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    Nah, Tariq Abdul Wahad was.
    dear god, I had forgotten about him

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    I'm surprised nobody brought up the fact that Victor grew another inch. Here's one of the articles I saw about it yesterday:

    https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bu...ht-grows-again

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    Rigaudeau was actually the first who was tested in a summer camp, he was a genius in Europe but never managed to translate that in the American League, just like Nando who is still dominating in Europe.


    But then you could argue for Hervé Dubuisson, took part in a summer league with the nets in the early 80s.
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    I don't think I've ever been more anxious about a draft, and a particular prospect to get. What a make-or-breaker, Jesus.


    At the same time, though, I can't help the feeling that he'll fall on San Antonio's lap come draft night. Silver knows what's up, and wouldn't be the first rigged draft in NBA history by any means.

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    I feel like he was made for us to carry us into our next generation . Please lord I get more excited every day

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    I don't think I've ever been more anxious about a draft, and a particular prospect to get. What a make-or-breaker, Jesus.


    At the same time, though, I can't help the feeling that he'll fall on San Antonio's lap come draft night. Silver knows what's up, and wouldn't be the first rigged draft in NBA history by any means.
    SA has struck gold with an all american and an island boy who was pretty much fully american. Houston had a notable African and chinese big men and can add to their continental HOF big collection. While the spurs have some notable french players, i think houston wins the rigged lottery. I think silver would happily force SA to tank as long as possible . I dont think he hates us, more of a neglect.

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    But then you could argue for Hervé Dubuisson, took part of a summer league with the nets in the early 80s.
    Yes you're right, but Dubuisson wasn't the same kind of player. Don't get me wrong, he was good and I loved watching him play with his crazy hair, but Rigaudeau was another level. He could have been a very good NBA player.

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    SA has struck gold with an all american and an island boy who was pretty much fully american. Houston had a notable African and chinese big men and can add to their continental HOF big collection. While the spurs have some notable french players, i think houston wins the rigged lottery. I think silver would happily force SA to tank as long as possible . I dont think he hates us, more of a neglect.
    If it’s rigged, we probably get him. I think he’s the Next Thing, and the league would want him in a good developmental environment, not someplace like Houston.

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    I don't think I've ever been more anxious about a draft, and a particular prospect to get. What a make-or-breaker, Jesus.


    At the same time, though, I can't help the feeling that he'll fall on San Antonio's lap come draft night. Silver knows what's up, and wouldn't be the first rigged draft in NBA history by any means.
    It's not rigged. The Spurs would have never landed Robinson and then also get Duncan. Team representatives are in the drawing room at the lottery.

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    Im not holding my breath we get wemby. I mean what are the odds?robinson/duncan/yama

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    Im not holding my breath we get wemby. I mean what are the odds?robinson/duncan/yama
    The last 1st pick for SA was more than 20 years ago, getting another one now wouldn’t be unfair.

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    SA has struck gold with an all american and an island boy who was pretty much fully american. Houston had a notable African and chinese big men and can add to their continental HOF big collection. While the spurs have some notable french players, i think houston wins the rigged lottery. I think silver would happily force SA to tank as long as possible . I dont think he hates us, more of a neglect.
    Wait, are you operating on the basis that the draft will be rigged on... Players' nationalities? That's an interesting POV, I guess. Not much going for it other than coincidence, though, as it'd be virtually impossible for the league to match top prospects and their nationalities with the teams that are tanking on a given year. Way too much noise in that data sample (and it also ignores the fact that the Rockettes have plenty of top, American, draftees, including their recent top-picks Jalen Green and Jabari Smith).

    I also wouldn't think that the Spurs having had past success spearheaded by American players would give them worse "rigging odds", given they've been the international players / Euro-tied team for 20 years now. If any one team can be deemed as foreign accepting and good cultivating environment, so much as to rig the draft for, it's San Antonio without a doubt.

    Of course, none of that means the draft will be rigged, I'm just musing on the optics of it.

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    It's not rigged. The Spurs would have never landed Robinson and then also get Duncan. Team representatives are in the drawing room at the lottery.
    Eh, the NBA has had enough sketchy drafts for it to be a legit possibility. What were the odds for the Cavs' third-1st-in-four-years pick, again? And the last thing that would matter is "team representatives", whoever those can be. If Silver actually wanted to rig the draft, there's a dozen ways to do it, from frozen envelopes (personal favorite) to weighted ping-pong balls.

    None of this is saying it is rigged, but there's certainly little evidence for it not being rigged, either. We'll have to wait and see if the Spurs come out with the #1 pick in order to be certain

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    All bias aside, having the most hyped prospect since Lebron get drafted by Rockets/Hornets/Pistons/Magic is a recipe for disaster.

    Looking at top10 odds as things stand right now, only the Spurs, Pacers, Raptors and maybe Blazers could be trusted with young player development. Pacers being the only other franchise with decent odds at 9.5%.

    At 14%, I don't even think about winning the lottery, but if I was a neutral I'd definitely hope Spurs win the lottery.

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    Wait, are you operating on the basis that the draft will be rigged on... Players' nationalities? That's an interesting POV, I guess. Not much going for it other than coincidence, though, as it'd be virtually impossible for the league to match top prospects and their nationalities with the teams that are tanking on a given year. Way too much noise in that data sample (and it also ignores the fact that the Rockettes have plenty of top, American, draftees, including their recent top-picks Jalen Green and Jabari Smith).

    I also wouldn't think that the Spurs having had past success spearheaded by American players would give them worse "rigging odds", given they've been the international players / Euro-tied team for 20 years now. If any one team can be deemed as foreign accepting and good cultivating environment, so much as to rig the draft for, it's San Antonio without a doubt.

    Of course, none of that means the draft will be rigged, I'm just musing on the optics of it.
    Hakeem is really iconic and the nba may prefer to drag him out rather than duncan or Drob.yao min isnt really a HOF guy but in a league desperate to avoid anti china animism it doesn't hurt to elevate him. Basically its a choice of marketing. This is where Duncan's lack of star power really bites us. Duncan likely doesn't want to mentor wemby. Its boring work.

    Fwiw i hate the current houston team,. But i do think if they get the first pick they could turn it around. Fire the coaches, hire new staff, trade for vets. Its there if they want it . I refuse to believe they want to permanent tank. They avoided tanking so long with blockbuster trades and signings .

    Spurs on the other hand are a good mentor club, but the nba will likely demand wemby star immediately and the spurs would need to get more media savvy in a hurry.

    On paper LMA and derozan were about as good as houston's harden,.mcgrady, francis teams. But all those guys were big stars at the time. San antonio makes good role players but houston gets on TV.

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    The rigged question is definitely tricky. On one hand, the league definitely have way too much influence on how the game is refereed and called, and to me it makes the game unwatchable often. As far as the actual lottery, it doesn’t totally feel like they’re playing favorites, so it’s hard to say. I would not be surprised if they were completely full of and they were doing so because corruption happens all the time with any billion dollar business, but I don’t see any obvious proof of it yet.

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    The rigged question is definitely tricky. On one hand, the league definitely have way too much influence on how the game is refereed and called, and to me it makes the game unwatchable often. As far as the actual lottery, it doesn’t totally feel like they’re playing favorites, so it’s hard to say. I would not be surprised if they were completely full of and they were doing so because corruption happens all the time with any billion dollar business, but I don’t see any obvious proof of it yet.
    You mean New Orleans being owned by the NBA and getting the 1st pick (A Davis) a month after being sold wasn’t damn obvious?

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    There’s no reason for the NBA to rig the lottery. It’s unimportant for the league, overall, where Wemby goes on his rookie contract. This is especially true since early injuries are pretty frequent (Chet Holmgren most recently.) Why should Silver, or anybody else in the league office, care where Wemby goes to sit out a year? It doesn’t matter.

    After Wemby proves to be a great player, if he does, that’s when it becomes important to the league where he is. At the time of his third contract, the league will prefer him to be in a major market, preferably LA, to maximize the audience and his value to the league. But not now.

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    There’s no reason for the NBA to rig the lottery. It’s unimportant for the league, overall, where Wemby goes on his rookie contract. This is especially true since early injuries are pretty frequent (Chet Holmgren most recently.) Why should Silver, or anybody else in the league office, care where Wemby goes to sit out a year? It doesn’t matter.

    After Wemby proves to be a great player, if he does, that’s when it becomes important to the league where he is. At the time of his third contract, the league will prefer him to be in a major market, preferably LA, to maximize the audience and his value to the league. But not now.
    This seems like a good point. Especially after the league worked hard with ESPN to steer Kawhi out of SA and to Los Angeles, they eventually got it to happen.

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    Makes me think of an NFL Subreddit a few weeks ago where paranoid conspiracy theorists were explaining every NFL game was rigged so they got the 2 teams they wanted in the Super Bowl.

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