OT: 2022 WORLD CUP @ Qatar

[GAustex]

Lukau lol

[lefty]

Can't blame Lukaku for that last miss, hard shot that bounced off him, too fast

[lefty]

Belgium

Kevin de Prune
Prince Harry

Belgian Messi

[hater]

Africa slapping that big black on them Euros

[pgardn]

If you are a top team, on ST, you have to be crap unless you win 3 straight all by 4 goals.

The WC play is not nearly as precise and coordinated as club soccer. It can’t be with the time spent playing together.
So almost everyone is I guess.

There clearly are teams with enough talent to run other teams ragged. Argentina is one of those teams. But because an aging Messi they must suck? Really? If They put it together for a game beware. They ran Poland ragged. And if people don’t think Messi is at least good, they failed to see some of the passes he made. He must be in that team, even at 35. Even missing penalties.

Its so easy to point out crappy so ST prefers the easy way. You would think people should hate this contest forever. Just watch the club teams, they practice together. The club teams also have many more choices in putting the proper parts together. Why even watch this compe ion if that’s the case?

[lefty]

Belgium heading to Europa League

[Ariel]

The WC play is not nearly as precise and coordinated as club soccer. It can’t be with the time spent playing together.

Just watch the club teams, they practice together. The club teams also have many more choices in putting the proper parts together.

This is a major factor in European success, they usually field teams with a significant number of players coming from a couple clubs (Spain: Barcelona & Real Madrid, Germany: Bayern Munich, Italy: Juventus, Milan & Inter, etc) and that allows them to compensate for their lack of training with the NT, helping them be more cohesive than their South American counterparts.
The South American powerhouses usually reach the WC in sub optimal form, both physically and collectively, and with ever increasingly long calendars, that plays a significant part in their performance. For Argentina this is quite evident, in success (1978, 1986, 2014 -yes, reaching the finals is a success-) and failure (2002, 2010, 2018). Our players are usually scattered all over, and without the time to make up for it, more often than not we pay a steep price.

[hater]

This BS that national players dont know each other is ing stupid BS

Most of these guys play together since early teens for their country. Theres plenty of friendlies, compe ions and tournaments for them to be 100% fully ready for the World Cup

Stop with the stupidity nigs

[pgardn]

This BS that national players dont know each other is ing stupid BS

Most of these guys play together since early teens for their country. Theres plenty of friendlies, compe ions and tournaments for them to be 100% fully ready for the World Cup

Stop with the stupidity nigs

So give us the team in which the National team is the same team as the club team fkn dunce?

They are 100% ready for the WC? are you just totally stupid.
Why have they played an exhausting club schedule then?
Why do managers of each try to have plans to not kill the players physically and then get into conflicts over too much playing time?
100% ready when Tottehman's Son is playing with a fkn mask because his eye orbit is still broken and healing...

You are as stupid in this section as in foreign affairs.

[hater]

So give us the team in which the National team is the same team as the club team fkn dunce?

Noone said that you ing re .

U have no clue what you are talking about.

A good national team has trained extensively together and all players know each other extremely well for years. Idiot

[pgardn]

Noone said that you ing re .

U have no clue what you are talking about.

A good national team has trained extensively together and all players know each other extremely well for years. Idiot

So then they are NOT at maximum capablity you re .

there is NO FKN way they have had the quality time like the club teams.
AND... they put players together on the field that play similar positions, unlike the club teams which try to pick them based on need positionally.

Just stop.
Shut up.
You are an idiot.

[dunkman]

Group F: Marocco #1, Croatia #2. Eliminated Belgium and Canada.

[Ariel]

This BS that national players dont know each other is ing stupid BS

Most of these guys play together since early teens for their country. Theres plenty of friendlies, compe ions and tournaments for them to be 100% fully ready for the World Cup

Stop with the stupidity nigs

Sure, knowing someone by name is the same as playing together a couple weeks all year at most...
From Germany's 2014 roster:
1 Manuel Neuer goalkeeper, Bayern Munich
7 Bastian Schweinsteiger midfielder, Bayern Munich
13 Thomas Müller midfielder, Bayern Munich
18 Toni Kroos midfielder, Bayern Munich
19 Mario Götze midfielder, Bayern Munich
20 Jérôme Boateng defender, Bayern Munich
16 Philipp Lahm (captain) defender, Bayern Munich

5 Mats Hummels defender, Borussia Dortmund
15 Erik Durm defender, Borussia Dortmund
22 Roman Weidenfeller goalkeeper, Borussia Dortmund
2 Kevin Grosskreutz defender, Borussia Dortmund

8 Mesut Özil midfielder, Arsenal
10 Lukas Podolski midfielder, Arsenal
17 Per Mertesacker defender, Arsenal

Bayern Munich: 7, Borussia Dortmund: 4, Arsenal: 3

From Spain's 2010 WC:
Víctor Valdés Barcelona
Gerard Piqué Barcelona
Carles Puyol Barcelona
Sergio Busquets Barcelona
Xavi Hernández Barcelona
Andrés Iniesta Barcelona
Pedro Rodríguez Barcelona
David Villa Barcelona
Raúl Albiol Real Madrid
Álvaro Arbeloa Real Madrid
Sergio Ramos Real Madrid
Xabi Alonso Real Madrid
Iker Casillas Real Madrid
Carlos Marchena Valencia
David Silva Valencia
Juan Mata Valencia

Barcelona: 8, Real Madrid: 5, Valencia: 3

And you can go for yourself and check up on Germany 2006, Italy 2006, Germany 2010, and you'll find similar results.

If you can't see a difference between having 80% or your main squad play together all year for years, as opposed to a couple weeks net time, then I'm afraid it's not in the football department you're lacking.

[hater]

Sure, knowing someone by name is the same as playing together a couple weeks all year at most...
From Germany's 2014 roster:
1 Manuel Neuer goalkeeper, Bayern Munich
7 Bastian Schweinsteiger midfielder, Bayern Munich
13 Thomas Müller midfielder, Bayern Munich
18 Toni Kroos midfielder, Bayern Munich
19 Mario Götze midfielder, Bayern Munich
20 Jérôme Boateng defender, Bayern Munich
16 Philipp Lahm (captain) defender, Bayern Munich

5 Mats Hummels defender, Borussia Dortmund
15 Erik Durm defender, Borussia Dortmund
22 Roman Weidenfeller goalkeeper, Borussia Dortmund
2 Kevin Grosskreutz defender, Borussia Dortmund

8 Mesut Özil midfielder, Arsenal
10 Lukas Podolski midfielder, Arsenal
17 Per Mertesacker defender, Arsenal

Bayern Munich: 7, Borussia Dortmund: 4, Arsenal: 3

From Spain's 2010 WC:
Víctor Valdés Barcelona
Gerard Piqué Barcelona
Carles Puyol Barcelona
Sergio Busquets Barcelona
Xavi Hernández Barcelona
Andrés Iniesta Barcelona
Pedro Rodríguez Barcelona
David Villa Barcelona
Raúl Albiol Real Madrid
Álvaro Arbeloa Real Madrid
Sergio Ramos Real Madrid
Xabi Alonso Real Madrid
Iker Casillas Real Madrid
Carlos Marchena Valencia
David Silva Valencia
Juan Mata Valencia

Barcelona: 8, Real Madrid: 5, Valencia: 3

And you can go for yourself and check up on Germany 2006, Italy 2006, Germany 2010, and you'll find similar results.

If you can't see a difference between having 80% or your main squad play together all year for years, as opposed to a couple weeks net time, then I'm afraid it's not in the football department you're lacking.

Yeah

If those guys would have played in different teams they would have sucked

Brilliant stuff

[hater]

So then they are NOT at maximum capablity you re .

there is NO FKN way they have had the quality time like the club teams.
AND... they put players together on the field that play similar positions, unlike the club teams which try to pick them based on need positionally.

Just stop.
Shut up.
You are an idiot.

Noone is ever going to be at maximum capability ya ing deuchebag

[pgardn]

Yeah

If those guys would have played in different teams they would have sucked

Brilliant stuff

Oh.

"I know Messi. We played together when we were 14.
We should be great together, better than any club team."

And we also text frequently, it should work perfectly.

[FrostKing]

Congrats to Morocco

Germans about to stumble into the QuarterFinals

[hater]

Oh.

"I know Messi. We played together when we were 14.
We should be great together, better than any club team."

And we also text frequently, it should work perfectly.

Yeah.this is how Argentine National team functions.

[Ariel]

Yeah

If those guys would have played in different teams they would have sucked

Brilliant stuff

I said it's a major factor, not the only one. But among the top contenders in any sport, a small advantage is enough to put you over the top. And I'd say that obviously qualifies as such.

[pgardn]

Noone is ever going to be at maximum capability ya ing deuchebag

You have just been given evidence that club teams have far more practice time and ability to pick from a variety of players versus National Teams.

your response is no team will ever be at maximum. We have no fkn clue what maximum is.
Club teams are better prepared both in their makeup, practice time and often degree of physical fitness. You disagree.
Because you are an idiot.

[hater]

I said it's a major factor, not the only one. But among the top contenders in any sport, a small advantage is enough to put you over the top. And I'd say that obviously qualifies as such.

There are much bigger factors. Such as talent, coach, organization, money, training grounds, etc.

International compe ion is not a level compe ion. Never will be. If I had the choice of having a team of same team club players vs a team of non same club plus messi. Guess who Ill pick

But carry on if you want do discuss a minor factor out of the hundreds

[Darth_Pelican]

https://dknation.draftkings.com/plat...appart-group-e

[DAF86]

Judging a team because it took them until after halftime to score against 2 teams that pretty much parked the bus in front of their keeper, is not a very smart argument. Argentina's highlight of the tournament to this day was far and away yesterday, should have beaten Poland by 4 or 5, the difference between both teams was just ridiculous.
It's worth noticing as well that the game against the Saudis, though undoubtedly a poor showing by Argentina, was an aberration in that the Saudis shot twice and scored twice... you could give them 100 times the same opportunities and in he vast majority they'd fail to score once, let alone both times.
We've yet to see what would happen when we face a team that actually puts pressure on our defense but, all in all, I'm content mostly in that Argetina's team managed to get out of the hole they dug themselves into, injected some much needed new blood (Enzo Fernandez, Julián Álvarez, etc.), wasn't overly reliant on Messi (to a point), and played well overall.
Now if we can get Rodrigo De Paul, Lautaro Martínez, and Paulo Dybala to regain their usual form, and Di María and Romeros's health holds up, we might actually have a chance to go far in this tournament.

I read that the Saudi's expected goal was 0,14 on that game. They got 2.

[FrostKing]

If African teams had White strikers & goalkeepers

[ElNono]

Bgium... another completely overrated team from Europ

Time to give Africa and Conmebol some of the Euro berths, tbh...