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    I mean, it's an All-Star game. You're supposed to have fun.

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    Scoot looked like the best player on the floor tbh

    to me, either the #1 or #2 pick is a win. What’s that? 28% chance?

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    Scoot looked like the best player on the floor tbh

    to me, either the #1 or #2 pick is a win. What’s that? 28% chance?
    Yup. Full odds by position for anyone interested. Even have a terrible random draft pick generator which always had SA landing 4-6 lol

    https://www.tankathon.com/pick_odds

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    Not high enough odds lol. Mentally preparing for the 3rd pick to 6th. In which case I would be happy with more players who play versatile and have upside that isn’t apparent right away (like Sochan).

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    Jarace Walker
    Keyonte George
    Cam Whitmore
    GG Jackson

    Any of these guys if we land outside the top 2 and I’m satisfied tbh

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    Jarace Walker
    Keyonte George
    Cam Whitmore
    GG Jackson

    Any of these guys if we land outside the top 2 and I’m satisfied tbh
    I wanna trade back if we're outside the top 2....we can still get one of those guys and another player

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    Not high enough odds lol. Mentally preparing for the 3rd pick to 6th. In which case I would be happy with more players who play versatile and have upside that isn’t apparent right away (like Sochan).
    Just expect one of those later picks. I haven't looked at a single Wembanyama things - vids or otherwise - all year.

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    I wanna trade back if we're outside the top 2....we can still get one of those guys and another player
    I’ve already mentally prepared that we’re landing outside the top 2… thinking we’ll get additional value from trading that pick afterwards is doing the reverse again and putting hope in something that’s even less likely to happen than our 28% chance of getting a top two pick.

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    I’ve seen Jarace Walker fly up some mock drafts recently, real potential? And would he fit next to Sochan, Vassell, etc?

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    Jarace’s defensive metrics are through the roof right now. Not sure if he keeps it up but if he does, he might be the best defensive prospect in a decade. I’d rather bet on building from a player who is exceptional on defense than just good offense (Brandon Miller). Brandon would have to have top scorer in the NBA upside for me to pick him, and right now I don’t see it. Maybe it changes next month. So I’m gambling on the guy we can develop into a two way player.
    Last edited by Dejounte; 02-18-2023 at 03:33 PM.

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    I’ve already mentally prepared that we’re landing outside the top 2… thinking we’ll get additional value from trading that pick afterwards is doing the reverse again and putting hope in something that’s even less likely to happen than our 28% chance of getting a top two pick.
    I'm not putting hope in anything...the odds are against any move really....it's just what I'd like to see happen if we're in that spot....there are no expectations though.

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    I’ve already mentally prepared that we’re landing outside the top 2… thinking we’ll get additional value from trading that pick afterwards is doing the reverse again and putting hope in something that’s even less likely to happen than our 28% chance of getting a top two pick.
    How is picking a bunch of guys projected to be available 5 to 10 picks later value? I don't mind GG Jackson at all, but him at 3 - 5 right now is asinine. Like Mo said, at the very least trade back and get picks. Otherwise it's Primo all over again, but worse. I'd rather trade the pick away if that's the route we'll go.

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    Call Utah and trade them your pick for theirs, or Indiana, or Orlando, or if this is a weak draft and you're not confident in any of the guys in your range, trade it for a future unrestricted pick to, say, Charlotte, Detroit, or whomever. But don't settle for crap at 3-5. That's just disheartening.

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    Arkansas has struggled this year, both with injuries and mediocrity. They're handling Florida pretty easily today.

    Nick Smith is still getting his legs back. So far he's looked slight and cannot get a lot of separation. I'll wait on any judgment.

    Anthony Black just destroyed Florida ballhandlers two possessions in a row in one-on-one fullcourt presses. I know he still lags behind in many boards, but he does so much. Sure, his shot needs work, and he doesn't land his passes quite enough -- but he's a superior defender, his vision is often eye-popping. Then there are minor things. He draws a good amount of fouls, averaging 5 FTAs a game. He has a 3.1% steal rate. I found this article that's pretty interesting about that metric correlating to future succes:

    https://medium.com/unpluggd-mag/the-...s-fbc8d668e9fa

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    Watched a bit of Kentucky, saw people blow by Cason Wallace or hit 3s in his face... granted, it was a very small sample, but wasn't very impressed with purported Jrue 2.0

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    How is picking a bunch of guys projected to be available 5 to 10 picks later value? I don't mind GG Jackson at all, but him at 3 - 5 right now is asinine. Like Mo said, at the very least trade back and get picks. Otherwise it's Primo all over again, but worse. I'd rather trade the pick away if that's the route we'll go.
    Because I don’t share the same philosophy you or others do. If you covet a player, you take him without risk losing the chance to get him. You trade down, you risk another team getting that player. Other times, there weren’t any realistic trades on the table and folks get upset the team drafted a player they “could have gotten later”. I’m not so obsessed with getting incremental value especially when there’s risk involved. Most view roster management like it’s trading cards and squeezing what they can out of every asset while ignoring the nuances behind every move. It’s the Daryl Morey style of management, and I’m glad the Spurs are not close to being that.

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    Not high enough odds lol. Mentally preparing for the 3rd pick to 6th. In which case I would be happy with more players who play versatile and have upside that isn’t apparent right away (like Sochan).
    Agree - pick 5 or 6 would feel like a loss but SA only has a 52% shot a top 4 pick. So it’s a coin toss between 1-4 and 5/6. Just have to get lucky. It’s going to be very nervy once we get to pick 6. Have to survive 4 agonizing envelopes

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    Jarace’s defensive metrics are through the roof right now. Not sure if he keeps it up but if he does, he might be the best defensive prospect in a decade. I’d rather bet on building from a player who is exceptional on defense than just good offense (Brandon Miller). Brandon would have to have top scorer in the NBA upside for me to pick him, and right now I don’t see it. Maybe it changes next month. So I’m gambling on the guy we can develop into a two way player.
    I beg to differ, what I 'm seeing of Miller defensively leads to me to think he can be elite on that part. Mobile, focused, nice hands and feet, quick lateral movement, anticipates well (0.9 stl) he's taller than Nephew and play a different postion (although not so sure in today's positionless NBA,) but as I already said, if commited (and he seems like that kind of guy) I see a potential elite two way player. TOs are an issue but nothing dramatic for a college player.

    I mean a 6'9 mobile, young scoring player shooting 42.5% on high volume 3s and 82.5 on FTs with great potential on defense and good mentality is what you may want in your 2023's NBA... Reason why I see him as the guy behind the big 2 .

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    I beg to differ, what I 'm seeing of Miller defensively leads to me to think he can be elite on that part. Mobile, focused, nice hands and feet, quick lateral movement, anticipates well (0.9 stl) he's taller than Nephew and play a different postion (although not so sure in today's positionless NBA,) but as I already said, if commited (and he seems like that kind of guy) I see a potential elite two way player. TOs are an issue but nothing dramatic for a college player.

    I mean a 6'9 mobile, young scoring player shooting 42.5% on high volume 3s and 82.5 on FTs with great potential on defense and good mentality is what you may want in your 2023's NBA... Reason why I see him as the guy behind the big 2 .
    He’s got a lot of Paul George in him…not sure he gets to that level, but shades of it if things break right from highlights I have seen.

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    I think Keyonte George and Gradey will both go top 8, depending on what happens to Amen and Ausar.

    Hard for me to take seriously those who say G-League is better than top level college. This Kansas-Baylor game is intense. Every play is contested, each possession matters. The crowd is loud and hostile. A thousand possessions in a individual workout circuit couldn't light a lightbulb compared to what's happening in these games.

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    Keyonte George going a little wild. These are kind of bad 3s he's taking but he's hitting.

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    I think Keyonte George and Gradey will both go top 8, depending on what happens to Amen and Ausar.

    Hard for me to take seriously those who say G-League is better than top level college. This Kansas-Baylor game is intense. Every play is contested, each possession matters. The crowd is loud and hostile. A thousand possessions in a individual workout circuit couldn't light a lightbulb compared to what's happening in these games.
    The only thing gleague is better than is OTE.

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    The thing that sucks are the odds beater leap frogs in the lottery. WSH, CHI, TOR some of these teams are leapfrogging like +8 selection slots.

    If SA gets pushed down #3-6 it better not be because GSW landed #2 on a +12 jump lol wtf

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    A Russell Westbrook who STRUGGLES AT THE RIM. What does that leave us with?
    Bright red flags.

    Amon is, uh, not someone I'd draft at 3, certainly, if I didn't make this clear. Not sure why the description of a super athletic big that can't shoot, can't finish, and can't defend is something anyone would consider at 3. Those skills are often not learned. Shooting doesn't typically become significantly more efficient. Finishing is a skill you have or you don't. And defense is about effort and desire. That is a big red flag to me.

    Look, I go off what my gut tells me and my gut says stay away at 3

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    Keyonte George going a little wild. These are kind of bad 3s he's taking but he's hitting.
    He's an absolute bucket. My concern is his matador defense. How quick would that Pop hook be.

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