Quite true.
And so things being equal in this case, I'm willing to cut Romeo before Stanley at this point, even though I hate the name Stanley.
depends they could trade us the better of the NO or LAL pick. They would not be able to let us trade our spot with the lakers since they did not agree to that. It does not matter much this year since we wont be good but if we would have the 29 spot and NO would have the 15 and lakers at 1 we would not be able to trade our pick to LA and we have the 1st and LA have the 29th. the swap is only able to be swapped with NOL draft spot.
Apparently Suns, Hawks and Jazz had a trade in the works, which has failed due to Jazz wanting too much :
To Jazz - John Collins + picks
To Hawks - Jae Crowder + someone else from Suns
To Suns - Jarred Vanderbilt, Malik Beasley
Tbh I wouldn't want the Spurs being part of this in the place of Jazz because of that bad Collins contract. Jazz probably wanted 2 firsts or more, which made it fall through.
My only problem with the Spurs replacing the jazz is that I believe JC makes us better in the short term and that works against us. I think he's more the player he was 2 years ago than what we see now with the issues going on in ATL.
Lakers receive: Trent Jr.
Spurs receive: Raptors protected '23 1st, Beverley, Nunn, Lakers protected '27 1st
Raptors receive: Poeltl, Richardson
or
Lakers receive: Trent Jr., Reddish, Rose
Knicks receive: Beverley, Nunn, Lakers (via Bulls) '23 2nd
Spurs receive: Raptors protected '23 1st, Westbrook, Lakers '23 2nd, lightly protected '27 1st
Raptors receive: Poeltl, Richardson
This isn’t bad but the lakers aren’t getting enough to pull the trigger on either of these deals
Maybe, but for only one of their 1sts, I'm skeptical they can do better than young, sizable wings, one of whom is a starting caliber 3 and D type (plus his Bird rights) and the other they've been known to have interest in since at least last season, as well as a stopgap secondary creator (granted he might be done).
Agree. Pass on Jollins, but I think spurs are primed to facilitate a Collins-Crowder swap.
ATL— Crowder; Romeo
PHX— Collins; Roby
SAS— Shatmat; Saric; Suns FRP
The Suns are getting too good of a deal. They are trading for a good player using a negative package and a first. It's not horrible for the Spurs, but there's very little reason for the Hawks to do their part. MAYBE replacing Langford for Richardson would help, but then it's a question of if it's good enough for SA. If Josh wants to go, I'd probably be okay with it.
Possible trade:
Lakers get Doug McDermott
Bulls get: Patrick Beverly, Isiah Robey, future spurs #2
Spurs get : Patrick Williams , Coby White
This trade solves a few problems for all 3 teams. Lakers get shooting, Bulls get a point guard and rebounding, Spurs get a young PF and a pg, both of which we need. Everyone wins.
The lakers get decent shooting which they need more than a crazy point guard to push for the 10th seed (no draft picks needed to go out) . The bulls who aren't doing all that great and who might blow up their team if things don't improve real soon, get a more experienced and durable point guard, and some needed rebounding also to push for a playoff seed. The spurs get a strong pf which we don't have currently and a backup point guard on an expiring contract. Sounds like a lot for the spurs, but thats what the 2nd round pick to the bulls is for. Everyone gets a nice addition to their team (without giving up too much) to move beyond all three teams rather disappointing seasons. In the spurs case an early start for next year.
Last edited by jjspur; 01-04-2023 at 10:08 AM.
Without parsing it to much...I don't see anyway the bulls move Williams for anything like that..
Problem with some of our trade scenarios, more or less, is that we have to take players back, with some of them possibly having several years on their contract, and I don’t think the front office really wants to be saddled with more years of different mediocre players. It’s hard to say. As much as I want them to make trades, I don’t see them making neutral trades, I think they want to win trades.
Williams is quite disappointing since his rookie season, his number didn’t improve at all. Not sure the Bulls would be so gready about him.
I don’t think they want player assets at all. Deadweight contracts and picks.
I don't think he's great either but the bulls have been approached a few times about him and wouldn't consider moving him for better packages.
You're right, I don't think the bulls want to let him go considering he was the 4th overall pick, but then his stats aren't setting the NBA on fire either. He's a decent player slightly better than average but definitely no all star or even close to one. Trading him now would be admitting the the bulls drafted him a bit too early.
Yeah, it’s tricky bc ATL and PHX are both precious about Collins and Crowder respectively. ATL will want another asset for sure, but would PHX be ok adding another FRP, maybe?
Unfortunately I also think Richardson has decreasing value by the day as teams will start viewing him as a buy out candidate. Adding him as you suggest probably on par with his value at this juncture.
Honestly? JRich looked dejected during media time after last years play in when asked if he’d be back this year. He’s an NBA player who WANTS to be here, and I doubt he’d even ask about a buyout, let alone push for one.
dudes been passed around the nba like a blunt. Poor guy
While they’re in NYC, might as well leave Doug and Romeo. Take in Fourniers contract and one of the NYKs 2023 FRPs in return
The major problem with that is that the Knicks don’t trade with us since they accused PATFO of tampering with Porzingas.
The Knicks got a really good deal for KP. I doubt they're so mad about that still that they'd still refuse to deal with the Spurs if the value makes sense.
Then, they turned around and did the Marcus Morris thing. The bad blood doesn’t only run one way. I don’t think PATFO were too jazzed about the initial accusation, either.
kemba walker just got released....why not sign him to the vet?
Because on certain night he'll be good enough to get us a couple wins we wouldn't get otherwise... we don't need that this season..
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