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Pop was covering for Tim by not telling the world that Stack5 banged on Amy Duncan. There was no meeting where Stack said he was better than Manu and Green. All a cover story to save Tim from being embarrassed.
Neither Wemby or Scoot are guarantees for the Spurs in the lottery. Would they really pass on Brandon Miller because of where he's from? SMH
Makes me wonder about all the stuff Stack5 said about CIA Pop, that eventually got him released from the Spurs tbh.
Thoughts?
Pop was covering for Tim by not telling the world that Stack5 banged on Amy Duncan. There was no meeting where Stack said he was better than Manu and Green. All a cover story to save Tim from being embarrassed.
All kinds of questions get asked. Sometimes it has nothing to do with the actual question. They're more interested in how someone responds.
Who the is Jordan Crawford?
Some guy drafted late first Rd in 2010 who played ~280 career NBA games.
That's pretty low man. Stack5 was wrong for that tbh.
Funny, I said the same thing. Sounds like something some fool like Kendrick Perkins will pick up on and repeat though.
Did he go back to Detroit and get shot? Maybe they saved his life.
Stephen Jackson banged Amy Duncan? Thought she got it in with a Golds Gym guy?
she got around
where's this story from?
I feel like the Amy thing is more of a story that "makes sense" than was actually confirmed. Jack sucked in 2013 and was dealing with a lot of personal issues. I have no reason to believe the Manu and Green conversation didn't happen. He might well have slept with Tim's wife, but then he'd've just done both. Even if Pop is covering for Duncan doesn't mean he wasn't referencing a real incident.
Also the Spurs drafted DeJounte. Obviously they don't have a prohibition against folks from the hood. Crawford, who's been making stupid comments recently, probably took them asking if he was going to be able to be professional going forward as them stereotyping him. He hasn't gotten to the point of accepting that he isn't in the NBA because he's not good enough and is still blaming "external factors".
It's pretty obvious she had a 3 way with Pop and Bud
I think Miller is a good kid and just made a wrong place wrong time decision that night. If he's what we think he is in this tournament, San Antonio shouldn't hesitate to draft him.
Only concern is his age graduating HS at 19. Not sure how bright he is to handle coach's system.
spurs can't win-they draft him and one side will argue that they enabled an accomplice to murder (no matter how the actual facts play out), or they pass on him and are seen as just one more party given to passing judgement on a young Black man.
I don't think they get wrapped up in such things. They draft the player that will be best, all around, for the team. If they think his past isn't as innocent as some here do, they won't worry about optics.
can you refresh my memory on what pop said to "cover"? did pop tell the story about the manu/green convo? thought that was a jackson story, not a pop one
Except he is not an accomplice to murder and you have zero ideas of how things actually went. And ofc how actual facts play out matters.... I mean infinitely more than strangers opinons on a fan board who know nothing about nothing about the case but act as if they did to draw definitive conclusions and glorify themselves as morale standards.
No one will blame an NBA team, including the spurs, or argue about anything, for drafting Miller. Don't confuse ST movies with reality.
Last edited by JPB; 03-15-2023 at 02:33 PM.
You are correct. Jackson originally told that story back in 2013 right after he was cut.
This is the earliest mention I've seen of it: https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/s...regg-popovich/
Blows a hole in the idea that it was a story invented by the Spurs to shield Duncan. If Jack did sleep with Tim's wife it either happened separately from that or the story itself was an excuse JACK made up to shield himself.
Correct. It’s a no win.
When a black man passes a gun to a friend it’s accomplice to murder.
When a white man passes a gun to a friend it’s because he needed the gun for self defense.
yeah, i cant imagine pop publicly saying "yeah so i sat stephen down and asked him to admit that manu and green are better players than him" lmao
It seems very unlikely that it was ever about Pop wanting SJax to admit other players are better, but rather more likely Pop wanting SJax to understand his role on the team and stop complaining about playing time. Of course someone like Jack is going to hear what he wants, so it gets twisted to something else. Very similar to DJM’s confusing doublespeak on his time with the Spurs going back and forth between “they helped make me” and “they played mind games with me”.
The chip on these guy’s shoulders is so massive, it leads to some bizarre trains of thought.
i'm not saying anything about the spurs organization itself, because i don't see the spurs as being that either. i'm saying that this is what some ST posters and fans will make the narrative about. this thread being an example of that.
I don't care about that at all. People will about nearly anything.
that's why it's sickening to see mostly white crowds, in college station and at south carolina for instance, leading chants of "lock him up". it's just another demonstration of our society's rush to judgment when it comes to young Black men.
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