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    Keldon is the odd man out Devin at 3 and malaki at 2 trade Keldon for a pg if we get wemby or for a center if we get scoot

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    Amazing how much people are exaggerating how bad Malaki is performing on defense. It’s not McDermott bad. It’s not Patty Mills bad. Just because it isn’t good, doesnt make it bad. He might be slightly below average, but he’s not bad. And then people say Vassell’s defense (at least this season) is good? I’m convinced people are still going by college scouting reports when they make analysis like this.
    Doug’s net rating this year is -11. Malaki’s is -17. Devin’s is -8.

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    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...in-free-agency

    Bey seeking 4yr/90mm. That would be an over pay but he would be a loose comp for Vassell I feel.

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    Don’t see the return of Vassell really impacting winning much. Just means less minutes for Branham.

    I could really see Branham pushing Vassell out of the starting lineup next year.
    Can't see it, maybe Branham starts if we don't get Scoot. Vassell and Sochan are mainstays in the SL moving forward. They are just in a different tier than the next guys on the roster.

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    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...in-free-agency

    Bey seeking 4yr/90mm. That would be an over pay but he would be a loose comp for Vassell I feel.
    Saddiq Bey is delusional if he thinks he can get that. He's shooting poorly and his defense has been subpar, he lost his place in Detroit's rotation and they dumped him for Wiseman. His actual pricetag based on production should be at a 30% - 50% discount from his asking price, if he doesn't want to become the next Schroeder. Unless he improves substantially in what's left of the season, he'll either have to settle for less, or (more likely), bet on himself and sign a short term contract (say 3 years 42M, the last one a player option).
    Devin, however, could definitely command that, an 80M-90M contract would be a reasonable price given his production, projection, and the way the league is going. If the Spurs can put together a front loaded contract without player options, like they did with Keldon, it's going to become a very attractive asset down the road.

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    Can't see it, maybe Branham starts if we don't get Scoot. Vassell and Sochan are mainstays in the SL moving forward. They are just in a different tier than the next guys on the roster.
    Branham is doing everything to take that starting PG position from Tre. Unlike Tre, Branham can pick and pop and just opens the lane more for the bigs to roll. He is getting better every game at ballhandling and making better decisions. Tre is the better defender, but I expect Branham to work on that harder.

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    Saddiq Bey is delusional if he thinks he can get that. He's shooting poorly and his defense has been subpar, he lost his place in Detroit's rotation and they dumped him for Wiseman. His actual pricetag based on production should be at a 30% - 50% discount from his asking price, if he doesn't want to become the next Schroeder. Unless he improves substantially in what's left of the season, he'll either have to settle for less, or (more likely), bet on himself and sign a short term contract (say 3 years 42M, the last one a player option).
    Devin, however, could definitely command that, an 80M-90M contract would be a reasonable price given his production, projection, and the way the league is going. If the Spurs can put together a front loaded contract without player options, like they did with Keldon, it's going to become a very attractive asset down the road.
    Agreed. Front loading will be key if we are in the 85-90mm range. I’d really like to see him elevate his impact on the defensive end if the floor to be a long term peice. Otherwise I still see him as very replaceable.

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    Vassell returning is important because it'll give them a greater sample size to determine what to offer him.

    Either way, long term I wouldn't concern myself with the subpar wing defense of Johnson, Vassell, Branham, who starts, etc.

    Right now, this is about collecting assets. Later on, all that can be sorted out.

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    Vassell returning is important because it'll give them a greater sample size to determine what to offer him.

    Either way, long term I wouldn't concern myself with the subpar wing defense of Johnson, Vassell, Branham, who starts, etc.

    Right now, this is about collecting assets. Later on, all that can be sorted out.
    Agreed train em up and ship em out unless they really show something. Continue to get these guys on team friendly deals and sell high when the time comes.

    Both Vassell and PATFO are inclined to see what Vassell can do to close out the season ahead of his contract negotiations.

    Wr basically have a bottom 3 position locked which is what we all hoped for. Vassell is unlikely to change that.

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    The most likely scenario probably sees Johnson traded within' 18 months while Vassell and Branham become relatively long term fixtures as a quality starter and sixth man respectively, but obviously the next few drafts will play a significant role in that.

    The more players, however flawed/ill fitting they may be, who can become starter or high end reserve caliber on entry level contracts or team friendly extensions, the more optionality they have going forward to manipulate the draft board and eventually to potentially trade for a star or elite role player at a position of need.

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    I don't trust Johnson in a playoff series. I just think he'll get scouted to on both ends.

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    I don't see Vassell as a star player, but as long as he is healthy he can easily be the #2 or #3 scoring option on a good team.

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    Devin is solid on the court. Have to be specific on spurstalk or some dumb ass will start screaming you were wrong in your assessment of him as a player��#clownstuff. Hopefully he keeps his nose clean off the court.

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    Dude is a legit three level scorer ( needs to tighten his handle though )

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    At this point there is no way even with the higher salary cap that Devin has earned a contract as big as Keldon's. I think he needs to show that he can be more consistent on both ends of the floor. He's a starter on the Spurs, but I doubt any contenders would consider him more than a 2nd or 3rd man off the bench.
    He’ll be better than Johnson as soon as he comes back

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    so, does anyone know what the status of vassell actually is?

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    so, does anyone know what the status of vassell actually is?
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    Pop says there is a loose target date for Devin Vassell to return from knee surgery: March 2 at home against Indiana, the Spurs' first game back from the Rodeo Road Trip.

    Should return soon

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    Take it easy Vassel. Let us clinch the lottery position first.

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    A loose target date means depending how the tank is looking will determine when he comes back.

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    A loose target date means depending how the tank is looking will determine when he comes back.
    You're multilingual just like Pop. English and Tankanese.

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    Take it easy Vassel. Let us clinch the lottery position first.
    we're pretty much locked in. securing top 3 is all that really matters, and charlotte in 4th has a 6 win lead over us. lamelo did good for us by going on that 5 game win streak before his ankle gave out. hopefully he comes back strong next year and that first round pick conveys too

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    Pop just said he's available tonight, along with Tre. Keldon is out though with a foot sprain.

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    Pop just said he's available tonight, along with Tre. Keldon is out though with a foot sprain.
    Yeah, Keldon being out doesn’t surprise me. He twisted it in the 4th, and frankly, I was surprised that Pop let him continue.

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    Damn Keldon is low key a tank commander but this is probably good as more chucks for Graham

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    One injured player goes out another player that was injured comes in. That's this whole season in a nuts .
    Actually saw Keldon sprain his foot and limp around a bit, so I know its not just load management by pop. So long as it wasn't serious and it helps us get a top 3 pick.

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