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Also Freshman didn’t play Varsity when Marovich played.
Any team that take him is going to get a lot of heat as more comes out of the criminal trial of his teammates - Also, I am pretty sure he is going to face a Civil Lawsuit and a lot more information will be made public regarding texts, dash cam, video, etc...It's going to be a bad look but when he plays against other team your going to hear "Lock Him Up" for awhile that is just not a good look for the team or for the NBA............
Also Freshman didn’t play Varsity when Marovich played.
Also, there wasn’t fifth year senior eligibility in Maravichs day.
That's an important "detail" and I guess that explains why he isn't charged while Davis actually is and have been removed from the team... Not making excuses either, but that is still a different story then than directly giving the loaded gun to the shooter...
Remains to be seen if he knew the purpose of all this. I suppose he made his case to Alabama people that he was just terribly stupid and irresponsible, which could be the case, no idea. But yeah, Alabama overall's dealing of the situation has been terrible, making Miller look like the victim and forgetting a young woman was killed. Same for Miller who should keep a low profile and just talk about the real victim, don't know.
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If a good friend texted you and asked you to bring a gun to a night club at a late hour, would your thinking be that it is simply a normal request and nothing bad is in the offing? If it is, you aren't smart enough to exist in a civil society.
I dunno. This will get completely buried by the sports-entertainment press. Who cares that a woman got killed? Right now they've already transformed it into a possession thing, not a murder thing.
Yet if you drive friends to a convenience store that they then hold up, you're accessory.
We got to face it that he'd be in irons right now if he wasn't a big-time Crimson Tide athlete.
What do you really know about the case? Answer nothing, except he hasn't been charged, which in the civil societies you're mentioning is how things are working... You know, Police and Justice, not people judging out of their living room in a fan board and giving moreal lessons to other members without all the elements just to make their virtuous asses...
And that's a good thing because until up yesterday, he was here supposedly the guy who directly gave the gun to the shooter and all the little judges of the forum were like: "How he isn't charged! That's accessory to murder! That's a scandal! If he wasn't a College star, he would be in jail now...!"
Yes, If a good friend texted me and asked me to bring a gun to a night club at a late hour, I wouldn't believe it's a normal thing, but I'm a smart guy, not Brandon Miller and that's why I talked about stupidity and irresponsabilty, wich doing this would imply... I don't know why he accepted... To look cool or badass, just to please a bro as a stupid young local celebrity, or because he knew about the plan.. You can be terribly stupid as a young gloryfied celebrity... that's no excuses and would obviously tell about the guy but I don't know, nor anyone here does.
And the more dangerous thing to civil societies is popular justice.
Lol wtf
Interesting who the spurs might target if they don’t land a top 2 pick. Miller and the Thompson twins don’t scream spurs guys imo
You can’t pick and choose legal battles with guns. If your white neighbor Larry asked you to bring a gun to the law firm he works at late at night no one would think twice of it. Self defense, right? Larry has a nice watch and nice car in a nice neighborhood at a nice law office.
Kyle Rittenhouse loaded up a gun and drove directly and purposely into confrontation and the gun nutters have defended him. 🤷
But it’s magically different when a young black man does it.
Again, I’m not defending Miller but it’s not any different than anything other gun owners do and they’re defended to the point of removing gun policies to make it easier to own and carry firearms.
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If you drive to your friends house and tell him it’s cool if he borrows your vehicle because you’re gonna walk to work that day and he leaves and goes to pick up a third guy who robs a convenience store you’re most likely not going to be responsible.
He wasn’t the direct line. Miller gave a gun to someone who then gave it to someone else. Being guilty by proximity or association is definitely a thing but I’m guessing when you got the actual shooter and the guy who likely loaded and provided the gun that committed the murder I’d think concentrating on that would give much greater odds of successful convictions. Which is what these people care about long before actual justice.
He was direct line. Your scenario is absurd in regard to what happened here: he brought a gun, in the middle of the night, that was used to murder a woman. At best it describes atrocious judgment. His behavior since has been awful, too.
Point is, if he's not scoring big ppg for Alabama, he's behind bars right now. We know that the South protects their financial interests first and only. Big time atheltes are a protected class.
I’m just speaking to why he’s not being charged. I don’t care for the guy or his game either.
No. He did not hand the shooter the gun. He gave the gun to miles. Who then gave it to the shooter. Pretty obvious that’s why he’s not charged and Miles is.
If you gave your brother a gun… who then gave it to your Dad… who then used it to kill your mom… then unless there is overwhelming evidence that you provided the gun for murder you’re not responsible. You had no idea when you gave the gun to your brother that he was then going to pass that gun to your dad to kill your mom.
I’m not saying I agree and perhaps he did know but it’s pretty obvious why he’s not being charged and it has nothing to do with basketball.
If he's a star in the NBA it'll get buried, just like it was with Ray Lewis. If he's a scrub then it's all anyone will talk about when his name is brought up.
I know district attorneys in the US will usually file accessory charges for much less involvement than Miller appeared to have in this murder. But it happened in the city the University of Alabama is in, the DA is a graduate of Alabama's law school, and Miller is the best player that school has had since Antonio McDyess or Latrell Sprewell and was leading them to a storybook season.
Yup. Already happening. The sports media has steered this into a conversation about possession and the gun itself. If this was a white woman or they didn't care to protect the Crimson Tide golden boy, we'd be having features on the murder victim's life.
No you don't get to say he just delivered the gun and had no way of knowing it was in the commission of a murder.
There is a cognitive expectation for Miller that delivering a gun is possibly going to have lethal consequences. We all have a societal expectation to use critical thinking, Miller isn't a re in the sense that he should have the logic to know where this is heading. It's at least criminal negligence.
What did Miller think they needed him to deliver the gun for? A doorstop? A late night gun safety class? Some innocent accuracy training or something? And if you're too stupid to know you're delivering a death sentence, maybe you're too stupid to not be legally innocent, or to earn millions of dollars in the NBA.
People want to say Miller didn't know, well maybe he didn't know to a criminally culpable level? If he so unsure of reality that he can't understand delivering a gun could lead to murder then he should be locked up in a padded room for his own safety. You don't get to say I didn't know what would happen, you delivered a gun and are an adult by now, come on. He's a danger if he understood, he's a danger if he didn't.
Biggest problem I have isn't whether he's guilty or not, that's what trial is for. But to not even have charges brought is ridiculous. Almost any other county, maybe even any other DA would have charged him as an accessory.
Agreed. It's a total coverup. Admittedly wish I knew more about the legal system but this stinks like a deliberate downplay and I don't think selling chic fil a commercials during March madness or NBA careers are worth a person's life.
Okay then.
Provide an example.
I want to see an example of charges and a conviction of someone.
Who.
Handed a gun to one person who then gave said gun to another person and was convicted of accessory.
… with a lack of evidence that points to intention.
Because right now there is zero evidence that he knew he was passing a gun to someone who was gonna pass a gun to a 3rd person to commit murder.
I’m not saying he didn’t know but I am saying there’s no evidence and your claim that it’s as regular as my morning dump just doesn’t hold up.
So provide examples.
Yep, well put. There's this peculiar way in which the victim is pushed out of the frame, as I mentioned, but then the object itself is reduced to inconsequence. A gun is a lethal item, as you say, and bringing it to a contested area like a strip in the middle of the night is not a neutral, abstract action. But somehow ESPN and the college sports media has made it into as dangerous as a bath sponge. It's amazing to see the American press at work.
Nope. It pretty transparent.
It’s a gun delivered with lethal intent when it’s a black youth.
It’s a gun delivered for self defense if it’s anyone else.
Personally I think Miller knew something was up but there’s a profound lack of evidence and white folk live in that world.
Kyle Rittenhouse knew he was headed into conflict. Sought out confrontation. Confronted and engaged a hostile environment.
Yet it’s self defense.
Then you have Miller who gave a gun to one person who then handed that gun to a 3rd person and people here want him convicted of murder or accessory to murder.
Get the outta here with that .
You don’t get to excuse when it’s white people and convict minorities because the math doesn’t add up.
That’s systemic racism in every ing form we’ve seen in the last 20 years.
So you people need to live with Miller giving a gun to someone who gave that gun to someone else.
That or hold real gun nutters to the same standards.
This whole situation sucks but it’s a prime example of gun advocates wanting to walk back their dogma when it comes to proof/evidence and minorities.
LOL why are you talking conviction when I'm just talking charges?
Whoa I don't support Kyle at all and wanted him held responsible for his role as well.
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