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    I knew Poodle was a decent player but lets put things into perspective they were playing against a bottom 5 team so not a real challenge. I think though it was a decent trade for both teams not what I wanted but “You get what ya Get and ya don’t throw a Fit”. I wish him the best and I hope when he takes out a girl on a date to see a movie she doesn’t get stabbed like his last date did in San Antonio.
    WTF? This ain't a story I recall hearing on spurstalk... Got a link?

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    At Craptors fanboy excited for the inevitable rush of Poeltl blurbs in articles/podcasts and on tv from the usual suspects.

    Those treadmill addicts are headed straight for a play-in berth and possible 8th seed/round 1 curb stomping at the hands of the Celtics/Bucks, where they'll pretend they accomplished something while throwing away the high pick the league was going to hand them again.

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    WTF? This ain't a story I recall hearing on spurstalk... Got a link?
    https://foxsanantonio.com/news/local...a-spurs-player

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    He occasionally has good games.
    He's definitely a good player and probably worth a bit more than we got, but lets see how many more "good games" he has this season before anyone gets sellers remorse.

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    At Craptors fanboy excited for the inevitable rush of Poeltl blurbs in articles/podcasts and on tv from the usual suspects.

    Those treadmill addicts are headed straight for a play-in berth and possible 8th seed/round 1 curb stomping at the hands of the Celtics/Bucks, where they'll pretend they accomplished something while throwing away the high pick the league was going to hand them again.
    Your Toronto issue is fascinating to observe.

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    atrocious deal, but oh well, we aren't attempting to win games any time soon

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    WTF? This ain't a story I recall hearing on spurstalk... Got a link?
    It is purported a chubby Asian guy who looks like the yellow M&M did this. He was wearing a custom Spurs jerssey marked “s bag” TD 21


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    It is purported a chubby Asian guy who looks like the yellow M&M did this. He was wearing a custom Spurs jerssey marked “s bag” TD 21

    At Craptors fanboy, continues to be obsessed with and wrong about my appearance and race.

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    He's definitely a good player and probably worth a bit more than we got, but lets see how many more "good games" he has this season before anyone gets sellers remorse.
    it looks like we are agreeing here.

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    Looking at TORs financial situation and roster composition how tf is this not a quarter season rental?

    Even if the Raps could afford to sign Poeltl there is a logjam on bigs.

    Does Poeltl hit open FA this summer?

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    That raptors pick will be well into the 20s next year. The Raptors have a deep team.

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    Raptors le team??
    *on track to being good enough to be a key contributing starter on an nba le team

    whether or not he rings would be up to the rest of the team, sir isaac

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    Looking at TORs financial situation and roster composition how tf is this not a quarter season rental?

    Even if the Raps could afford to sign Poeltl there is a logjam on bigs.

    Does Poeltl hit open FA this summer?
    No way IMO. Why make that deal if you aren’t prioritizing him? OG finally traded in off season during draft?

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    That raptors pick will be well into the 20s next year. The Raptors have a deep team.
    Then why isn't that the case this year? It's the same players...

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    Since the Raptors didn't trade FVV or Gary Trent you have to expect they will try to keep them. FVV is looking for a 5 year max contract (which I don't think he'll get), but will assuredly get something close to $40 million/year. Trent probably $25 to $30 million per year. If they re-sign Poeltl (which I expect) it is likely $18+/year. No one is going to give the Raptors a hometown discount since Raptor's players pay the highest income tax of any team's players in the league. Even if they trade the OB they'll have to likely take some salary back. Then the following year comes Pascal's new contract. Ouch! They will be repeat tax offenders for the foreseeable future after that. If they don't improve their play that will be an expensive buck for a firecracker bang.

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    No way IMO. Why make that deal if you aren’t prioritizing him? OG finally traded in off season during draft?
    Either OG or Pascal will have to move if they're resigning everyone else I'd think

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    Then why isn't that the case this year? It's the same players...
    Injuries
    I expect them to climb up the standings down the stretch run when they get their players back and Poeltl also adding more front court depth.

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    I expect them to climb up the standings down the stretch run when they get their players back and Poeltl also adding more front court depth.
    I honestly haven't followed them close enough to know their injury situation. I've watched them play a few times before the Jak Trade and they just didn't look like a cohesive team to me. My guess would have been chemistry issues for one reason or another..

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    Since the Raptors didn't trade FVV or Gary Trent you have to expect they will try to keep them. FVV is looking for a 5 year max contract (which I don't think he'll get), but will assuredly get something close to $40 million/year. Trent probably $25 to $30 million per year. If they re-sign Poeltl (which I expect) it is likely $18+/year. No one is going to give the Raptors a hometown discount since Raptor's players pay the highest income tax of any team's players in the league. Even if they trade the OB they'll have to likely take some salary back. Then the following year comes Pascal's new contract. Ouch! They will be repeat tax offenders for the foreseeable future after that. If they don't improve their play that will be an expensive buck for a firecracker bang.
    $40M per year for FVV? Toronto isn’t paying him that without the threat of someone else using their cap room to do so, and no one but us does have that kind of room.

    They may just be waiting for the summer trade market for FVV and GTJ.

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    ^ Gramps nailed it.

    Raps have dealt with injuries and poor roster construction this year. They have the assets to retool though. One of FVV/GTJ is out the door I bet. One of OG, Siakim and Barnes are probably going to be moved also though I doubt it’s Siakim or Barnes.

    Raps salary cap isn’t great but very manageable. They are in a position to facilitate trades for GTJ and FVV. One has to go so those two are actually in comp to take a discount if they want to stay.

    Jak is probably a longer term piece for them but also becomes a S&T asset if they can’t come to an agreement.

    Failed season for sure but they have lever to pull to keep part of the squd together and upgrade.

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    No need to speculate, Masai explicitly said he didn't pull the trigger because the deals he was expecting weren't there, and that they'd wait until the offseason. Personally I think Masai is going for a king's ransome for his players, I might lower my expectations a little bit. Also I wouldn't go over 30M for Van Vleet, and would hesitate to pay more than 20M for Gary Trent Jr.

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    van vleet may wind up becoming the consolation for whatever team does not wind up with kyrie.

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    Nice try. They've been relatively healthy, they're just not good. They're the definition of a treadmill team, only they're in bed with the media like no one this side of the Warriors, so they're hyped and disseminated to the masses as if they're any more relevant than the others who are routinely ridiculed.

    They did pretty much what I said they'd do at the trade deadline. I'd laugh if injury prone Anynoby tears something and/or someone outright signs Van Cheat (Magic?) or Trent Jr., leaving them again holding the bag.

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    Man this looks so depressing on paper:

    Leonard became —>

    Keldon
    Birch
    Branham
    23 SRP TOR
    24 FRP TOR
    24 SRP LAL
    25 FRP CHI
    25 SRP CHI
    25 SRP TOR

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    Man this looks so depressing on paper:

    Leonard became —>

    Keldon
    Birch
    Branham
    23 SRP TOR
    24 FRP TOR
    24 SRP LAL
    25 FRP CHI
    25 SRP CHI
    25 SRP TOR
    You’re depressed because the trade turned out to be for 4 FRPs, and a pocket full of seconds? That’s much better than it looked on trade day.

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