All facts!!
If u put a gun to my head, we’re most likely gonna end up blowing it and be picking outside the top 5 (6-8). Like above mentioned, too many hungry players and we actually have more talent than we think. Pop isn’t too bad of a coach obviously compared to the other teams right now at the very bottom. I can see no moves being made at deadline if we are teasing making the play in. No way pop deals any vets in that case. Man doesn’t lose on purpose. It’s not in his DNA.
Stop being so stupid. He’s been holding out players who were healthy enough to play all year. Vassell scored a very efficient 20 against OKC, shooting 4-6 from long, and was MIA last night against the NYK. Someone’s shoe laces come untied, and they miss a game.
Well I hope you’re right for the most part. Figured we’d be doomed for sure with Vassell out last night but nope. Langford ends up going off of course
That's the downside to having too many hungry players on the team.
Next 10 looking good.
Brooklyn twice, Memphis twice. Hosting Pops butt buddy Kerr.
Detroit could be a tough one.
Should go at least 2-8, maybe 1-9 and stay in 4th.
Holy crap, I just realized the jazz got the wolves 23 frp fully unprotected and that the wolves are presently sitting at 8th giving Utah a 26% chance at a top 4 pick. No wonder they’re not sweating their own seeding right now. ing Wolves
Now I’m annoyed we did move DJM to them instead!
Atlanta isn’t looking too hot either buddy. And that’s after they got DJ. By 25, I think we could have a great shot at a top 4 pick as well
Sure, but will there be a generational talent in 2025 like Victor?
Right now, Utah has two legit shots at Wemby this draft. Wow.
Wolves are really pretty bad they are only better than Houston over the last 10 games.
I saw them playing against Milwaukee and NO and they were not that bad ( against Detroit yes lol). They will finish somewhere between the 9th and 11th in the West and ahead of us, Houston and OKC imo.
People are freaking out because we’re at 12.5% and not 14%. Utahs two shots combined are 7%. No one has ever won from further back than #7, either, since the new flatter odds in 2019.
Thank you, Ex, that's exactly it. I don't get why people get so hot-and-bothered over every W, like we're so far from the bottom we'll majorly screw ourselves. Even with the worst record, the chances are significantly worse than even a coin-flip (50%) of getting Victor.
It'll all come down to luck of the draw, and small, 2% differences are meaningless there. You either get him, or you don't.
No, some people are freaking because they know Grandpa Attention Seeker may absolutely once again play all out for wins vs totally tanking teams the last month.
Spurs at 12.5% now.
Does not mean they will be after the final month.
Otherwise agree, 14 to 12.5 is meh.
Anything bottom 4 is workable for a shot.
This. That 12.5% is going to 0 once other teams throw the towel in.
you think we make the playoffs like actual 8 seed? I'm joking i know you were being stupid but thats where victor dreams die at 8 seed.
I understand the odds more than most. Even tankathon doesn’t accurately reflect the fluidity of the process come draft day. Merely preaching my view that PATFO will this up down the stretch. Pop has already gone on record stating his strategy is borderline lunacy for the long term survival of this franchise.
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I'm concerned for every win because I know my luck. With my luck, even with the worst record I'm expecting the 5th pick. But I want at least a top 5 pick.
I mean it has nothing todo with your luck.
That's what you say, but Solipsism says that you're not real and my luck is the only luck that matters.
Lucky for us it seems like a pretty deep draft 1-5 at least. Every year there’s guy in that range that should have gone number 1 and someone who should have gone a little low. Just gotta hope the spurs grab the right one lol
You are miserable.
All the more reason why they need to strive to finish last. This draft isn't necessarily a failure when (if?) they fail to land a top 2 pick, it's a failure if they fail to land a potential offensive star.
Smith Jr., Miller, Whitmore and George look more likely at this point to be that than the Thompson twins, Wallace and Black, yet I get the sense they'll be drawn more to the latter group.
Cam Whitmore would be the ultimate get tbh (aside from Wemba)
Good loss. Everyone matters!
One troubling thing though that I've been harping on for years, is the teams descent into a poor defensive team. It's seemingly been bad since LMA salvaged that season neph took a on the Spurs franchise. And it's been getting worse every year.
Used to be Spurs could hang their hat on that end of the floor even if the shots weren't going down on any given night.
As of tonight, spurs now have the worst +/- in the league and it's not even close. We are -2.7 pts behind the second worst team (Det) and -3 behind the next closest (Rockets).
To put that into perspective, we are now ~50% worse than any other team in the +/-.
Total PPG are also nearly 3 points worse than any other team (121 PPG). Other stats like fastbreak points also point to our decline.
I'm all about losing our asses off, but even if we get Wembanyama, I'm not sure we win many games 130 - 125.
Our trend is bad and has been for years. So what does that say about the spurs that we've been that poor on that side of the ball for so long? Poor coaching? Poor talent? Poor drafting? Poor talent evaluation? Poor scheme? Poor roster construction? Poor development?
Spurs used to be hated for boring low scoring games, now we get run out of the gym nightly. Granted we don't have The Big Three anymore but we really haven't even been respectable since neph decided to drop a duece on this franchise leading to LMA's season saving efforts on both ends. That was Pop's bread and butter and routinely had him call a TO to roast then bench someone for missing one assignment. Perhaps the game has just left pop behind...?
^^^
On that note, WTF do we still have Poeltl (and other vets) on the roster? Wasn't it ostensibly for defense and to help teach the youngsters proper rotations and positioning as a vet out on the court?
Yet clearly we suck balls there.
Take what you can get for him and move on. If the rooks and young guns are not going to start playing defense, then ship their asses out.
Our defense is just ing horrendous. Can't stay in front of anyone. Can't defend in transition (except Sochan and occasionally Johnson). Can't play man. Can't make proper rotations. Can't slip into zone without leaving horrible back door cuts with wide open lanes. Can't switch. Can't get out to shooters. **And the biggest one over the years, leave open or at least way too much space for the other team's best or hottest player.** Sean talks about this all the damn time.** It's like they're ing clueless about who not to leave open for a 3 or easy dribble drive to the hoop.
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