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Cut the culture nonsesne out. Any team with Wemby will be improved. The Rockets have won championships with Hakeem.
Culture =\ where you are in the standings
All things equal (meaning if we pretend there are two Wembas in the draft) A team with Wemba #1 and a decent culture will be lifted from the bottom of the standings sooner than a bad culture team like the Rockets with Wemba #2.
Good culture allows pieces to fit. Bad culture creates chaos and instability and giving your star player more reasons to leave when their contract is up.
Cut the culture nonsesne out. Any team with Wemby will be improved. The Rockets have won championships with Hakeem.
Did I say they won’t be improved? I said it will take longer. Of course anything nuanced is nonsense to you. You view everything as black and white.
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If we get Wemb...he is not going to make much of a difference his first year as the Spurs will be very careful with him - He needs to be brought along very slow and definitely not thrown to the wolves or he will end up like Chet with a season ending injury.
Interesting clip going around on twitter of Wemby getting bullied by a shorter dude in the paint. Makes you think his position is definition more of a 3/4 than a 5.
Blue font, never thought I would see consensus #1 pick get dunked on before.
Back to reality, he is better suited for perimeter defense and weak side block shots with his current frame.
He didn’t merely get dunked on, he got bodied and bullied. It doesn’t take away from him as a prospect, but it does reinforce the idea that he is not a C at this point (which is the point you made).
I completely disagree that Wembanyama isn't a C, even currently at his weight and thin frame. His absolute best skill is rim protection and he'd be way more efficient playing drop defense the way Embiid or Jokic do instead of chasing players on the perimeter. Defensively, that is, offense is a little bit of a different manner. Point is, it's difficult to find a perfect big to pair with him because the standard rim running ones (say Duren) will occupy the space that Wemby is at his best at defensively. I'd actually say that a better rebounding Sochan would be near ideal and way better in the long run than any traditional C.
It means absolutely nothing that a 19 year old got bullied and dunked on. Of course it'll happen, who cares. But this isn't nearly as important as it has been 20 years ago and neither is it important for his team in his first couple of years in the NBA.
Wemba has never been the flawless prospect no matter what the Wemba enthusiasts say. He will be scrutinized the minute his weaknesses are exposed with all the hype surrounding him. He’s going to get bullied inside and he’s going to be blown by NBA guards on the perimeter. Those are two legitimate things that will happen no matter how many excuses others will give. Despite all that, you still draft him because the upside is legendary. You try to hide his very large (at this time) deficiencies as best you can. As noted in a previous post, he joined a team where the goal has been to make him the first option and to make his numbers look pretty. Underneath it all is a player who will show he has serious things to work on when he gets to the NBA.
I’ve NEVER thought of him as a 5, and anyone who plays him there is utilizing about 50% of his skill set. He’s a bigger Durant.
This is spot on. Given the difficulty I found finding full games of Mets 92 online, I highly doubt people here have tried to watch anything but highlights of Wemba. Here’s one:
I don’t think anyone who watches these games would call him “not a C”. Wemba barely moves his feet when guarding on the perimeter. Dude is going to get his ankles broken in the NBA if he’s going to be defending the perimeter full time. He’s noticeably orbiting the paint area because that’s where he’s more comfortable. His energy level will drop immensely if he’s tasked with defending wings and switched on guards. He was breathing heavily during the first quarter of the Ignite game. Fatigue is a concern with taller players like Wemba.
The more I watch these full games, the more I observe that Wemba is an opportunistic defender and not an engaged one. That’s a trait most commonly found in big men and not of one expected to be a perimeter defender. The intensity and energy level that’s gotta be there in today’s game of switch, switch, switch (sort of what we see in Sochan) is not there in Wemba. In some of these plays, his intensity is so low it would make Luka Samanic blush.
What he could be great at is anchoring the defense with his ability to deter shots with his length in the same manner Poeltl did or Tim did. I don’t see how he couldn’t get to Poeltl’s level easily as Poeltl wasn’t a great one on one big man defender either.
Last edited by Dejounte; 02-25-2023 at 06:34 AM.
You'll find quite a few Mets92 games on https://www.lnb.tv/
You’ve got it all wrong. They just need to bring back James Harden to right the ship.
It won't necessarily take longer either.
I will say it will take longer with San Antonio than it will with Detroit.
Detroit already has some good young players. I'd trade the current Spur roster for Detroit's.
People also thought the Rockets would be good by now. I can dig up those posts if I have to. You take an unsurprising position because you’re caught up in the present and have binary views about how things are run. I don’t know why I waste my time.
athleticism player, no athleticism player derp
culture, no culture derp
talent, no talent derp
all 1’s and 0’s. No depth, no interesting views
Wemby won't play center, if only for 2 things:
1) his body frame makes it a huge risk, as Chet's season ending injury before even stepping onto an NBA court exemplifies.
2) he said he prefers not to. That in itself will be enough for PATFO not to push it.
[QUOTE=Ariel;10869132]Wemby won't play center, if only for 2 things:
1) his body frame makes it a huge risk, as Chet's season ending injury before even stepping onto an NBA court exemplifies.
2) he said he prefers not to. That in itself will be enough for PATFO not to push it.[/QUOTE
he should get the LMA/Time special and get a fake position and just play their game. focus on mismatches on offense and give him the weakest player to defend. get at least one veteran to bang and give out fouls, maybe set wemby up to take the dominant big after they get tired, or for key positions. He's going to see a bit of everything via pick and roll coverage anyway.
Here is the vid of him getting bodied. It's just one play, but can you imagine Embiid backing him down?
(Jeff Garcia of course can be a major troll -stirrer sometimes, this is acknowledged)
year for Silas. His dad dies and he has to handle the chaotic gaggle of idiots he has as players. Cutting Porter Jr. is right. Jalen Green is an AAU hound who doesn't care about real basketball. Tari Eason was a weirdo on LSU. Eric Gordon was desperate to get out. The rest of the team are chuckers.
I feel sorry for Sengun. Somehow he has to get out of there.
Wemby will have to be protected. Chet Holmgren is built like an ox compared to him and Chet crumbled the instant LeBron James touched him on a fast break.
If we get him, he's most definitely not going to play C, at least not for a couple of years.
No point in risking anything.
Not going to lie, I'm a pessimist when it comes to his longetivity and health. Obviously winning the lottery means you must draft him, but I wouldn't be unhappy with the second pick.
Wembanyama has actually said his preferred position in the NBA is power forward and not center, which I think is the best use of his defensive skills. He'd be a much more imposing weak side helper/ free safety sort of defender than an on ball guy. The Celtics realized this last year with Robert Williams lll, and when they let him roam more he caused greater defensive havoc. If he's put on an opposing team's worst three point shooting forward, he'll be able to patrol the paint and midrange area with that 8' wingspan and has the potential to be a better version of Evan Mobley, who's a pretty great defender/DPOY candidate already with a wingspan that's 8" shorter than Wemby's.
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