Woj: Poeltl to the Raps

[Atl Spur]

Man this looks so depressing on paper:

Leonard became —>

Keldon
Birch
Branham
23 SRP TOR
24 FRP TOR
24 SRP LAL
25 FRP CHI
25 SRP CHI
25 SRP TOR

That’s a haul my guy!

[Sugus]

Man this looks so depressing on paper:

Leonard became —>

Keldon
Birch
Branham
23 SRP TOR
24 FRP TOR
24 SRP LAL
25 FRP CHI
25 SRP CHI
25 SRP TOR

Man, I hate this reductionist "deconstruction" of a trade's return. No, you can't just ignore the players we got back in the trade, and the years they played for the Spurs (which was exactly what the Spurs were going for when they made that trade, whether fans like it or not).

The Spurs got years of still-prime Derozan, years of Poeltl anchoring their defense, in return for Nephew. Those don't stop being a part of the return just because they don't play for the Spurs anymore -- were you expecting them to retire as Spurs or something? Picks ain't all there is to trades.

[XDT76]

Man this looks so depressing on paper:

Leonard became —>

Keldon
Birch
Branham
23 SRP TOR
24 FRP TOR
24 SRP LAL
25 FRP CHI
25 SRP CHI
25 SRP TOR

A player with chronic injury who has availability issue on his last year of contract turning into 4 FRP, 4 SRP and a role player. How many trades are better than this?

[Maddog]

A player with chronic injury who has availability issue on his last year of contract turning into 4 FRP, 4 SRP and a role player. How many trades are better than this?

A player who was going to leave no matter what and essentially stated he wouldn't resign with anyone but a LA team.

Look at what OKC got for Durant
Look at what Orlando got for Shaq

Of course Toronto got a le out him- albeit with incredible breaks- but a le nonetheless

[slick'81]

A player who was going to leave no matter what and essentially stated he wouldn't resign with anyone but a LA team.

Look at what OKC got for Durant
Look at what Orlando got for Shaq

Of course Toronto got a le out him- albeit with incredible breaks- but a le nonetheless

The spurs have been basically been taking what they can get. Although the Celtics and murray trade (despite the cha pick) have been pretty good

[Rocalcio]

A player who was going to leave no matter what and essentially stated he wouldn't resign with anyone but a LA team.

Look at what OKC got for Durant
Look at what Orlando got for Shaq

Of course Toronto got a le out him- albeit with incredible breaks- but a le nonetheless

I know we probably could have landed Ingram and someone else from Lakers at the time, but I’m mostly glad Pop didn’t grant Leonard the trade he wanted. Sending his ass to Toronto should also be taken into account when we discuss the benefits of this trade. He was probably pissed and that satisfy me.

[CGD]

That’s a haul my guy!

Ok, Ok, Ok. I get it guys:

Brian keeps getting it Wright

[CGD]

Man, I hate this reductionist "deconstruction" of a trade's return. No, you can't just ignore the players we got back in the trade, and the years they played for the Spurs (which was exactly what the Spurs were going for when they made that trade, whether fans like it or not).

The Spurs got years of still-prime Derozan, years of Poeltl anchoring their defense, in return for Nephew. Those don't stop being a part of the return just because they don't play for the Spurs anymore -- were you expecting them to retire as Spurs or something? Picks ain't all there is to trades.

Fair, but some would argue the Spurs should have torn it down sooner instead of getting 3-4 mediocre years with those players.

[K...]

Fair, but some would argue the Spurs should have torn it down sooner instead of getting 3-4 mediocre years with those players.

Which is dumb. There is nothing better about tanking. Were getting great value now, hard to argue trading LMA would get better outcomes.

[CGD]

A player with chronic injury who has availability issue on his last year of contract turning into 4 FRP, 4 SRP and a role player. How many trades are better than this?

It puts into perspective how good the Spurs are drafting late. Two of those vaunted FRPs were the 20th and 29th pick in their respective drafts. How many other teams screw that up?

[CGD]

Which is dumb. There is nothing better about tanking. Were getting great value now, hard to argue trading LMA would get better outcomes.

Well we're tanking now, but if there were ever a draft to do it this was the one I suppose.

[John B]

Jak playing tonight with 4pts, 4 rebounds and Raps up early, going against Valanciunas. This could be interesting for Poodle's fans

[spurraider21]

man, for the longest time i remember poeltl constantly got bodied by valunciunas. he's going off against him today

[Rocalcio]

Jak playing tonight with 4pts, 4 rebounds and Raps up early, going against Valanciunas. This could be interesting for Poodle's fans

Too bad for you, he finished with 21 points, 18 rebounds, 3 steals.

[ragas]

Jak playing tonight with 4pts, 4 rebounds and Raps up early, going against Valanciunas. This could be interesting for Poodle's fans

You nailed it

[John B]

Too bad for you, he finished with 21 points, 18 rebounds, 3 steals.

Hey I said he’s doing good early

[slick'81]

Hey I said he’s doing good early

poodle power

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Man, I hate this reductionist "deconstruction" of a trade's return. No, you can't just ignore the players we got back in the trade, and the years they played for the Spurs (which was exactly what the Spurs were going for when they made that trade, whether fans like it or not).

The Spurs got years of still-prime Derozan, years of Poeltl anchoring their defense, in return for Nephew. Those don't stop being a part of the return just because they don't play for the Spurs anymore -- were you expecting them to retire as Spurs or something? Picks ain't all there is to trades.

"Anchoring" is a strong word. Too strong given where we finished in his tenure here.

[XDT76]

Too bad for you, he finished with 21 points, 18 rebounds, 3 steals.

How did he got 18 rebounds, sometimes he can't even do that in 2 games for us.

[Mr. Body]

How did he got 18 rebounds, sometimes he can't even do that in 2 games for us.

Pretty clearly he was checked out. Also, TOR has actual floor spacers.

[exstatic]

Pretty clearly he was checked out. Also, TOR has actual floor spacers.

As a team,our 3G% is better than theirs, .341 to .335.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Pretty clearly he was checked out. Also, TOR has actual floor spacers.

They really don't, it's by far their biggest problem, which is why they're terrible at half court offense. They win by running.

[XDT76]

Pretty clearly he was checked out. Also, TOR has actual floor spacers.

Poeltl has 11 D Reb, pretty sure that has nothing to do with TOR spacers. I am not surprised by his OR. However he was known to be mediocre on DR.

[Rocalcio]

How did he got 18 rebounds, sometimes he can't even do that in 2 games for us.

14 today, I have the feeling he will get more rebounds at Toronto. Maybe the game plan implies that.

[slick'81]

Poodle power meet the klaw