Draft projects to watch besides Wembanyama & Henderson

[RobinsontoDuncan]

For s sake, terrible people have been incredibly good at basketball do you want to take BPA or find a boyfriend for your daughter? Miller will go second to 4rth. Its easier to replace a coach than elite talent. And a homie that brings you gun might be the sociopath the team needs. We for sure dont need raw talents that take 5 years to contribute.

Um. The Spurs arent my life. I'd just as rather not watch than try to root for a detestable human being.

[Dejounte]

The same team that banished Flasher not because he was charged for that crime but because he put himself in a position where it easily could have turned into something much bigger is not all of a sudden going to feel sympathetic towards Miller who again is a player who put himself in a similar irresponsible situation that could have easily been avoided. The Spurs have been largely intolerant of things like that, especially towards young players. This is just my opinion, of course. It would just surprise me given recent affairs.

I’m neither for or against Miller, but I’d like to think I know the team I root for.

[Dejounte]

Also, Miller is not a “do-or-die” type talent that the Spurs will regret passing up on later if they decide to go that route. It’s only until in recent months where he’s been perceived as a top 4 talent. In combination with the belief that the Spurs will be picking in the lottery again next year, there will be more players with equal to or better than Miller’s talent in next year’s draft WITHOUT the baggage. I mean, it’s barely been two years since many folks here wanted Simmons because no one thought there would be another opportunity for the Spurs to get a player of that caliber yet Sochan is looking like he might become that guy. There’s only one basketball and life goes on - my motto for NBA basketball.

[Biggems]

So, let's say we fall into Wemby. That would be awesome.

Would you stop there, or would you use some future draft capital to try and get another 1st round talent? I know for me, I want Wemby and Kris Murray.

Of course, we would still need to get a franchise PG. Tre is ok, but I feel he is more of reserve player.

[Russ]

That's not who I was referring to. I wanted him for the Spurs.

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...=1#post8588316

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...=1#post8596768

The guy I was referring to was the best HS player in California, Mr. Basketball in California, yet neither UCLA, nor USC, nor Stanford, nor Cal would touch him.

BTW, I also wanted that guy for the Spurs.

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...=1#post5319797

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...=1#post5319754

[Mr. Body]

Also, Miller is not a “do-or-die” type talent

Scary choice of phrase there, lol.

[mo7888]

Scary choice of phrase there, lol.

[mo7888]

So, let's say we fall into Wemby. That would be awesome.

Would you stop there, or would you use some future draft capital to try and get another 1st round talent? I know for me, I want Wemby and Kris Murray.

Of course, we would still need to get a franchise PG. Tre is ok, but I feel he is more of reserve player.

I'd explore moving up, I'm not sure there will be a palatable deal out there but I'd definitely explore it..

Edited to add: I'd explore it even if we don't get Wembanyama. I'm much higher on this draft than most on this board. I also think there's a limit to how many young guys we want to add. I'd check in and see what our two 2nd's + the Charlotte pick could get you. I'd also explore bigger packages around Keldon to see if I could acquire another top 10 pick. I'm not saying I'd try to get two more 1st's... I'm just saying I'd explore both options to see where I could extract the most net value. The goal would be to come out of the draft with two rookies instead of the 3 we currently have.

[baseline bum]

I would agree with you a lot of deaths are caused from parents not educating there child on gun safety and keeping firearm secure. And current mental health crisis with veterans and people dealing with the Covid lockdowns has dramatically increased the suicide rate. You add those two with the rise in shootings in major cities is probably 90% of death by firearms.

LOL Covid lockdowns were like a month three years ago. Mental health crisis is from the US being an oligarchy that s on its people leading to large numbers of deaths of despair.

[baseline bum]

Um. The Spurs arent my life. I'd just as rather not watch than try to root for a detestable human being.

Meh Utah fans and LA fans rooted for Malone after it came out he raped a 13 year old and made her raise the baby on her own while ducking child support payments for years. Just the same no one in San Antonio will give a about some black woman getting shot in Alabama if Miller comes here and drops 20 and 10 nightly.

[Dejounte]

Meh Utah fans and LA fans rooted for Malone after it came out he raped a 13 year old and made her raise the baby on her own while ducking child support payments for years. Just the same no one in San Antonio will give a about some black woman getting shot in Alabama if Miller comes here and drops 20 and 10 nightly.

People here speak for themselves and just because others are willing to let something slide doesn’t mean that’s what someone else should do too. It seems gutless to not stand on one’s own principles just because a majority of people won’t stand for it. If I was a Jazz fan, I’d say other Jazz fans who supported Malone. I identify as myself rooting for the team I like, not as anybody else.

[baseline bum]

That's not who I was referring to. I wanted him for the Spurs.

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...=1#post8588316

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...=1#post8596768

The guy I was referring to was the best HS player in California, Mr. Basketball in California, yet neither UCLA, nor USC, nor Stanford, nor Cal would touch him.

BTW, I also wanted that guy for the Spurs.

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...=1#post5319797

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...=1#post5319754

I mean I'd have loved to had Pierce on the Spurs even if he's throwing B's ingame

[CGD]

So, let's say we fall into Wemby. That would be awesome.

Would you stop there, or would you use some future draft capital to try and get another 1st round talent? I know for me, I want Wemby and Kris Murray.

Of course, we would still need to get a franchise PG. Tre is ok, but I feel he is more of reserve player.

Not for another 2023 pick, but I do think about using them to hasten the rebuild. For example, many speculate Jaylen Brown could become available after next year. So do you prepare next year to make run at him if there are signals that the relationship with Boston turns shaky?

Lonzo ball is another interesting player to watch assuming he bounces back from his mysterious knee surgery. Chicago is messing up that rehab badly and I think the relationship there isn’t great.

[TD 21]

For s sake, terrible people have been incredibly good at basketball do you want to take BPA or find a boyfriend for your daughter? Miller will go second to 4rth. Its easier to replace a coach than elite talent. And a homie that brings you gun might be the sociopath the team needs. We for sure dont need raw talents that take 5 years to contribute.

Agreed, but we all know (or at least should) that they're not going treat this situation as such.

I already thought they wouldn't select him before this incident anyway. At this writing, he's a virtual no brainer at 3, either as an attempt to trade up to 2 if the Pistons or maybe Hornets land it or to trade down slightly to pick up an additional asset(s), but I doubt they'd even do that.

I've been consistent with this: If they land at 3 or 4, it'll be (Amen) Thompson, 5 or lower and it'll be Black.

[Ariel]

I don't think Scoot at 2 is such a lock. On paper, most lottery teams could use a big wing like Miller much more than a ball dominant PG like Scoot:
Team Scoot

1. Houston (no PG)
2. San Antonio (no PG)
3. Orlando (weak at point -Suggs and Fultz don't cut it-, plus Franz Wagner & Paolo at forward)
4. Washington (no PG, though can use anything)

Team Shoot

1. Detroit (Cade & Ivey)
2. Charlotte (Lamelo)
3. Indiana (Haliburton & Nembhard)
4. Portland (Dame & Simons)
5. OKC (most likely, with Shai & Giddey aboard)

Undecided:

1. Chicago (with Lonzo out and DDR aging, could use anything)
2. Toronto (may need a PG, but Masai has a hard on for Miller types)
3. New Orleans (Ingram, Trey Murphy, Herb Jones... but also McCollum, Daniels, etc.)
4. Utah (I don't see either as a good culture fit)

[exstatic]

I see no scenario where the Spurs draft and keep scoot. He’s heliocentric, average to below average shooting, below average rim finisher, and an absolute defender.

[Ariel]

I see no scenario where the Spurs draft and keep scoot. He’s heliocentric, average to below average shooting, below average rim finisher, and an absolute defender.

It's possible. As the year went by I've been cooling down on Scoot, mainly because of a perceived stagnation on his 2nd year at Ignite, plus the reasons you mention. Still I think there's a better chance the Spurs draft Scoot than Miller, for non basketball related concerns. I'd take Scoot though, but I'm not opposed to trading down for the right price.

[Dejounte]

I see no scenario where the Spurs draft and keep scoot. He’s heliocentric, average to below average shooting, below average rim finisher, and an absolute defender.

I’m willing to bet one person on this site about this. Do you want to be it? Parameters are if the Spurs get the #2 pick and Scoot is still there at #2. I win $100 if Scoot gets drafted and kept, $100 for the other person if he’s traded before the start of the season.

[TDMVPDPOY]

if the spurs fall in the draft or wendy isnt on the draft board, they draft their biggest need on the roster at the weakest position, or draft best athlete still available...

the spurms can always stick with trey or sign a vet/star pg through FA...

[Mr. Body]

Scoot is product of ESPN's and the NBA's need to hype the out of the G-League at every turn. If they can break the NCAA, that would be gold for them.

So we've been having "Scoot Henderson, generational PG, Scoot Henderson, best guard prospect in ten years, would be top pick in any other draft" horse for a while now.

[exstatic]

I’m willing to bet one person on this site about this. Do you want to be it? Parameters are if the Spurs get the #2 pick and Scoot is still there at #2. I win $100 if Scoot gets drafted and kept, $100 for the other person if he’s traded before the start of the season.

With these EXACT conditions, I’m your huckleberry. The only emoney I send or receive is PayPal.

[JPB]

On pure BB, I'd take Miller over Scoot now.

[Mr. Body]

On pure BB, I'd take Miller over Scoot now.

I don't think there's any question.

[Ariel]

With these EXACT conditions, I’m your huckleberry. The only emoney I send or receive is PayPal.

What if the Spurs PASS on Scoot altogether? Should be (provided he's available when the Spurs pick) if Scoot is drafted and kept, or else.

[heyheymymy]

My early lottery mock based on a tankathon sim run:

1. Detroit Pistons - Victor Wembanyama

2. Houston Rockets - Scoot Henderson

3. Chicago Bulls - Amen Thompson

4. Charlotte Hornets - Brandon Miller

5. San Antonio Spurs - Ausar Thompson

6. Orlando Magic - Nick Smith Jr.

7. Indiana Pacers - Jarace Walker

8. Portland Trailblazers - Keyonte George

9. Washington Wizards - Cam Whitmore

10. OKC Thunder- Gradey

11. Toronto Raptors - Anthony Black

12. NOLA Pelicans - Brice Sensabough

13. Utah Jazz - Cason Wallace

14. LA Lakers - Dariq Whitehead