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May be in the minority but I really like that Strawther dude frm Gonzaga if he is available to us when we pick in the second; has a nice all around game and I think would fit in well here.Same for Tubelis from Arizona.
I agree….just hoping. Lol or someone falling in love with Brandon Miller and talking themselves into him as time goes on because they have guards and taking him 2. Far fetched.
I’m nervous man….going to be a wreck on May 16th. 3 freaking months to go.
May be in the minority but I really like that Strawther dude frm Gonzaga if he is available to us when we pick in the second; has a nice all around game and I think would fit in well here.Same for Tubelis from Arizona.
I'm not that nervous because I think the talk on ST that this is a poor draft after #2 is nonsense... don't get me wrong, I definitely want to be in the top 2 because the drop-off is steep there but, that's not because of the guys that are 3-8, it's because the top 2 are generational talents...
What good is athleticism for when it doesn't help you score, and it doesn't help you keep others from scoring? I'd rather have a very good athlete who has professional level skills, than a (supposedly) "better athlete" who underwhelms against 17 year olds. Let me put it this way: In order to label someone "injury prone", you need a repeated series of serious injuries with a causal connection. Landing awkwardly can happen to anyone due to chance, so there's a possibility Whitehead's recent injuries are a fluke and not indicative of an underlying issue.
On the other hand, being completely unable to shoot or finish (against 17 year olds) is much harder to chalk up to mere chance, and that IS a glaring reflection of a very serious flaw in a fundamental skill in modern basketball, that can nowadays render unplayable even the (otherwise) most gifted of basketball players.
And that doesn't even take into account their projected range on the board.
So let me say this again: I'll take my chances on Whitehead suffering an uncharacteristically close sequence of injuries as a low lottery pick, than both Thompson twins being able to transfer what they can do from high school to pros, and learning what they can't even do amongst their peers in the first place. For my money, it's a much better bet, and I'd hate for us to put all of our stock on the Thompson's fate. I'd feel really, really nervous if that were the case. Hope it doesn't come to that.
That's certainly one way to look at it.... if Amen was on the board and I wanted Whitehead then I'd trade back and get more assets..
Yeah I'm feeling the same. A lot riding on this.
I don't have a problem with the Spurs taking a chance on the Thompson twins... I have a problem with the Spurs using their ONLY, VERY HIGH chance on the Thompsons. So if it comes to that, yes, I'm on the "trade back and pick more assets" camp. And if one of said assets ends up being a twin, so be it... but please not the whole of it. It's way, way too risky.
I think the Thompson's have a very high ceiling but there's a lot of risk...I wouldn’t pick them in tne top 6...after that...maybe..
This goes without saying, but there truly is a TON riding on these ping pong balls. Last year, landing in the Top 4 still meant you were getting a talented big with potential (albeit with very different skill sets). This year, the gaps are large as folks have pointed out and the fits are varied.
If you land Wemby:
- I'd imagine the Spurs will want him at PF which kicks Sochan to the 3 or situationally a 5 and backup 4.
- You're likely rolling with Tre and Devin as your starting backcourt and Bran as your backup flex guard. Between the three of them, the majority of the 96 minutes can get eaten up. You just need someone to maybe soak up 10 of them or so.
- Keldon probably kicks to the bench, which might be a good place for him anyway
- You're hoping Collins/Bassey can be a reasonable C duo
- With so many picks on the horizon, you're going to find yourself in a few years with a logjam of guards and wings, and some guys are going to need to be moved/upgraded.
- This is a great position to be in.
If you land Scoot:
- You've solidified the 1
- The rest of the lineup pretty much it what it is now, but at least you've got a lead PG to build around.
- You likely aren't seeing huge improvement in Scoot's rookie year and are again a bottom 6-8 team looking to add a key piece in next year's draft, but you'd also likely got a TOR pick coming your way in addition to all the other future picks. Lots of more bites at the apple to quickly build around Scoot.
If you land 3-7
- Well ... you're pretty much the same team as you are now, but with one more young unknown to develop. Back to the hard tank (as in, we better have a bottom 3 record next season)
Yeah, it's no so much that some of these guys are not intriguing, it's that you need a home run. Not like the glorious days where you could take flyers on #29 picks. Wouldn 't be surprised if Withmore (my personal lil' crush after Miller) finishes top #5. Could be a risky reach tho.
My dream scenario if we pick at 3, would be that Orlando picks at 4 or 5 and is infatuated with Amen Thompson. Trade back a spot, pick up an extra lottery pick, and come out with Brandon Miller and Cam Whitmore. And if you feel like taking an extra gamble, maybe figure out a way to add Dariq Whitehead or GG Jackson for that "swing for the fences", Blake Wesley type.
Sign me in. If Wright can end up with with Miller and Withmore with #3, he's already GM of the year and I wash his car for free til the next decade.
Spurs won't be taking either Thompson. Not the type of players they draft. Highly athletic talents with questionable shooting are not who they draft.
you don't know who Wright will take or what the new owners want. Stop, the spurs have not picked this low since the early 1990s! WE might even have a new coach in waiting.
The spurs also won't trade the pick. no one is going to trust the spurs and will give us offers.
Scoot coming up next in the rising star against Sochan's team,
Let's see how he hangs with the NBA talents
i mean sure if you ignore Wesley, DeJounte, Kawhi, LJC
He’s an odd duck. He’s going to have an NBA 3 pointer, but he might have to be a specialist. His assist/TO is a fraction, which should never happen unless you’re a traditional big. His FTs are 93%, but he shoots less than one per game. His advanced stats are awful. Some to like, but a lot of skill/play flags.
We had someone that bought a slice of the team, but the Holt younger generation are still the managing partners.
Scoot lowering that value lol
Now I want Miller for the 2nd pick lol
Don’t look now, but Chicago currently has a 32% chance to jump into the top 4, and snatch that second lottery pick back from Orlando, at least for another year.
I’ll respect that you said “dream scenario”. Because no one after 1 and 2 is good enough to justify giving up two lottery picks for.
You might trade the 3rd pick back for a mid lottery and mid 20 pick. That’s probably possible.
Not really sure why the Ignite guys are in the Rising Stars. I get the league is marketing the little league, but the difference between them and even rookie NBA players is stark.
Nobody would trade the third pick for that...
https://thedatajocks.com/nba-draft-pick-values/
There's a statistical value chart on what picks are worth in a trade down scenario.. teams have their own data on this too..
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