etc didn't stop you or 70 million others from voting for him. And ultimately that's the truth about the conservative base - they will happily vote for Satan to defeat a (D) candidate.
If he's convicted by the state of NY, DeSantis wouldn't be able to pardon him.
It's difficult to see a scenario where Trump doesn't run as long as he is in legal jeopardy. He'd even run from prison. Especially from prison.
Good point on state vs federal charges.
Trump likely sees elections as opportunities to grift - he fund-raised from his idiot followers initially for the 2020 campaign and then to fund voter fraud investigation and legal challenges. If the GOP, Fox News and the rest of the RW media can divert the lemmings' attention away from Trump and towards DeSantis - and Trump's fund raising stalls - he might bend the knee and try to play kingmaker from the outside
DeSantis while he's still governor of Florida could block extradition though. Trump would just have to lie low and not set foot in NY state
He wouldn't leave Florida for the rest of his life?
And DeSantis would be running for president while harboring a fugitive? Biden wins in a landslide.
Tldr. Just get rid of gerrymanderingBut you'd have to get rid of the VRA to do that (i.e. draw clean and neat shapes and draw maps by geography, not crack cities/counties/precincts at all when possible, etc) and the Dems in control would never go for that.
The VRA hurts Republicans in deep red southern states but it hurts Democrats in the swingy purple upper midwest type of states. The current Michigan map for example is both a clean non-gerrymandered map and also an epic violation of the VRA, since it doesn't draw any black-plurality/black-majority districts even though there is a distinct case there should be 2 black majority districts and it's easy to draw them as such. For example. The black rights activists fighting the Michigan map in court might end up helping Republicans if they force the legislature/commission to draw a map that would include Pontiac and especially black-heavy Flint in with the NW Detroit area black voting bloc.
The current Michigan map: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...maps/michigan/ is a violation of the VRA because it packs too many black voters in the Washtenaw and Oakland county districts as well as packing Flint with an overall district this is extremely white outside of Flint. It is still in litigation and may very well be struck down in court over the VRA, but maybe not in time for the 2022 election.
Here's a VRA-compliant map I proposed a few weeks ago in Michigan that would give blacks 2 majority districts, one spanning most of Detroit and the other going from black-heavy NW Detroit and the black suburbs such as Southfield all the way through Pontiac and up to Flint. VRA-compliant.
Trump's mere existence is an opportunity to grift -- rubes keep sending him money no matter what. I think he sees running for president and definitely being president as get out of jail free cards and in some respects that's closer to truth than not. The legal and public advantages are just too great and the personal cost to him is zero -- I can't see a compelling reason against his running.
Just like Cruz they'll be besties if they end up teaming up
Last edited by Blake; 11-09-2022 at 05:28 PM.
You think DeSantis will bend the knee like that cuck??
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