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    People think Bassey's stock was way higher than it was. $5 Million guaranteed is a lot of money for a guy who was at risk of being out of the league. He has a lot to prove before he's going to be able to negotiate at that level. Plus this is basically $5 Million for a season and a third. In case it wasn't clear this isn't an extension. It's a conversion.
    Side question: Do tie breakers come into play for determination of “seed” in lottery? I know if say for example DET/SA have the same record their odds will just be split, but seeding still matters for determining how far a team can fall. So is it a coin toss in the event of a tie or is their H2H tiebreakers?

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    People think Bassey's stock was way higher than it was. $5 Million guaranteed is a lot of money for a guy who was at risk of being out of the league. He has a lot to prove before he's going to be able to negotiate at that level. Plus this is basically $5 Million for a season and a third. In case it wasn't clear this isn't an extension. It's a conversion.
    Your read on this seems pretty mistaken. There was a lot of interest in him after Philly cut him for Montrezl, going for an older player. Bassey picked the Spurs in good part because of his ties here, but also to develop. You're making it sound like the Spurs picked him up at an orphanage. The Spurs have given him a contract because they like what they see. This isn't a charity case. He's shown legitimate promise.

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    People think Bassey's stock was way higher than it was. $5 Million guaranteed is a lot of money for a guy who was at risk of being out of the league. He has a lot to prove before he's going to be able to negotiate at that level. Plus this is basically $5 Million for a season and a third. In case it wasn't clear this isn't an extension. It's a conversion.
    Sure but last two non-guaranteed years remain a bit surprising. No matter his stock you'd think Bassey (and his agents) would let a door open and give themselves a chance in case he shows good things on the floor... But maybe that's all spurs were ready to offer or there's a gentleman's agreement in case if he indeed performs well, spurs might offer him a better contract (or let him go for a better one) when the team option starts, I don't know.

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    Great news!

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    Why are we complaining about what will
    amount to the new vet minimum salary after the next TV deal?

    It’s a great get, and proof of concept to other g-leaguer that there is, indeed, a path to the pros of you come to SA.

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    Side question: Do tie breakers come into play for determination of “seed” in lottery? I know if say for example DET/SA have the same record their odds will just be split, but seeding still matters for determining how far a team can fall. So is it a coin toss in the event of a tie or is their H2H tiebreakers?
    Coin toss, and 2nd round in reverse order.

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    Sneaky conversion. He’ll get salary floor money on top of his partial year salary.

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    Easy alley oop for Scoot

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    Coin toss, and 2nd round in reverse order.
    I guess that makes sense - feels like it may come to that with DET/SA

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    This is the first full year of a multi year rebuild. The Bassey signing is one of the good outcomes from a good Year 1.

    The Spurs are doing well on multiple levels. Positive cap situation. Converted some out-of-timeline vets for draft equity, including an FRP in a market that was very stingy about trading FRPs. Keldon Johnson will be a good trade piece in the near future. Vassell and Sochan are very likely key contributors to the next Spurs playoff team. Branham and Wesley each show a different kind of promise--good draft selections, both. And both two-way guys from this season could become inexpensive but impactful bottom rotation players.

    The Spurs are building "corporate knowledge" with key bench positions. I'm looking at you, Tre Jones.

    And barring an injury, the rest of the season, including the end of June when Spurs might still lease their cap space for additional assets, should produce more reason for optimism, especially if the team has good lottery luck.

    Put differently, the Spurs are already putting together a better rebuild than the Rockets and Hornets. The Thunder, Magic, and Pistons are doing fine too, although they've been at it longer. As a fan, I'm pleased.

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    Yeah, I thought I'd give your wife a break . . .
    Yeah she told me you keep messaging when your husband isn't around. Perhaps he should step his game up in that area tbh. He know your into chicks now?

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    What does that mean? That he’s no longer on a 2way contract?

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    I guess that makes sense - feels like it may come to that with DET/SA
    I guess the good news, at least is that a tie for 2nd would not impact the odds (Whereas a tie for third would). So a tie for second still gets you the same odds at 1-4, but obviously open up the pathway to drop lower.

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    I guess the good news, at least is that a tie for 2nd would not impact the odds (Whereas a tie for third would). So a tie for second still gets you the same odds at 1-4, but obviously open up the pathway to drop lower.
    Ya - all that ultimately matters is being in bottom 3 here as far as optimal odds. But definitely finishing 2nd to last or 3rd to last has its perks too

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    Why are we complaining about what will
    amount to the new vet minimum salary after the next TV deal?

    It’s a great get, and proof of concept to other g-leaguer that there is, indeed, a path to the pros of you come to SA.
    This board was complaining when Poeltl was signed for $9 mil a year, which instantly showed itself to be a bargain.

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    With Bassey moving up to the big team, are the spurs interested in signing anyone to the vacated 2 way spot or is it too late in the season for that ?

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    This could be the steal of the year for the Spurs in terms of locking in a young player who has a lot more to give as he gains experience with playing time in the big show. I hope they lock in Barlow as well.

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    Considering we paid DeMarre Carroll like $15M to play 15 games and raid Madonna's wardrobe....getting a young, talented big for $10M over 4 years seems like a no-brainer at this point.

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    Side question: Do tie breakers come into play for determination of “seed” in lottery? I know if say for example DET/SA have the same record their odds will just be split, but seeding still matters for determining how far a team can fall. So is it a coin toss in the event of a tie or is their H2H tiebreakers?
    It's just record as far as I can remember.

    Your read on this seems pretty mistaken. There was a lot of interest in him after Philly cut him for Montrezl, going for an older player. Bassey picked the Spurs in good part because of his ties here, but also to develop. You're making it sound like the Spurs picked him up at an orphanage. The Spurs have given him a contract because they like what they see. This isn't a charity case. He's shown legitimate promise.
    My read seems to be accurate, given that I'm not surprised by his contract and other are. Teams being "interested" in him doesn't mean anything given he had to settle for a two-way contract rather than guaranteed money. I'm not saying he's a bad prospect, especially in his lane as detritus/meh flier. He got two guaranteed years, which is more than players on Hinkie specials usually get. But folks thinking he had the cachet to ask for a deal where he'd go to free agency immediately are off-base. I mean, obviously he could've taken a one-year deal for the rest of the season at the min or stayed on the two-way. He's a guy who didn't have NBA money and wasn't a shoe-in to get it. Of course he was going to jump at the chance.

    Sure but last two non-guaranteed years remain a bit surprising. No matter his stock you'd think Bassey (and his agents) would let a door open and give themselves a chance in case he shows good things on the floor... But maybe that's all spurs were ready to offer or there's a gentleman's agreement in case if he indeed performs well, spurs might offer him a better contract (or let him go for a better one) when the team option starts, I don't know.
    Bassey doesn't have team options. He has non-guaranteed years. The Spurs might renegotiate and extend Bass in a few years if the cir stances line up, but they can't decline his option and offer a new contract ala Jokic. They'd have to cut him, and if he's that good, he'd be claimed. But seriously, his market value is getting quite inflated. To put it into perspective, he had about the same value as say Samanic did when cut and has about cachet now than KBD did when he got his current deal from the Spurs. He has way less than Bryn Forbes did coming out of summer league (and obviously less on Bryn's second contract).

    It's okay to be hopeful. I'm hopeful, even if I don't see the special player some might assume from his stats. But the move should be thought of for what is it: a relatively inconsequential transaction that was just a team with the means doing due diligence and taking advantage of their leverage and cap space to take a smart gamble. It's neither surprising nor a coup. Sure, guys like Covington and Dort end up being bargain contracts, but Hinkie offered such deals to numerous players, most of whom did not survive the length of their contracts. The Spurs should absolutely look to do more of them, because the risk:reward is great. But center is no more of a settled position at this point than it was before. They should be looking to upgrade over Bassey just as Philly did.

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    Considering we paid DeMarre Carroll like $15M to play 15 games and raid Madonna's wardrobe....getting a young, talented big for $10M over 4 years seems like a no-brainer at this point.
    Are Spurs still paying DeMarre?

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    Why are we complaining about what will
    amount to the new vet minimum salary after the next TV deal?

    It’s a great get, and proof of concept to other g-leaguer that there is, indeed, a path to the pros of you come to SA.
    I don't think a single person complained. Managing expectations is a completely different thing. In retrospect, that Wieskamp and especially Ca didn't get this treatment last year should've been a huge red flag for their future with the team. You can see with literally no leverage gets you by looking as Wieskamp's deal with Toronto. Next year is completely non-guaranteed with RFA rights at the end of it. Bassey got 10 times as much guaranteed money, and folks are thinking there was a chance he was going to turn that down?

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    Are Spurs still paying DeMarre?
    Yep. Should be getting twice-monthly checks until 2025. He's not hitting SA's cap anymore at least.

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    Nice to see you present a view, opinion or brain fart that wasn’t a 1000 word paragraph.
    My pleasure! I'm trying to keep it simple for our less educated posters, glad you're enjoying it

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    Yeah she told me you keep messaging when your husband isn't around. Perhaps he should step his game up in that area tbh. He know your into chicks now?
    I say this with an unblemished record of staunch heterosexuality: At making a gay joke in '23, as if there's anything wrong with that . . . and another for your instead of you're.

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    Am I the only one who wants him to be the starting Center? This is exactly what the Spurs should do, lock these type of players up on cheap deals, favorably declining to use more of the cap space now. I don't see him as a trade asset, I think he's a legit part of the future, even if it just means backing up Wembenyama
    His game is smooth man, when you see him in person. Got a really nice touch from mid and 3. Has skills to develop an inside game. I told the board he could have dropped 50 in that Austin Spurs game the other day. Big upside.

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