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Also, very curious at the thoughts of Cam Whitmore by the gang here. The clips posted earlier in this thread remind me of a combination of Nephew and Rudy Gay, which I’m here for.
Yeah, late lottery in this draft into the 20s, but he'd be better served to play at IU another year. He has really great flashes but then a number of bad games. His tools are really nice - good pace, very strong sense of the game already.
Also, very curious at the thoughts of Cam Whitmore by the gang here. The clips posted earlier in this thread remind me of a combination of Nephew and Rudy Gay, which I’m here for.
I like him alot....I've got him #4 on my Board
Black 23/5/5 today. He’s my pick after 2.
I haven't seen Whitmore play yet. His 0.7 apg is a bit frightening. Is it bad teammates? I also wonder if he's effective in part because he's beefy and strong against college opponents. Looking forward to seeing. Also need to check out Jarace Walker.
Anthony Black didn't even seem to be playing that well, but then his team wasn't that great today and against tough defenders. He's very much my #3 right now. I really see his capabilities as similar to Sochan if a completely different postion. He needs polish and work, but his feel for the game is completely different than most freshmen.
He played better than I expected against a strong physical Defense...
That's the game when evaluating College players and disagreeing but really not sold on Black personnaly. He's listed at 190 lbs (probably much less) and I have big doubts he could dominate or play in the NBA like he does in College. I already said it but I don't find him a natural and I'm not seeing a productive NBA player there (I know others see the opposite), reason why I can see him dropping in the mock drafts...
Let's see.
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I like Black but if we draft him then that means things went very bad in the lottery pick for us.
Who do you think should go 3-6?
Seems that’s the honest expectation. 1 or 2 is the dream. Best case scenario. 4-5 seem the most plausible. I would absolutely plan around that and hope for a miracle.
Jarace Walker is an obvious riser. Jett Howard has a high chance of translating if we can trade into another pick. Black would drop, he is a t-shirt skinny guy.
He’s basically the same height and weight of a rookie Vassell, 195/200.
Not sure Black is even really 190 tbh. I mean, my arm is bigger than his when he's flexing... which is my first criterion to dedice who we should draft or not(except for Wemby ofc). And I'm pretty fit, right? He's just really not strong overall, with no indication he could really become strong enough.
Haircut is the second criterion. If he cleans it up, maybe we can talk...
More seriously, I'm really not confident drafting him with a top 4-5 pick... Too risky, to big of a gamble to me, I do'nt know, it does'nt seem to me he would be a game changer. When I look at him play, I don't find him very smooth or fluid (funny since others see the opposite)... I guess I'll wait the NBA combine, when comparing to other top prospects, to make a definitive judgment.
I'll buy a pick for Taylor Hendricks. Got a true jumper for a 6-9 shot blocker.
Black reminds me of Kyle Anderson. He's likely not that unathletic, but I'd describe his game as slow rather than smooth.
For my money, I'd still go George. His efficiency isn't where it needs to be, but the kid can score at any level and is developing as a playmaker.
I like Cam. I'm seeing a real NBA player there... Dynamic, explosive, NBA ready body, can shoot (not great lift tho), can drive with a nice touch and finishing and with nice instincts on defense (1.6 stl) that make me believe he could become a real two-player if working hard to improve on both sides (notably getting some more lift on his jumpshot)...
Sure assists are a concern but with Sochan on that team I'd def take him over Anthony Black for example. That being said, not sure I'd take him over Brandon Miller who has probably more potential as a complete player.
I understand not buying in to Black at this point. I will say that his size isn't a concern of mine. He's a bit positionless, either a tall PG or a SF who sees the floor really well.
I haven't seen him really get knocked around a ton. More important, he is very scrappy both for loose balls and inside. He drives strongly into traffic and uses his body very well. Even if he doesn't add strength, and he will, I think he's perfectly fine in that regard. He's physical already.
One thing I love about him is what Sochan has. A total lack of memory. I mean in terms of giving up on plays or letting previous plays get to them. A lot of players can let bad play get to them. These two guys just keep going. Missed a shot? it, get it next time. Already out of mind. Turn the ball over? No smacking hands and sighing, just immediately race to get it back. I've also seen how they turn things up in the defensive clutch.
Blacks profile is similar to Sochans, with some expected differences, for being down a position. Fewer rebounds, more assists. The biggest difference was his ordinary 71% FTs, compared to Sochans bad 59%.
Dean has him in a group of 5 players tied at #7, after Wemby, then Scoot.
*cough* Derrick White *cough*
Whitmore is really interesting : really strong, can shoot the 3, the ballhandling is really in progress... good help defender he's a 3/4 but more a 3 imo( Ron Artest type ?)
His ceilling is high imo.. i have him after the top 2 and Miller for the moment. Still needs some clips and games to classify Whitmore and co.
I like Jalen Hood-Shifino better and you can get him around pick 16.
Spurs should swap the 2024 toronto pick and get Utah's 2023 Minnesota pick and get their pg after landing Wemby.
If JHS only goes at 16 then he'll stay in school.
Yeah, not down with swapping a 1-6 protected pick for a sure fire non lottery pick.
Unfortunately, the value in this draft may be well after the Spurs pick.
But if the Spurs somehow get the First Pick, nothing else matters!
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