Would you be happy with that if SA lands 3? Is his feel for the game and passing enough for him to be a legit Ben Simmons type PG?
Man, missing out on top 2 pick is going to make things dicey; not just because you miss out on what look like great pieces, but because the others are raw and wont help winning for a long while. If you land Wemby or Scoot, with the extra picks SA can use to trade and cap situation you can be fighting for legit PO team in 2-3 years.
If you miss out on top 2 pick this year and go Amen? You are likely 3-5 years out…..
I remember reading a breakdown on Amen Thompson's percentages on jumpers and finishing at the rim, and they were ATROCIOUS. Like me kind of bad. Unfortunately I can't find them right now, if anyone can get a hold of them, I'd appreciate it. Point being, I don't care if you've got wings on your feet, if you're 20 and can't finish or shoot worth a lick against high schoolers, I'm not wasting a pick on you, much less no. 3.
Or never.
He sounds like if Wiggins & Evan Turner had a baby lol
I refuse to be fooled by deer anymore. If you can’t play basketball in your peer group at a high level, IDGAF how high you can jump. Cam Boozer is DESTROYING the same comp the Thompson’s are coasting through at FIFTEEN years old. I’d pick him second in this years draft if he were eligible, and his draft class and ATL’s struggles may make that 2026 swap the most valuable asset in our war chest.
I'd like to see monthly splits for Sochan and Smith. Sochan really turned a corner at some point.
More than anything, Jeremy has shown a platform of skills that are really intriguing, even if not fully realized yet. The stats themselves are a bit less important in themselves.
The drop off from Scoot to Amen is so steep that I couldn't say I'd be happy. But if the Spurs get the third pick, the rest of the field is so meh that I wouldn't mind a homerun swing by taking Amen. I'm hoping someone else rises to become a better third pick but right now I don't see that person.
It's possible. Amen's ceiling is superstar. Unfortunately, Amen's floor is like current broken Ben Simmons.
Yeah, he finishes something like 40% of his shots at the basket in non-transition situations. Basically, the same issue that plagued Blake Wesley at Notre Dame. Rolling the dice on Wesley at 25 though is a lot easier to do than rolling dice at 3.
prayingdog.jpg @ someone like Brandon Miller fortifying the third pick.
Ausar is likely a top ten pick, too. He might actually have a higher floor than Amen because he plays defense and his shot isn't as broken. But Amen is more athletic and has natural court vision you can't teach.
In a disaster scenario where the Spurs end up with pick five or six, would I endorse picking Ausar? Eh, maybe. I want to say no but the college crop is so underwhelming this year. Someone like Keyonte George is near the head of the class and he can't create clean looks consistently at the college level, shoots ~38% from the floor and has an even turnover-to-assist ratio. If the pick is between George and Ausar, for example, it'd be difficult to be mad if the Spurs go with Ausar, tbh.
Thankfully there's still time for a college player or two to separate themselves. As it stands, this draft is great at 1 and 2 but falls off a damn cliff after that.
IF Amen somehow was seen as a culture fit with the Spurs I could see them being intrigued by the raw talent. So he would need to be somewhat humble, have a strong work ethic, and have good family upbringing and support. I think that’s the overlooked but most important criteria for the Spurs to take him.
But I don’t follow him closely so I have no idea as to him as a person.
As I've said all along, when the league screws them, if they're at 3 or 4, Amen Thompson (Iguodala?) or if they're at 5 or 6, Black (Daniels?) seem the most likely.
Either would be disastrous because anything lower than 2 would be for the team most in need of one of the top two.
Tier 1: Wemby, Tier 2: Scoot, Tier 3: Amen Thompson and Brandon Miller, Tier 4: Pick 5-15, maybe 5-20. The players pick 5 and after aren't bad prospects so as much as they are just roughly the same quality of player. invariably, a future all star will emerge from the group, but it will be hard for any front office to predict who that player will be.
If Spurs have bad luck in lottery, they should consider trading down for additional assets.
I'd still take Brandon Miller at#3 for his potential and the impression I have that he's the kind of dedicated guy who will do what it takes to reach that potential. I don't know, he looks like a spur to me, seems humble and poised, which could be a good thing next to a "crazier" Sochan, Tim/Manu style.
I wouldn’t mind SA trading the pick then….I know that is next to impossible to do (trade a top 3 pick) but if its on the table wonder what it would take?
Miller has grown on me a little recently but I still like Black. Black has Sochan type hustle and intangibles, good court vision, nice flow in his game and his offensive has been improving all season long.
Honestly, why do the Thompson twins gain much more attention than, say, Dariq Whitehead? For all of his struggles, he's about the same size, a very good athlete, already competing at a high level, can REALLY shoot (over 40% from 3 & 90% from the line). Sure, he's struggled with efficiency, he's been injured often... but, for my money, if you're going for upside he seems a much more sensible gamble at the late lottery, than any of the Thompson twins at top 5.
So I sold myself. I'm adding Dariq Whitehead to the trade down candidate bunch.
Probably two picks between 6 and 12...and that depends on 'if' the Chicago pick conveys to Orlando and 'if' they really like Amen or Smith Jr..
They're higher level athletes with no injury history... I will say that if Dariq Whitehead can stay healthy somebody is going to get a steal if he stays in the range he's in now in most mocks.
God this lottery is so freaking massive. Please land in the top 2. I don’t know that anyone would trade pick 2 and Scoot would they?
No....nobody is trading 1 or 2..... those are gold..
We know for sure no one is trading Wemby…agree there. Just wondering if Scoot could be had…
Say CHA or DET - team with lead guards already, land 2. Would they trade Scoot for Pick 3, unprotected future 1st & Keldon?
are we still really taking this kind of stuff seriously?
I don't think so...they'd move one of their other guards first...
im guilty of it myself, but i feel like people are overthinking brandon miller. imo he probably goes #3 and no later than 4. just looks like one of those guys that can come in day 1 and average 15+ in his sleep. that alone with his size makes him a pretty high floor pick and its not like he doesnt have upside either
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