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I don't think we should exclude spurs taking Miller at 3. We presume they wouldn't but it's an important draft and I'm not sure Wright would care that much but could just stay pragmatical.
Neither. Neither is Drexler either, and you know that’s not the point. You draft the redundancy, and sort it out later. Remember us having too many guards? We cashed that out to the tune of 4FRPs, and two FRP swaps for two guards drafted at the tail end of the first round.
I don't think we should exclude spurs taking Miller at 3. We presume they wouldn't but it's an important draft and I'm not sure Wright would care that much but could just stay pragmatical.
I feel like Killer Miller is DUNZO in the eyes of Spurs Front Office.
Agreed. Being the kind of guy who:
1) owns a handgun as a college athlete
2) has the kind of friends who ask to borrow said gun
3) is willing to bring the gun to his friend when asked
Seems pretty disqualifying as far as the Spurs go
Edit: I'm sure there are Spurs who fall into category #1 without it ever being known. DJM seems like the kind of cat who not only likely has a few guns but would be the kind of dude to post pics with them on IG if not being being a professional athlete with at least some sense what cons utes really stupid behavior
Yeah, Ja just got suspended for SHOWING a gun in an IG Live, this kid has potential, but is nothing yet, and brought a gun used for a murder to the scene.
On basketball terms alone, Brandon Miller is at least no. 3 and it's not really close. Too bad he f'd it up. I'm looking forward to the tournament to watch some of these guys.
Last year I wanted to get multiple picks into the late lottery - late teens to get an extra guy or 2: Jalen Williams went 12, Duren 13, Mark Williams 15, AJ Griffin 16, Tari Eason 17. This year I see a similar situation, but starting earlier, say 8 or so: Cam Whitmore, Anthony Black, Jarace Walker, Keyonte George, Gradey ... all guys I'd be ok taking, but not at a top 5 pick. Again, say we land 3-5 and we're going to pass on Miller, I think our best strategy is trading back.
One option I mentioned was Orlando (if Chicago's pick conveys and both land outside top 4), they already have a bunch of youngsters and might want to consolidate their picks and get that final piece.
Another option would be a team with a mid lottery pick and some young talent, I'd take Dyson Daniels + Lakers pick (about no. 10) for no. 3, for instance (provided we pass on Miller and Scoot isn't available).
That to me seems like a much better option than taking one of the Thompson twins, or any one guy after 3 for that matter.
I like the ideas generally. I'm not fond of picking in the 3-6 range in this draft. I just don't think there's value for those picks. I don't think trading down is likely, but I'd definitely consider it.
The issue is having too many young players, but it's not like Langford is staying on his team, etc.
Orlando does have those two picks, as you say. There might be options.
I think that only works for #2, if you decide Scoot isn’t your guy You don’t trade #1, and three and below won’t pull both of those picks.
Chicago (along with TOR) is a top contender for a Silver special for a Top 2 pick - my spidey senses are telling me our CHI pick won’t be until 2026.
Theoretically if they're in love with Amen Thompson, who doesn't have his fans here but may elsewhere, or even Brandon Miller, trading the #3 for a #6 and #8 isn't beyond comprehension, if they also don't see the draft as that great. Theoretically. The Spurs might have to add something on their side, like one of those later-round firsts in the future.
More likely, if anything, is trading down and getting something else, like a future FRP or a player, in return.
I'm not one to jump on conspiracy theories, but if I were, that would make a lot of sense.
Agree, if we don't get 1 or 2, we should try to trade the pick, but trading that high a pick for future picks wouldn't help much this next incoming year. Would definitely try to trade for immediate help and future picks. Future firsts are great, but you have no clue where they will land in 3,4,5 or six years from now. Who knows, some team may get desperate and give us a small ransom for the third-fourth pick . The draft lottery can't come soon enough.
I don’t think we’re really disagreeing. I don’t think that you’re going to get a straight trade of pick 3 or below just for their two lottery picks. You’re even saying that we might need to throw something in on our side.
Scott and I have had this discussion, briefly before, but CHI has had like 8 lottery picks since The Jordan Years, and come away with only Derrick Rose as a prize. The league has shown little inclination to help them along, and in fact,if they did, that would incentivize playoff teams to tank for a year to try for a top 4 pick, something that is the opposite of what the league wants.
If we get #3 and trade down, they have to be confident they will still get their players. And there seem to be a lot of underwhelming players. And so let's say they want Anthony Black and Grady instead of Amen Thompson, it would be a huge bummer to trade back and still not get the players you want because in this particular draft I could see the quality college players actually rising. But there are always GMs on the hot seat who go for upside and a long developmental path (to prolong their job and getting fired). Ultimately, this is feeling like an underwhelming draft unless you are in the top 2.
The Spurs wouldn’t target two specific players for those picks. They would only trade back if they thought there would be 3 or 4 players high on their board who would drop to those draft slots.
As far as trading back, I would imagine after the tournament, there is will be some risers in the mocks and in some GMs minds that might jumble up what happens after two. In other words, some GM might want to reach for their guy and a deal may be able to happen?
I still say theres no chance the spurs trade out or down. Just take your top player.. we dont gain much for trading out and the spurs can absorb the fiscal hit of a bad lottery pick. They have too many picks already and trading picks Won't lead to better talent.a 3-5 pick is still the goal at this point. You dont spend a whole year being terrible and say “we deserve taking second rate talent“
Remember you will never see the spurs draft board, but you know how much effort goes into it.
Could Jarace be more than a really good role player ? that's my question actually, i really like his profile.
Agreed, i think it's really to figure out about a trade down. Imo the Spurs will trade down only if they don't have their guy, i don't see them disliking all the theorical top 8 prospects.
That was a crazy finish with UofM HOU but I felt like that was a forearm push off on the winning shot by the Cougars.
Miller has gotten better as the season has gone on. I was a little skeptical at first but he certainly looks the part of a future all-star. I think Wemby, Scoot and Miller and shoe ins for the top 3.
I think anyone ruling Miller out for SA is wrong personally. I believe SA would be high on him and as long as no criminal charges are filed I bet SA would take him 3 if Wemby/Scoot are gone.
If the Spurs had had information on Primo’s exhibitionist tendencies, they wouldn’t have drafted him, and this kid brought a murder weapon to the scene on request. No charges have been filed, because he’s the top player in the #2 team in the country, not because they didn’t have cause. If he were a black non-athlete student at UA, he’d be rotting in jail right now.
He didn’t commit a crime in that state. Neither of the two arrested have suggested differently either. He brought a gun and gave it to someone who gave to someone else. I don’t think many would argue if a white dude brought a gun upon request and gave it to someone who then gives it to someone else. Thats a typical day out for lots of fat white gun nutters.
There certainly seems to be a lack of evidence to suggest he knew it was going to be used to kill somebody. The texts lend credibility to the idea that miles loaded the gun and knew what was up.
So if you got a problem it’s with the politicians in that state which have relaxed gun laws.
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