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I apologize if a thread on this already exists. I searched for one, but the search function here has never been perfect.
I watched the entire season. It's fine.
It straddles a line between being absurd in a funny way and absurd in a cringey way. They made some choices I didn't care for, but overall, the story is interesting. Folks who only watched the first episode may not realize the characters are supposed to change over the course of this series to more align with their original portrayals (though without as much stereotyping, I'd imagine). At the end of the season, you can get a sense of how they'll make that pivot.
A lot of people of different political persuasions saw the changes to the cast and assumed the show was going to be taking strong political stances. In reality most of the direct political commentary from the characters is the drivel that comes from kids who know politics and social issues exist but who don't have the life experience or education to really know how they feel about them. You're not supposed to agree or disagree with what they're saying any more than you're supposed to agree or disagree with what any teenager says. Some of the they say is right, some of it is wrong, some of it is opinion. The show itself does take some stances but it's mostly in how it normalizes LBGT people existing openly, women holding some positions of authority, interracial relationships and in general minorities existing without having to be ambassadors for their particular group. That's just common sense stuff. It doesn't constantly scream "Diversity is our strength." Fred is often criticized for his "rich, white male"-ness, but I'd say the majority of the characters in the show are white, and maybe only the sheriff gets a similar treatment.
The sexualization of the characters is a much bigger question mark for me. Without getting into spoilers, it's hard to pin down their ages or if they're all supposed to be in the same year. The show started off my suggesting they were high-school seniors, but it's also possible they could be as young as freshman. In any event, it would've been best to just put them in community college or something. It's okay to acknowledge that kids get themselves into all kinds of crazy things. But stuff like in that first episode and some of the commentary hits really differently when talking about potentially 15-year-olds rather than folks in their 20s.
Velma herself is likely one of the things that turns people off the most. I'm going to leave her being of South Asian descent out of this. Just like with the politics in general, a lot of folks seem to be confused into thinking Velma is supposed to be a role-model or at least the audience proxy for the show. If this were intended for kids, that could make sense. But as adults, we shouldn't be looking to kids for moral instruction. Instead, we should be able to see them for the underdeveloped, unreliable bags of emotion and hormones most of us were at that age. Velma says stupid stuff, treats people poorly and makes bad choices. You could imagine that the older version of her character would cringe at seeing her younger self in a way that many of us do when we look back at that time in our lives.
So yeah, it was a fine show. I don't like television, but I'd watch a second season. Supposedly they're already working on another season, though I could totally see the execs pulling the plug. Hopefully if they get another season, they focus on bringing these characters home rather than writing as if they're going to get a third season. It's possible to complete the arcs in 10 episodes, especially with a time-skip. The writers had some long-term vision in mind, so I hope they can stick the landing.
Last edited by Chinook; 02-14-2023 at 08:06 PM.
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I just can't care about this. I still haven't forced myself to watch Wednesday even though it's got good reviews.
ive only heard about this through people complaining about wokeness, etc. otherwise wouldnt have known the show existed. dont think i have interest in watching it regardless
I thought it was very overrated. I'm surprised how many non-preteen girls loved it, nostalgia is powerful I guess.
I'll probably never watch it then. I thought Ricci was great in the movies but I don't need to see a whole series of that.
I was intrigued by how many people on "both sides of the aisle" hated it. My sister is also a lifelong Scooby fan and liked it. I think a lot of people fell into the trap of taking it way too seriously. It'd be like thinking Bevis and Butthead was supposed to be a serious commentary. The girl eats food out of a trash can FFS.
It's weird to see articles about it being cancelled and renewed coming out simultaneously.
Felt very much like a product of a focus group.
Stranger Things + Harry Potter + Reboot of an Old Franchise = $$$
Really...all cartoons suck once they keep trying to keep it going. Scooby Doo is at the top of the list. Once they started to have like Scrappy Doo, Dynamutt, and the Globetrotters, it was over. I guess Tom and Jerry might be next on that list.
i find the concept of a lifelong scooby fan to be odd tbh
I guess if it was trying to keep me interested, it'd take it to a darker level with her cussing like crazy and killing folks.
Lol the Globetrotters when they'd pull gadgets out of their afros.
Usually the first installment of cartoons is great but any time they've tried a reboot it is way watered down and blows. Bugs bunny being a prime example.
Oh but pretending to be solving crimes with the gang maybe?... Yeah I'd watch
Eh, a grew up watching A Pup Name Scooby Doo, so I don't have a love for the old canon that someone who watched them in order might. By the time I was watch, the stuff with Scooby Dumb, 13 Ghosts of Scooby Doo, the cartoon movies (including the old ones with guest stars) and a few other reboots were also in rotation. None of them are particularly better or worse in my mind. Tom and Jerry at least I do have some nostalgia for everything up to and including Tom and Jerry Kids. Didn't watch the stuff after that and find it weird to do so now. But I can see what you mean when it comes to something like Spongebob, where modern episodes feel extremely weird for me to see when I happen to catch one.
It is any sillier than being a lifelong fan of anything else? I don't mean like she's dedicated her life to the cartoon. But she was a big fan as a kid and is always willing to give reboots a chance even if she has her favorites.i find the concept of a lifelong scooby fan to be odd tbh
I don't dislike that at all. I mean, she cusses plenty in this version, so not that. But a Dexter-like spin would be interesting. Feel like there was a fanfic like that or something. I have a feeling the execs would not greenlight making her character that dark after deciding to market her so heavily. But , I hear that Perry Mason reboot was good.
Ah...I didn't know that she cussed. But whatever. I kind of liked Perry Mason but not enough to get past a couple episodes.
The whole thing is straight horse crap. Not even that they are totally destroying what Scooby-Doo and the related characters are supposed to be about, but its just a platform for Mindy Kaling to spout more of her woke nonsense. Most horrific show I have ever seen;embarrassed even gave it a shot.
WTH is this for real?
I'm recommending you all get off any soy, and soy products you are currently on.
haven't seen wednesday but tim burton = automatic W
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