Conservatives use Damar Hamlin’s injury to peddle antivax conspiracy theories

[CosmicCowboy]

Literally only Darrin is making a conclusion based on political affiliation tf are you talking about

There have been ZERO facts to make an educated conclusion on what happened so any opinion at this point is just bull . Yours included.

The only thing we know for sure at this time is his brain went without oxygen for at least ten minutes and he is on a ventilator and still can't breathe on his own. There is a good chance the next solid facts we hear in a week or so is "Damar Hamlin unplugged'' and it won't be because he is playing his acoustic guitar.

If that happens an autopsy could possibly give some clues on what actually happened.

[spurraider21]

we need to remove red tape to allow pharma prices to drop

not enough red tape on covid vaccines

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Just another run-of-the-mill 24 y.o. elite athlete cardiac arrest.

yeah. Darrin is giving braindead credence to this idiocy.

[Adam Lambert]

There have been ZERO facts to make an educated conclusion on what happened so any opinion at this point is just bull . Yours included.

"We can't rule out that he was struck down by the Flying Spaghetti Monster, so your opinion that he couldn't have been struck down by the Flying Spaghetti Monster is just as invalid as someone's opinion that he was."

[FuzzyLumpkins]

There have been ZERO facts to make an educated conclusion on what happened so any opinion at this point is just bull . Yours included.

The only thing we know for sure at this time is his brain went without oxygen for at least ten minutes and he is on a ventilator and still can't breathe on his own. There is a good chance the next solid facts we hear in a week or so is "Damar Hamlin unplugged'' and it won't be because he is playing his acoustic guitar.

If that happens an autopsy could possibly give some clues on what actually happened.

There are plenty of facts you can look into regarding chest trauma and cardiac issues. Just like you can look up facts regarding the oxygenation CPR provides, how long he was reliant on it, the effects of brain asphyxia.

Your just ignorant on several levels. Question is whether it is intentional or not.

[CosmicCowboy]

"We can't rule out that he was struck down by the Flying Spaghetti Monster, so your opinion that he couldn't have been struck down by the Flying Spaghetti Monster is just as invalid as someone's opinion that he was."

That word salad makes no sense at all. I don't have an opinion simply because there are not enough facts at this time to make one.

[DarrinS]

Literally only Darrin is making a conclusion based on political affiliation tf are you talking about

I didn't make a conclusion.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I didn't make a conclusion.

No, you did your typical passive aggressive approach. You've been made to look to stupid to actually make an intellectual stand on anything any more.

[CosmicCowboy]

There are plenty of facts you can look into regarding chest trauma and cardiac issues. Just like you can look up facts regarding the oxygenation CPR provides, how long he was reliant on it, the effects of brain asphyxia.

Your just ignorant on several levels. Question is whether it is intentional or not.

I certainly hope he recovers. Brain oxygen deprivation to that extent is certainly not promising.

[Adam Lambert]

That word salad makes no sense at all. I don't have an opinion simply because there are not enough facts at this time to make one.

Has anyone in this thread claimed to be able to make a certain diagnosis?

The idea that the vaccine may have killed him is as preposterous as claiming he was struck down by a deity. You either agree with that or you don't.

[spurraider21]

No, you did your typical passive aggressive approach. You've been made to look to stupid to actually make an intellectual stand on anything any more.

he will say A=B and B=C but clutch his pearls when you call him out for believing A=C

[FuzzyLumpkins]

he will say A=B and B=C but clutch his pearls when you call him out for believing A=C

Or the "I was being sarcastic" defense. As if to obfuscate meaning makes it impossible to discern or respond that what he is arguing for.

[ChumpDumper]

I didn't make a conclusion.

You need to explain how the vaccine could possibly have caused his heart to stop after this hit and probably months after the vaccine was given to validate it as a possibility.

You haven't.

[CosmicCowboy]

Has anyone in this thread claimed to be able to make a certain diagnosis?

The idea that the vaccine may have killed him is as preposterous as claiming he was struck down by a deity. You either agree with that or you don't.

I am making no such claim. There is, however irrefutable evidence that there have been heart complications from both Covid itself and the Covid vaccine, so your arrogant "He's stupid for even mentioning it" is definitely subject to question. And No, I am not saying it had anything to do with this instance but barring more information it is arrogant to start calling people stupid for mentioning it.

For your reading pleasure

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34921468/

[ChumpDumper]

I am making no such claim. There is, however irrefutable evidence that there have been heart complications from both Covid itself and the Covid vaccine, so your arrogant "He's stupid for even mentioning it" is definitely subject to question. And No, I am not saying it had anything to do with this instance but barring more information it is arrogant to start calling people stupid for mentioning it.

For your reading pleasure

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34921468/

I did a word search for "cardiac arrest" and "death" with no results so you'll have to find something else.

[koriwhat]

Trump s blaming the Trump Vaccine

Did you take it?

[koriwhat]

LMAO At the cult circling their wagons to stop "conspiracy theories" when they keep peddling Russia, Russia, Russia!

[ChumpDumper]

Seriously, which is more likely to have happened?

1) Something that is reported to happen 20-30 every year.

2) Something that has never happened before, ever.

You Trump s are wishcasting.

[ChumpDumper]

LMAO At the cult circling their wagons to stop "conspiracy theories" when they keep peddling Russia, Russia, Russia!

LMAO at your getting triggered by my quoting you.

[DarrinS]

You need to explain how the vaccine could possibly have caused his heart to stop after this hit and probably months after the vaccine was given to validate it as a possibility.

You haven't.

That's probably the biggest reason to be skeptical it was vaccine related.

[CosmicCowboy]

I did a word search for "cardiac arrest" and "death" with no results so you'll have to find something else.

Like I said, political. I doubt any of the subjects they studied took a Pro Football impact to the chest at the same time.

[ChumpDumper]

That's probably the biggest reason to be skeptical it was vaccine related.

No, the biggest reason to dismiss your vaccine conspiracy theory out of hand is the thing that is recorded as happening 20-30 times every year that is exactly like what happened to Hamlin.

[ChumpDumper]

Like I said, political.

Those terms are not political. Your article doesn't mention those nonpolitical terms, so it is irrelevant to this situation.

I doubt any of the subjects they studied took a Pro Football impact to the chest at the same time.

The blows to the chest causing cardiac arrest are the things that are reported 20-30 times each year, every year.

[DarrinS]

No, the biggest reason to dismiss your vaccine conspiracy theory out of hand is the thing that is recorded as happening 20-30 times every year that is exactly like what happened to Hamlin.

I don't have a conspiracy theory. I just said the idea of it being vaccine related isn't crazy.

[DarrinS]

Those terms are not political. Your article doesn't mention those nonpolitical terms, so it is irrelevant to this situation.



The blows to the chest causing cardiac arrest are the things that are reported 20-30 times each year, every year.

20-30 times each year in football games?