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    What's a fair price/deal for Tre Jones' return?

    Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
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    78-83) Jose Alvarado, O.G. Anunoby, Al Horford, Tre Jones, Jaden McDaniels, De'Anthony Melton

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    78) Harrison Barnes $18,352,273
    83) Jonathan Isaac $17,400,000

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    78-83) Jose Alvarado, O.G. Anunoby, Al Horford, Tre Jones, Jaden McDaniels, De'Anthony Melton

    2022-2023 Salaries
    78) Harrison Barnes $18,352,273
    83) Jonathan Isaac $17,400,000
    Drom John with the goods. It’s always about who has money to spend and who has the need. I don’t aee the teams with salary cap room overpaying for Tre this offseason. I can someone who needs a young traditional point paying full MLE though.

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    The full MLE for next year is about 10 mil. Is Tre worth that much even to a team with need or cap space ? I like the guy just not that much. He's good just not that good. Free agency will tell.

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    The full MLE for next year is about 10 mil. Is Tre worth that much even to a team with need or cap space ? I like the guy just not that much. He's good just not that good. Free agency will tell.
    I’m starting to like Devonte at backup PG where he could pick and pop, long range, streaky scorer who’s ideal for that 6th/7th man in a rebuilding team. Then there’s still Branham (who’s playing real good at PG vs SG) and Blake. If Spurs landed Scoot or Amen, I don’t know what’s going to happen with Tre. I like the kid and a very steady PG but I think he’s the odd man in a logjam guard position.

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    I’m starting to like Devonte at backup PG where he could pick and pop, long range, streaky scorer who’s ideal for that 6th/7th man in a rebuilding team. Then there’s still Branham (who’s playing real good at PG vs SG) and Blake. If Spurs landed Scoot or Amen, I don’t know what’s going to happen with Tre. I like the kid and a very steady PG but I think he’s the odd man in a logjam guard position.
    I... agree with this take. I'm finding it surprisingly harder to see him on the team next year than I thought. He's in a strange spot where he did very well this year IMO being thrown into the starter spot but he hasn't quite distinguished himself in ways the league probably wants (shooting threes, etc.). But then the team has enough ballhandling options. He doesn't fulfill any needs.

    I can see the team trying to sign him for a shorter or lesser contract. I can maybe see other teams giving him a shot. I don't see S&Ts though.

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    I... agree with this take. I'm finding it surprisingly harder to see him on the team next year than I thought. He's in a strange spot where he did very well this year IMO being thrown into the starter spot but he hasn't quite distinguished himself in ways the league probably wants (shooting threes, etc.). But then the team has enough ballhandling options. He doesn't fulfill any needs.

    I can see the team trying to sign him for a shorter or lesser contract. I can maybe see other teams giving him a shot. I don't see S&Ts though.
    Branham wasn’t expected to play PG but distinguished himself with sudden injuries, who knows he might still end up as a combo guard. And then there’s Sochan who could slide to PG, or not, if Spurs are lucky to land Wemby. It’s Tre’s iffy long range, while he’s been working on it, still remains suspect.

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    The full MLE for next year is about 10 mil. Is Tre worth that much even to a team with need or cap space ? I like the guy just not that much. He's good just not that good. Free agency will tell.
    He would be amazing as backup to CP3 in Phoenix, or even with the Nuggets. I think he’ll fetch a full MLE sized offer, and the spurs will have to think long and hard

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    He would be amazing as backup to CP3 in Phoenix, or even with the Nuggets. I think he’ll fetch a full MLE sized offer, and the spurs will have to think long and hard
    So I guess you're saying Phoenix & Nuggets yes if they want to spend their cash, and spurs possibly no ?

    I can see him as being more useful and worth more money to a playoff type team as well. The spurs however, aren't quite there yet. The FO will have to do some serious thinking on him.

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    He would be amazing as backup to CP3 in Phoenix, or even with the Nuggets. I think he’ll fetch a full MLE sized offer, and the spurs will have to think long and hard
    Something along those lines, yeah. I don't know how the cap or timing works, but they could engineer a S&T with a contender over the cap line, even take on some extra salary, and get an asset.

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    Devonte has his own deficiencies but already seems like a better fit than Tre Jones. Now, yes, the advanced stats suggest Jones is (more) effective but without he actually improving his outside shot (something I hoped and thought he would do this year but hasn't which makes me way less optimistic about him now) then I'm ready to move on from him as a starter at least. The second unit might even motivate him. But between Devonte, Malaki, and Jeremy, I don't see a great need for Tre at this point.

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    He can easily get poached more bc I don’t think the Spurs want to commit big money to him. All another team that wants a solid backup PG has to do is offer like 24m/3y to force Spurs hand.
    That's not "big money" by today's NBA standards, most teams don't have cap space, most that do don't have a need at PG and those that do are virtually guaranteed to aim higher.


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    78-83) Jose Alvarado, O.G. Anunoby, Al Horford, Tre Jones, Jaden McDaniels, De'Anthony Melton

    2022-2023 Salaries
    78) Harrison Barnes $18,352,273
    83) Jonathan Isaac $17,400,000
    That's nice, but everything I said stands, in addition to him playing one of the two over saturated positions.

    He's been as advertised in the NBA, yet went 41st in his draft because he's among, if not the single least valued archetype.

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    Mamu with career high tonight 11pts, with 4 rebounds, 2 assists in 12 mins of play. Mamuuuuu!!

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    This thread managed to be about two players:

    1) Tre Jones was fantastic tonight. He's a good floor general who, when he's on, really peppers the basket with those runners.

    2) Mamukelashvili is clearly a very smart player. Those tap outs on rebounds were key in winning possessions. He knew he couldn't always get the boards clean, so got them to teammates.

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    Mamu with career high tonight 11pts, with 4 rebounds, 2 assists in 12 mins of play. Mamuuuuu!!
    Didn't realize that was a career high. Tbh I don't see why he can't be a rotation player. I was really intrigued when he was coming out of Seton Hall. He's smart and skilled. Superb passer, already has a three-point shot.

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    This thread managed to be about two players:

    1) Tre Jones was fantastic tonight. He's a good floor general who, when he's on, really peppers the basket with those runners.

    2) Mamukelashvili is clearly a very smart player. Those tap outs on rebounds were key in winning possessions. He knew he couldn't always get the boards clean, so got them to teammates.

    Mamu needs his own thread. With his nickname, and gritty fun plays, I think we’ll see more of him

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    Mamu with career high tonight 11pts, with 4 rebounds, 2 assists in 12 mins of play. Mamuuuuu!!
    I don’t think this is his career high pimp…..

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    I don’t think this is his career high pimp…..
    I only heard from the Denver broadcasters, enlighten us

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    That's his season high. He had games of 12, 17 and dropped 28 in the last game of the season last year presumably when the Bucks were resting players.

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    I really hope Atl Spur doesn’t start hyping up this guy. He’s playing well so far and doesn’t need that kind of jinx.

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    That's his season high. He had games of 12, 17 and dropped 28 in the last game of the season last year presumably when the Bucks were resting players.
    Thanks . I don’t doubt it. He’s a baller and can impact the game in so many ways. Somehow I think Coach Bud did Spurs solid, dropping Roby so fast to scoop this guy.

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    That's not "big money" by today's NBA standards, most teams don't have cap space, most that do don't have a need at PG and those that do are virtually guaranteed to aim higher.




    That's nice, but everything I said stands, in addition to him playing one of the two over saturated positions.

    He's been as advertised in the NBA, yet went 41st in his draft because he's among, if not the single least valued archetype.
    The teams that could use him are teams over the cap but obviously they still have tools at their disposal like the MLE. It’s why I suggested the Suns as a natural fit.

    I thinks it’s around that figure (10M a year) where the spurs may start to get pause about extending him. We’ll see. He’s definitely earned a chunky pay raise.

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    Mamu reminds me of a Ben Simmons/D Sabonis type. Ben Simmons with his passing ability from the post, but probably can't lead a fast break like Ben does. But Mamu can shoot infinitely better than Simmons. Sabonis for his post game. I know its only been one game, but I like what I saw. And I also like the contrast in big men with Bassey.

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    I like the Tre (pass first floor general) and Devonte coming as his backup sixth man (Jamal Crawford type). Still think it makes sense to move Devonte at the trade deadline. Only thing that impressed me with Mamu was the pass to Vassell. Obviously he’s still young and raw, definitely like him over Roby who wasn’t going to be brought back.

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    I really hope Atl Spur doesn’t start hyping up this guy. He’s playing well so far and doesn’t need that kind of jinx.
    Lol…. He’s skilled. No hype there just facts.

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    The teams that could use him are teams over the cap but obviously they still have tools at their disposal like the MLE. It’s why I suggested the Suns as a natural fit.

    I thinks it’s around that figure (10M a year) where the spurs may start to get pause about extending him. We’ll see. He’s definitely earned a chunky pay raise.
    Not all do and the last thing the Suns need is a small guard who can't shoot next to Durant and Booker going forward. A 3 and D, secondary creator type would be ideal.

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