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Do you really think he thought his friend needed some target practice shooting at pigeons?
A reason Primo appealed to the team so much is not just because of burgeoning skills, but because he came off like a choir boy. No matter how much people want to disregard this, the Kawhi Leonard experience was awful -- a player they devoted tons of resources into and whose future with the team seemed completely assured stabbed them in the back. Character matters. It turns out Primo had psychological issues or whatever the and liked to whip out his .
I don't see the Spurs ing around with some psycho who is not ony stupid enough to bring a gun in the middle of the night to a chaotic situation, not knowing the reasons why, but was preening like a jackass, like he was the one aggrieved, when the news got out and even did this absurd 'pat me down for a gun' routine during intros. That is bananas. The Spurs aren't going to deal with that mess, not to mention paying $10 million a year for the privilege.
I think people are discounting just how wild this is, even after this Ja Morant ery. Not to mention whatever is going on with the Alabama program at large.
Do you really think he thought his friend needed some target practice shooting at pigeons?
Think Miller probably #3 on the list talent wise, but the gun issue may make him slide.
Would be leary of investing a top pick on him unless I was 100% certain about his character issues.
Doesn’t matter what I think. The law in that state couldn’t connect the dots. There was no evidence of intent or prior knowledge of what the gun would be used for.
But I got no problem calling out the hypocrisy of being outraged that he’s not being charged when it comes to a black man handing a gun to a friend when no one would’ve criminalized a white dude for doing it. This and many states literally pave the ing way for this way of life.
Gun culture in this country loves to remove responsibility until it’s a black dude… he should be locked up. He had to of known.
No one in this thread is outraged that he’s not being charged. That’s missing the point of what people are saying. If we pretend nothing happened that night as far as a murder goes, it is irresponsible for an athlete (black or white or any race) who has so much going for him to go out at night to hand over a gun to another person. In the context of if the Spurs should draft him under the hypothetical where the report started and ended with Miller simply taking that action that night (again, with no murder taking place), it would be a serious red flag that would likely cause the Spurs to pass on him.
I think you have to take Miller at 3. Red flag or not. But that was before the Ja incident. Let’s see how long Ja is out for. Miller didn’t do anything outrageous other than be a complete moron. But in SA, I don’t see Miller being that type of idiot.
Bilal Coulibaly
Sidy Cissoko
Nikola Djurisic
are heavy hitters for our second round pick, IMO
They didn’t want to, because they need him on the court for the NCAAs. Surely you can’t be naive enough to not understand this.
You put miller at 3 on the board and interview him at the combine. If he checks out, draft him.
The problem with primo was that he wasn't very good, and his blew back on the team. Most 18 and 19 yr olds do dumb and recover.
I'm surprised at how many Americans still don't realize that the law is entirely optional in this country.
These are still kids. When most of us were 18 or 19 we worried about where we were going to get drunk on Friday night. Thank God our stupidity wasn't immortalized on Facebook or Twitter.
You know what I didn't do at 18 or 19?
I joined the army at 17 and was a Sargent teaching school at the age of 20. Just saying most kids who struggle out the gate take a long time to get going.
You have no evidence of that. Not everything is a conspiracy. You sound like maga. The whole idea that a bunch of cogs in the wheel are willing to risk their careers and livelihood so Miller can play basketball sounds pretty naive as well. I'm not saying things like this have never happened but its quite the stretch in this situation.
We aren't talking about 1 person of authority making a decision. Multiple people would have to be in harmony... and with no one blowing the whistle that there's a deliberate cover up. So in my eyes, naive would be the guy who wants to take the position that multiple people would risk their career, the lives that they've built in the city and neighborhoods that they live in so an indisputable criminal can play college basketball for another month.
The real conspiracy is why the laws around guns are so relaxed.
I agree. Not defending Miller - he’s done something remarkably irresponsible, however, it genuinely doesn’t seem to be a criminal deed. The dudes who did it are in jail.
Was watching LAC MEM this week and the Grizz couldn't get past Clippers. Guess who was not suiting up due to off court issues? Look at the standings, do you think MEM can afford that loss? As Spurs fans we know how crucial seeding and path and home court advantage is.
So do I think Spurs leadership still has Miller on the board? No. I don't care if the draft pick is a genetic super soldier with the genes of Jesus Christ and Micheal Jordan. If they jump on the hood of a car in a strip club parking lot and negligently discharge a firearm, they are gonna get suspended and won't be on the court with all their talents to help your team win games. That sucks then, to lose 50 ing games, tank a whole season, and all you have to show for it is a guy banned from the court?
No way am I taking that risk. At this point, it would literally require the ALA DA saying "whoops, entirely wrong Brandon Miller alltogether then" for Spurs to reconsider. For those saying isolated incident, his at ude after the news broke shows he is doubling down on the arrogance. Someone died, y'all.
1. I’m probably the most unMAGA poster on this board.
2. The decision to prosecute or not rests solely with the DA. He’s a UA graduate.
Sports coverups are a long tradition. How long did that ahole at Penn State get away with molesting kids? Paterno KNEW and did nothing, and neither did anyone else. It would have damaged the program, just like prosecuting this kid at UA would.
Miller himself knows he got over. If he were genuinely horrified at what happened, and he should be if he was uninvolved, he wouldn’t be doing that stupid pat down routine during introductions. He knows.
Also, knowing the Spurs FO got burned on Leonard and Primo, must be seeing Vietnam flashbacks at this point, it's like, the Spurs aren't just vetting players personality profile anymore, they gotta be casing the entire program lol.
Spurs doing mental heath checks on the ball boy, the announcer, the facility custodians lol I'm probing the entire ing campus.
Makes me wonder about Keyonte George. I don't necessarily endorse the player for a Spurs pick, don't see much to like there, imo. But knowing SA just picked from Baylor last season, and now knowing this Primo/Ja/B.Miller/Gilbert Arenas type risk situation going on, I'm scared they'll just be like 'pick Keyonte' since Sochan came out of there okay just last year lol.
I was being sarcastic about the maga. Based on the law I posted he's clearly not guilty. That's not conspiracy. That's poorly written law. I don't care where the DA graduated. That person isn't risking their career for basketball. Not only that but its an indisputable crime you'd have everyone involved with the case speaking out about the lack of the legal system doing its intended job. No one is willingly going to open themselves up to that criticism and risk out of loyalty to a college.
Again, I stated that I'm not saying its never happened. I don't know all the details around Penn but wasn't the coverup internal and within a small group of people. I could be wrong but I don't believe it included law enforcement cover up, did it? Either way it doesn't matter.
This day and age its significantly more difficult to pull off a blatant coverup.
In this case they're being transparent and the way the law is written puts this kid in the clear. Whether we agree with that or not. That's not conspiracy. That's ting laws and a desperate need for gun reform.
Do we have all the details the Police have for Miller ? What i mean is we don't know what exactly happened. Could he not be charged if he intentionnaly bring a gun to a murderer ? I'm not sure, imo we need to have more details.
And no way i'm saying he's innocent.
From everything I’ve seen. They have all the text correspondence. He brought the gun. Miles took the gun then messaged the shooter that it was loaded and placed in a vehicle for him to take.
So Miles loading the gun and making the transfer was compelling enough to charge both men.
As far what’s been said there is no correspondence between Miller and the shooter and no correspondence between Miller and Miles as to intent.
That’s why he’s not being charged.
Whether that’s a fair law is another debate but I’m sure there are many instances of people handing a gun to someone unknowingly that it is intended to be handed off again for a crime.
How many degrees of separation do people want? Especially if there’s no evidence otherwise.
With that said I’m not necessarily defending Miller nor do I care to draft him.
Just pointing out that the law and lack of a charge is consistent. Has nothing to do with some grand conspiracy.
Let's hope the Spurs get eiether 1 or 2 and don't have to make any decision on Miller or anyone else at the 3 draft position. Think positive. We have 2 chances to get those top spots.
My oversimplified analysis: America loves guns and sports. But the law is typically prejudiced against black people. Seems like it could have gone either way for Miller. He got lucky. But then there’s a backlash against Ja, and the court of public opinion swings the other way. But I’m not following this closely.
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