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    The deals fair tbh I just hate that we never seem to get a young prospect in return
    This. So much dead cap and useless 2nd round picks. How are we not able to find young prospects who have fallen out of favour elsewhere?

    Getting Langford is the closest to that.

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    Romeo Langford is your young prospect. That's what a young prospect looks like.

    This team also has four nineteen year olds already. It has two draft picks this year, more upcoming. And Charles Bassey. Exactly how many players do you think can play at a time.

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    What team made that offer for an overrated role player who can't handle star big men and would be a weak spot in playoff clutch situations on an expiring contract?
    I honestly would rather take the Boston deal

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    Romeo Langford is your young prospect. That's what a young prospect looks like.

    This team also has four nineteen year olds already. It has two draft picks this year, more upcoming. And Charles Bassey. Exactly how many players do you think can play at a time.
    When you’re a crappy team as many as possible to see who can be here for the long term.

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    Yeah a lot of posters and analysts have read the market in a wrong way it seems. Look at Utah's trade - they traded 3 players, each one worth a lottery protected first in a vacuum, plus 3 seconds for a single top 4 protected Lakers pick, which turns into a single second immediately. Basically if Lakers are that bad post LeBron Utah might end up with a 2027 34th pick for their troubles. Two of the three second round picks they're trading could end up being better than this.

    Hopefully something changes today but it doesn't seem like selling teams are getting good value at all.
    Worst case scenario for Jazz is if the Lakers just miss the playoffs but somehow leap frog everyone and got a top 4 pick. Stuff like this always happens for the Lakers.

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    When you’re a crappy team as many as possible to see who can be here for the long term.
    Cf my how many players can you play at a time comment

    Great, so you get another Romeo Langford to eat up the development of your other players.

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    Cf my how many players can you play at a time comment

    Great, so you get another Romeo Langford to eat up the development of your other players.
    Nope they get the minutes that Jakob, Richardson have eaten up. And guys are in and out constantly on a tanking team, there’s plenty of opportunity to be had.

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    Cf my how many players can you play at a time comment

    Great, so you get another Romeo Langford to eat up the development of your other players.
    I think we can do 3/year if we speed up the rotation. Langford may be a usable role player down the road, but have to make a decision on him this offseason. May be kept on a short contract, say 2 years with last one a team option, but beyond that at some point you have to cut the cord. If his ceiling is backup defensive wing, you can't keep yourself from trying better prospects for that. I'd give him one more season to show how much he can improve, then move on.

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    Nope they get the minutes that Jakob, Richardson have eaten up. And guys are in and out constantly on a tanking team, there’s plenty of opportunity to be had.
    Yeah tough to argue there isn’t enough opportunity to go around. If Isaiah Roby isn’t developing ebough it’s probably because he isn’t an NBA player. That statement holds true for 1/5th of our roster.

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    What's the point of getting more cap space if Spurs don't use it?

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    They must be still figuring out the pieces. Even from a roster space perspective, spurs would have to cut or send out someone if TOR sends out another player.

    General thoughts right now: I like this given the cir stances.

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    Nope they get the minutes that Jakob, Richardson have eaten up. And guys are in and out constantly on a tanking team, there’s plenty of opportunity to be had.
    Nah there's plenty of young mouths right now. I can't imagine adding another Romeo Langford at the moment. What's the point?

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    They must be still figuring out the pieces. Even from a roster space perspective, spurs would have to cut or send out someone if TOR sends out another player.

    General thoughts right now: I like this given the cir stances.
    Toronto have to send someone cheap to make the deal work, say Banton. Spurs would cut Dedmon to make it work.

    But it's possible they're also working on expanding the deal, could even become a part of a potentially upcoming OG trade.

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    Toronto have to send someone cheap to make the deal work, say Banton. Spurs would cut Dedmon to make it work.

    But it's possible they're also working on expanding the deal, could even become a part of a potentially upcoming OG trade.
    I still don't get why they want to trade OG.
    For me he seems like a good complementary to Scottie.

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    I think it's fine to wait to see if this is a good trade but it certainly isn't a bad trade. They set a high price and many of you "fans" are clowning them for it as it they didn't do that they would have somehow been better off? Yall.sound like expert negotiators tbh. I think poeltl has been mediocre this season so that didn't help much but in any event this strengthens the tank that started in the summer. Honestly my biggest worry was that today would come and go with Jakob still on the team.

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    I still don't get why they want to trade OG.
    For me he seems like a good complementary to Scottie.
    Now that they have a true 5 OG, Siakim and Barnes are a tad redundant. He is also inline for a nice pay raise after next year. Perfect time to sell high.

    Paying GTJ, OG and FVV over the next two years is just silly. Sell high and rebalance the roster.

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    They must be still figuring out the pieces. Even from a roster space perspective, spurs would have to cut or send out someone if TOR sends out another player.

    General thoughts right now: I like this given the cir stances.
    Actually, not sure where the idea that TOR has to send another player to match salaries came from. Jakob-Birch works straight up.

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    Hey, it sounds like we got two unprotected picks!

    Just not in the first round…

    Bolano looks like a decent player if we can get him. Good passer/court vision.

    Boston trade might have been better but we’ll see.

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    This. So much dead cap and useless 2nd round picks. How are we not able to find young prospects who have fallen out of favour elsewhere?

    Getting Langford is the closest to that.
    Way to shortsighted….. the 2nd round is a modern day goldmine!

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    no . From two firsts for poodle to back to tor to get raped
    We were never getting 2 1st for Poeltl. Nobody ever at any point in time offered 2 1st for Poeltl. That was just an outright lie the front office was pushing. Nobody in the nba is paying that for Poeltl skillset.

    Don't let the T wolves and Hawks trade fool you. Those teams front offices are super desperate and had to sign a splash player cause they jobs are on the line. That is why they gave up all that draft capital, cause if it doesn't work they getting fired in the off season so why would they care about draft picks for a team 3 years after they are all gone? Deals like that are not, and won't ever be, the norm.

    I am shocked the spurs were able to get multiple picks for Poeltl at all. He sucks at offense. Get's on by any big with a pulse. Spends half the year making 40% of his freethrows, and his a foul magnet 1 out of every 5 games he play's.

    Let me ask you this, if the spurs had traded two 1st round picks to obtain Poeltl, would you think that was a good trade? If not, then why do you think some other team would, and should, do it?

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    Actually, not sure where the idea that TOR has to send another player to match salaries came from. Jakob-Birch works straight up.
    It doesn't work straight up unless there are other deals, because with Poeltl's contract Toronto become a taxpaying team, which limits the amount they can get back in a trade to 125% + 100K. There likely will be more moves, or the trade expanded.

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    just horrible

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    Let's be real, it's BWrong....that 1st rounder is probably top 28 protected and will never convey

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    Poeltl already got that contract once TOR traded for him.
    Not at all. I mean, seems logical, but I doubt he gets 20M

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    I think it's fine to wait to see if this is a good trade but it certainly isn't a bad trade. They set a high price and many of you "fans" are clowning them for it as it they didn't do that they would have somehow been better off? Yall.sound like expert negotiators tbh. I think poeltl has been mediocre this season so that didn't help much but in any event this strengthens the tank that started in the summer. Honestly my biggest worry was that today would come and go with Jakob still on the team.
    Yep, when you are having a garage sale you mark everything for $5 more than you think it's worth, expecting that anybody interested in it is going to want to shave off five bucks and will walk away feeling like they got a deal.

    If they happen to pay that extra 5 bucks, even better.

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