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    Black kinda reminds me of maybe what D. White was supposed to be for SA

    Agree that Black's seeming lack of athleticism is the main criticism. He could get dusted at the NBA level
    He's not unathletic though. He's a lot like Sochan, tbh, very fluid and smooth, multi-lateral.

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    Aggregate NBA mock draft 4.0: Duke's AJ Griffin is soaring back into the top tier

    1. Jabari Smith
    2. Chet Holmgren
    3. Paolo Banchero
    4. Jaden Ivey
    5. AJ Griffin
    6. Johnny Davis
    7. Jalen Duren
    8. Keegan Murray
    9. Bennedict Mathurin
    10. TyTy Washington
    11. Jaden Hardy
    12. Kendall Brown
    13. Shaedon Sharpe
    14. Ochai Agbaji

    19. Blake Wesley
    23. Jeremy Sochan
    87. Dominick Barlow
    Not in top 90. Malaki Branham
    Thanks, very interesting. Cool to see who was firming up and who was not. Jaden Hardy, hoo-boy did he drop. As did Kendal Brown and Washington, if less so. And we can see how the tournament helped Sochan and Branham. It was in January that Malaki started popping and by now was really starting to cook.

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    kinda weird how Keyonte has been falling like Kendal Brown did

    Brown #12 mocked, went #46
    Has George been dropping? I've often seen him in the top 10 range. I think his star is still really bright.

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    Nick, i said Arkansas

    Both are injured so i was thinking dbestpro talked about Nick.
    Right, but the discussion started with ‘Smith’, and there were two of them mocked, and the comparison was made to Dame, who’s like 6’1”.

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    kinda weird how Keyonte has been falling like Kendal Brown did

    Brown #12 mocked, went #46
    Keyonte George ? https://hoopshype.com/lists/nba-mock...usar-thompson/

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    Has George been dropping? I've often seen him in the top 10 range. I think his star is still really bright.
    Your're right. number 8 on the aggregate mock, He's not dropping.

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    good call then, thought Keynote had slid a bit in the mocks but looks like I'm wrong.

    actually if anything Keynote rose. I just googled a mock from Oct 2022 that has him at #10 and now he's at #8.

    guess I was thinking how some of his highlights didn't quite pop to my eye but it must just be me because it hasn't affected his mockings elsewhere.

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    Well this USA Today mock from Nov 2022 has Keyonte at #4 and maybe that's what I'm thinking of.

    Just had the impression Keyonte had been mocked as high as top 5 albeit early/pre season 2022 and now sliding a bit to top 10 ish range which kinda reminded me of Kendall Browns trajectory a bit but I think I'm still off on this one.

    https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/nba-m...ege-basketball

    Of course this also has Livey II top 5 lol and so things have shifted since then for sure.

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    Yeah I remember J Hardy was all hype this time last year. Sunk so far
    He had 29 points recently… So that’s something. I would completely write him off yet.

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    He had 29 points recently… So that’s something. I would completely write him off yet.
    I suppose the hype had to come from somewheres then. Good for him. I love those agedlikewine draft stories. Hope he puts it all together.

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    I suppose the hype had to come from somewheres then. Good for him. I love those agedlikewine draft stories. Hope he puts it all together.
    Last year for one of our later pics, I wanted either Malaki or Hardy, and I’m totally fine with Malaki so far. I didn’t think Hardy was playing at all, but I just googled him and saw he put up a career high 29 points last night, and he seems to be getting more playing time after the big trade.

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    Scoot in concussion protocol and did not make the trip to Austin for two games vs. them. Deep state inside sources state it is because Scoot does not want to get drafted by the Spurs.

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    If I was his manager I would shut him down until draft

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    Are Brandon Miller and Jabari Smith, Jr., the same player?

    Smith had a ch better stats in categories. Miller has better advanced stats across the board. Miller will be a year and a half older than Smith was on draft day.

    https://www.tankathon.com/players/co...--jabari-smith

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    You make a good comparison I think though Smith is a little better as far as being stronger and his over all game but the talent difference is not that far between the two.

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    A lot of college today, with most players of interest on the court.

    Watching Alabama vs. Auburn. The comps between Jabari and Brandon Miller are really spot on. I feel like Miller isn't as long, not as tall, but more fluid of an athlete. Smith could get shots over most anybody, Miller has to resort to dribble moves at times.

    I didn't watch Auburn a ton last year, but don't remember Smith being an exceptional passer, although a willing one. My sense is that Miller is better driving the ball and has better court vision.

    The age difference is still a sticking point. At least a little. Miller will be 21 around the early part of the season. He's older than Smith is.

    My call is that Miller is the superior player. In my eyes, he seems like he's still filling into his talent profile and expanding his game while Smith tbh always felt fairly finished. One pause is that Miller is still slight and lacks strength and he's already 20 and a half y.o. He doesn't shy from contact, at least, but he's a very slight PF.

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    Oh, no, what are you doing ESPN.

    I was just about to say that Brad Miller has the same problem I had with Smith. They both look like role players. Absolutely not Durant, who as a freshman at UT was already a hub, team lead, everything.

    With Miller, as with Smith, you're looking at paying a top 3 or 4 salary for a guy who might mostly stay around the three-point line and require activation. If the shooting doesn't translate I don't know what else they do.

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    Watching B.Mill right now ALA vs AUB

    My new fave for SA to pick hopefully

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    A lot of college today, with most players of interest on the court.

    Watching Alabama vs. Auburn. The comps between Jabari and Brandon Miller are really spot on. I feel like Miller isn't as long, not as tall, but more fluid of an athlete. Smith could get shots over most anybody, Miller has to resort to dribble moves at times.

    I didn't watch Auburn a ton last year, but don't remember Smith being an exceptional passer, although a willing one. My sense is that Miller is better driving the ball and has better court vision.

    The age difference is still a sticking point. At least a little. Miller will be 21 around the early part of the season. He's older than Smith is.

    My call is that Miller is the superior player. In my eyes, he seems like he's still filling into his talent profile and expanding his game while Smith tbh always felt fairly finished. One pause is that Miller is still slight and lacks strength and he's already 20 and a half y.o. He doesn't shy from contact, at least, but he's a very slight PF.
    Thanks Mr Body

    Imo Miller is more suited with his position in the NBA than Smith. Smith is not good inside : not good on post defense or post offense but he is a PF.

    For Miller who is a true SF imo to not be a a good or maybe average inside player is not a big problem.

    Also i see him being better driving to the basket than at the beginning of the season.

    Agreed with your conclusion.

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    If I was his manager I would shut him down until draft
    If you ever had to shut him down, that probably was this summer when the hype was at its top... Since then, a few little concerns have emerged and he's still projected #2 but you never know what can happen behind... He's also playing to clear all that now.

    And maybe he tought he could challenge Wemby with one more year as a pro baller...

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    Great analysis all

    The JSJr comps to B.Mill are spot on, cant unsee

    I am fascinated with the potential fit and think SA can coax more out of Miller than he currently is showing.

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    Wary of Millers age and the overpaid role player possibility - good points there for sure

    There is a lot of intrigue still. Could turn that 6'9 frame into a monster and remember Sochan was doing things in the first 50 games of his NBA career that he never really exhibited before then; shooting and offensive tools he was said to not really possess imo tbh

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    Watching B.Mill right now ALA vs AUB

    My new fave for SA to pick hopefully

    Not the best game to pimp Brandon Miller, right?

    But yeah, he got game.

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    I know SA has holes pretty much 1-5 now with PG depth shallow and now Poeltl gone despite the Zollins/Bassey/Birch which you could argue is decent Bigs corps esp if Bassey levels up or Birch surprises.

    But with the departure of JR and now Doug coming into his expiring and thus a trade asset, B.Mill could drop in SF without much of a logjam and play up on some PF at 6'9 and with his stretch 3PT shooting could space the floor and wreak havoc on opposing defenses.

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