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    Sochan has blown away my expectations on the offensive end.

    I hate when Spurs fan use the cliche have “him work with Tim, Tony, Manu, Chip, show him Kobe tapes” etc etc but I’d love to see him spend a summer training with an elite wing defender like Bruce Bowen

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    Sochan has blown away my expectations on the offensive end.

    I hate when Spurs fan use the cliche have “him work with Tim, Tony, Manu, Chip, show him Kobe tapes” etc etc but I’d love to see him spend a summer training with an elite wing defender like Bruce Bowen
    I like the concept, but the things Bowen was allowed to do are no longer legal. He was elite at fighting through screens, which is pretty much an automatic foul now.

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    I like the concept, but the things Bowen was allowed to do are no longer legal. He was elite at fighting through screens, which is pretty much an automatic foul now.

    not to mention grabbing,holding,kicking and punching

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    Sochan has blown away my expectations on the offensive end.

    I hate when Spurs fan use the cliche have “him work with Tim, Tony, Manu, Chip, show him Kobe tapes” etc etc but I’d love to see him spend a summer training with an elite wing defender like Bruce Bowen
    Or maybe Sean can show him some Ninja moves? How about Avery with how to play General?

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    So nice to see Sochan improving by leaps and bounds as the year progresses. He's further along at this point than I thought he'd be. Despite playing about 500 fewer minutes than KJ, he has 53 dunks on the season to KJ's 21, which shows his level of aggression and special ability to find seams. Poeltl only has 18 on the season.

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    So nice to see Sochan improving by leaps and bounds as the year progresses. He's further along at this point than I thought he'd be. Despite playing about 500 fewer minutes than KJ, he has 53 dunks on the season to KJ's 21, which shows his level of aggression and special ability to find seams. Poeltl only has 18 on the season.
    But also remember Keldon is now playing SF and has improved on his 3pt shooting vs going straight to the basket. I really can’t question Keldon’s aggressiveness and motor. I do agree that Sochan is getting confident every game and it shows.

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    Can Bowen teach Jeremy his flying karate kick he did versus Wally Sczerbiak?

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    I like the concept, but the things Bowen was allowed to do are no longer legal. He was elite at fighting through screens, which is pretty much an automatic foul now.
    Yeah some of Bowen’s defense/antics has become antiquated like the hand checking and hard close outs but Bowen had the ability to lock down 1-4 and it wasn’t just due to physicality. Sochan has the archetype to also become a lockdown defender from 1-4 and has a similar cheekiness to his game.

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    Yeah some of Bowen’s defense/antics has become antiquated like the hand checking and hard close outs but Bowen had the ability to lock down 1-4 and it wasn’t just due to physicality. Sochan has the archetype to also become a lockdown defender from 1-4 and has a similar cheekiness to his game.
    Lockdown defender? No one locks the top players down. Kobe consistently lit Bowen up.

    Kobe average 26.3 points per game against Bowen.

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    Lockdown defender? No one locks the top players down. Kobe consistently lit Bowen up.

    Kobe average 26.3 points per game against Bowen.
    What was his efficiency though?

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    Lockdown defender? No one locks the top players down. Kobe consistently lit Bowen up.

    Kobe average 26.3 points per game against Bowen.
    Kobe scored 26 points on like 12 FGA against most defenders. His 26 would come on like 20 shots against Bowen, and he focused so much on scoring, that he forgot about his teammates.

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    Lockdown defender? No one locks the top players down. Kobe consistently lit Bowen up.

    Kobe average 26.3 points per game against Bowen.
    On 42.6% FG%, 27.8% 3PT%, 3.7 asts, and 3.6 TO. Numbers all worse than his career average. And that is taking into account that Kobe played against Bowen during his absolute prime, given that Bowen retired 2009.

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    On 42.6% FG%, 27.8% 3PT%, 3.7 asts, and 3.6 TO. Numbers all worse than his career average. And that is taking into account that Kobe played against Bowen during his absolute prime, given that Bowen retired 2009.
    Nailed it. Absolute prime Kobe. Not to mention Bowen gave him work on the other side of the floor a few nights between his corner 3’s and easy buckets from wicked defense.

    Sochan has the tools to become an elite defender.

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    But also remember Keldon is now playing SF and has improved on his 3pt shooting vs going straight to the basket. I really can’t question Keldon’s aggressiveness and motor. I do agree that Sochan is getting confident every game and it shows.
    His 3pt shooting has improved? I have an impression his 3pt shooting is currently terrible and has been so for an extended period.

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    His 3pt shooting has improved? I have an impression his 3pt shooting is currently terrible and has been so for an extended period.
    His 3ball has fallen off a cliff on higher volume. John B I thought asians were good at mafffs?!?

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    Kobe scored 26 points on like 12 FGA against most defenders. His 26 would come on like 20 shots against Bowen, and he focused so much on scoring, that he forgot about his teammates.
    No way, his FG% was 2.1% off his average against Bowen during the regular season 42.6% to career average 44.7%.

    But Bryant scored 28.6 pts a game against Bowen and shot 2.1% better in the playoffs against Bowen 46.8% than his career average of 44.7%. And the Lakers won 14 games in the 22 games in the playoffs Kobe vs Bowen.

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    No way, his FG% was 2.1% off his average against Bowen during the regular season 42.6% to career average 44.7%.

    But Bryant scored 28.6 pts a game against Bowen and shot 2.1% better in the playoffs against Bowen 46.8% than his career average of 44.7%. And the Lakers won 14 games in the 22 games in the playoffs Kobe vs Bowen.
    Compare it with his prime. His first few years and last few years, when he did not play against Bowen, absolutely dragged down his numbers.

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    Sochan going to get a lot of shots tomorrow.


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    How nice if he would have played in the big 3 era

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    His 3pt shooting has improved? I have an impression his 3pt shooting is currently terrible and has been so for an extended period.
    I agree that Keldon’s 3pt shooting has plummeted lately, but he was close to 40% last year from 32% the year before. And he was shooting his 3pt in high 40% at the start of the season. The Spurs are not playing good basketball right now for obvious “tanking”, with rookies, G-Leaguers and mysterios injuries. Keldon forcing his shots as primary scorer, not getting good shots. I wouldn’t read too much of it.

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    I agree that Keldon’s 3pt shooting has plummeted lately, but he was close to 40% last year from 32% the year before. And he was shooting his 3pt in high 40% at the start of the season. The Spurs are not playing good basketball right now for obvious “tanking”, with rookies, G-Leaguers and mysterios injuries. Keldon forcing his shots as primary scorer, not getting good shots. I wouldn’t read too much of it.
    Idk bro, I'm still a little worried. He's been putting up come bad bricks, even when he's wide open.

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    He is scoring more because Pop has given him the Green Light which is good because only way to get better is to keep shooting in practice and games. I would give Sochan and Branham the Green Light on shooting even when they have a bad night keep shooting and hope they improve there percentages for next season

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    Sochan going to get a lot of shots tomorrow.

    Thanks for posting. Pop had two wins and getting hate mails . We’re back to tanking es

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    Thanks for posting. Pop had two wins and getting hate mails . We’re back to tanking es
    Why are reporting on Roby? Isn't he already off the team?

    Edit: Sorry John, doesn't mean to direct this to you.

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    Why are reporting on Roby? Isn't he already off the team?

    Edit: Sorry John, doesn't mean to direct this to you.
    No worries. Any thread on the 6’11” 2nd year C Sandro Mamukelasvili? His contract is only for this season, and already Spurs have Bassey and Barlow in the pipeline. He doubt he stays after this year.

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