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    Sorry but changing gun laws not going to put a dent into shooting deaths most guns used in big city shootings are stolen and criminals don’t give a about laws. Just like people who want illegal drugs can easily get them so can people get almost any weapon they want.
    Study after study says that changing gunn laws will affect shooting deaths. Your talking points are like a decade old. The problem is accessing guns and wandering around with them is getting even easier. The number one cause of death for children now is guns.

    I mean, in the United States. Everywhere else it's not.

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    literally the only country in the world that his this problem is the one that lets everyone own tons of guns yet changing the laws wouldnt do anything? rofl

    by that logic why not just get rid of all laws. criminals dont care about the laws, so why even have them? See how dumb that sounds

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    The Ringer has Brandon Miller above Scoot at this point. https://nbadraft.theringer.com/?_ga=...024.1678380316

    Say what you will about that guy's work, but the shift is out there. It's no secret that I value high level college ball much more than runaround G-League play, and Miller is extremely good. Scoot still has the 'he's generational! best pick in any other draft!' thing going for him.
    Dean has also bumped him up to #2.

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    . . . most guns used in big city shootings are stolen and criminals don’t give a about laws.
    If you allow fewer guns there are fewer guns for criminals to steal.

    There is a direct correlation between the supply of guns in a society and gun deaths. That correlation holds up internationally between countries and, within the US, between states.

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    Sorry but changing gun laws not going to put a dent into shooting deaths most guns used in big city shootings are stolen and criminals don’t give a about laws. Just like people who want illegal drugs can easily get them so can people get almost any weapon they want.
    There’s a built in assumption in your statement that gun deaths only happen in the big city. Plenty of kids killed in suburban and small town classrooms.

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    There’s a built in assumption in your statement that gun deaths only happen in the big city. Plenty of kids killed in suburban and small town classrooms.
    I think mostly in people's homes. Gun owners are not responsible and let their kids have easy access. More guns also lead to more suicides.

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    This stuff is why Republicans refused to allow studies of gun deaths. The truth comes out.

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    Miller’s game is predicated on chucking up shots. Scoot’s game is about feel. Player with the most feel ends up being more successful 9 times out of 10.

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    I think mostly in people's homes. Gun owners are not responsible and let their kids have easy access. More guns also lead to more suicides.
    I would agree with you a lot of deaths are caused from parents not educating there child on gun safety and keeping firearm secure. And current mental health crisis with veterans and people dealing with the Covid lockdowns has dramatically increased the suicide rate. You add those two with the rise in shootings in major cities is probably 90% of death by firearms.

    Like I said more gun laws not going to change anything need to enforce the current laws on the books which is not being done. You have people who have attempted murder back on the streets the same day. If you want a war on guns go for it I think gun death were around 45 thousand compared to drug overdose which was around 100 thousand. The war on guns will be as affective as the war on drugs. I don’t see a lot of people talking about all the Fentanyl overdose death which was at 70,601 in 2021 and Dramatically rising- I wonder why?

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    I would agree with you a lot of deaths are caused from parents not educating there child on gun safety and keeping firearm secure. And current mental health crisis with veterans and people dealing with the Covid lockdowns has dramatically increased the suicide rate. You add those two with the rise in shootings in major cities is probably 90% of death by firearms.

    Like I said more gun laws not going to change anything need to enforce the current laws on the books which is not being done. You have people who have attempted murder back on the streets the same day. If you want a war on guns go for it I think gun death were around 45 thousand compared to drug overdose which was around 100 thousand. The war on guns will be as affective as the war on drugs. I don’t see a lot of people talking about all the Fentanyl overdose death which was at 70,601 in 2021 and Dramatically rising- I wonder why?
    Do you work for the NRA? Lol. This is just old NRA garbage.

    Look up diseases of despair, btw. Rural and suburban America has been in massive trouble for much longer than the pandemic. Tons of drug use, domestic violence, suicide among rural whites. A massive reason why life expectancy has started looking like Russia's in those parts of the world. Curious, areas that keep voting for people who hate and take advantage of them in the GOP! Weird!

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    Didn't realize Bill Bradley was in this draft class.

    (This is a deep cut, kudos to those of you who get it)

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    Didn't realize Bill Bradley was in this draft class.

    (This is a deep cut, kudos to those of you who get it)
    I don't see any reference to "Dollar Bill" Bradley in the posts above.

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    Sorry but changing gun laws not going to put a dent into shooting deaths most guns used in big city shootings are stolen and criminals don’t give a about laws. Just like people who want illegal drugs can easily get them so can people get almost any weapon they want.
    Stfu Maga . I know your bull so don’t roll in with some fake ass attempt to rationalize gun culture. You’re one of the biggest extremists on this board.

    Anyone with an ounce of intelligence knows that practical gun laws don’t solve problems overnight. It’s a long game. Absolutely nothing changes overnight but steps in the right direction beget stronger steps and lay the groundwork for responsible gun ownership while slowly working against the real problems. It would be a move with a 30+ year vision.

    But you ing pieces of fight practical legislation by convincing other s that if you can’t fix the problem overnight it must be flawed logic.

    You are the problem. Get bent loser.

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    Do you work for the NRA? Lol. This is just old NRA garbage.

    Look up diseases of despair, btw. Rural and suburban America has been in massive trouble for much longer than the pandemic. Tons of drug use, domestic violence, suicide among rural whites. A massive reason why life expectancy has started looking like Russia's in those parts of the world. Curious, areas that keep voting for people who hate and take advantage of them in the GOP! Weird!
    Backhome is worthless shill propagandist. There’s no reality in those people. ing waste of space.

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    Taking a step back from politics here, I have a quick question for the board. Does anyone else think that Jarace Walker looks like a 3 in the NBA more so than a 4 or 5? I keep getting Kawhi flashbacks watching his defensive highlights on the perimeter. A guy like that would be fantastic for the Spurs, who have demonstrated that they can really take this kind of prospect and develop out their offensive game.

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    Taking a step back from politics here, I have a quick question for the board. Does anyone else think that Jarace Walker looks like a 3 in the NBA more so than a 4 or 5? I keep getting Kawhi flashbacks watching his defensive highlights on the perimeter. A guy like that would be fantastic for the Spurs, who have demonstrated that they can really take this kind of prospect and develop out their offensive game.
    I see him as more of a 4.5 in the NBA. Love his defense and how he's able to blend in a good team, but I don't buy that shot of his at all. He's a safe bet to find a role for himself but unless the Spurs are trading back I don't think he brings what they need - a potential 1st option on offense, a creator, etc.

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    It's hard to get a read on draftees nowadays, they're so raw, often not as impactful as other players on their teams. You're having to read elements of the future in the material pieces they are now.

    This obviously isn't the case with Brandon Miller, hence why he's cemented a top 4 slot. With the others, it's often hoping they fix glaring issues or lack of skills. In the past it felt lik you had a better sense of skill packages.

    Maybe it's been this way for a while. Maybe it's drafting so high that makes the problem more obvious. I can see why you start taking physical and athletic profiles in the high lottery because those players otherwise have the same sort of deficiencies as anyone else. Cam Whittmore, the Thompson kids. I guess it's obvious, but there's no reason to believe they'll pay off above others in their range of age and experience, but I'm now realizing that with those high picks you're paying with draft capital and salary for greater swings of the bat.

    And I think I'm still in the mode of trying to find value later in the draft.

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    It's hard to get a read on draftees nowadays, they're so raw, often not as impactful as other players on their teams. You're having to read elements of the future in the material pieces they are now.

    This obviously isn't the case with Brandon Miller, hence why he's cemented a top 4 slot. With the others, it's often hoping they fix glaring issues or lack of skills. In the past it felt lik you had a better sense of skill packages.

    Maybe it's been this way for a while. Maybe it's drafting so high that makes the problem more obvious. I can see why you start taking physical and athletic profiles in the high lottery because those players otherwise have the same sort of deficiencies as anyone else. Cam Whittmore, the Thompson kids. I guess it's obvious, but there's no reason to believe they'll pay off above others in their range of age and experience, but I'm now realizing that with those high picks you're paying with draft capital and salary for greater swings of the bat.

    And I think I'm still in the mode of trying to find value later in the draft.
    Another thing to keep in mind about these raw guys at the top is that when the NBA goes back to letting high school players enter that this issue will only magnify. It'll cause teams at the top to have more misses than they do now and you'll see a few quality guys drop.

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    Backhome is worthless shill propagandist. There’s no reality in those people. ing waste of space.
    Someone needs to go back to there “Safe Space”. Lol

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    I see him as more of a 4.5 in the NBA. Love his defense and how he's able to blend in a good team, but I don't buy that shot of his at all. He's a safe bet to find a role for himself but unless the Spurs are trading back I don't think he brings what they need - a potential 1st option on offense, a creator, etc.
    I totally get reluctance with his shot, but it seems to me that he has the foot speed, lateral quickness and ball handling to be a 3. If he can be a 3 than his value is arguably top 5. I also think that the Spurs have proven themselves capable of developing certain types of prospects above others, and tweaking shots to make them better offensive players. I was super underwhelmed by the Sochan, Murry, White, Vassell and Leonard picks when they were made but all of those guys hit in one way or another. Seems like the Spurs struggle with developing the more offense first types, with a possible exception of Branham.

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    Brandon Miller destroying Missouri from distance, on the break, on the boards, assisting, defending... if not for the legal issue, he's 2 or 3 at worst.

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    They said he can't finish...

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    Z Eady from Purdue of a game. Reminds me of Garza from Mich kinda

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    Brandon Miller destroying Missouri from distance, on the break, on the boards, assisting, defending... if not for the legal issue, he's 2 or 3 at worst.
    I suppose there is a world where I could root for him (pending a LOT of additional information), but man — I don’t give a how good of a basketball player he is. The guy delivered a murder weapon to the actual crime scene.

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