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    Yeah, the trade would have to come with an extension (which I'm not even sure he is eligible for).
    He already just signed one…hes under contract for 4 more years (last year a PO)

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    luka would also need to sign a no whataburger waiver or he'd zion himself in two weeks

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    lol they have whataburgers in Dallas too man

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    People who wouldn’t trade for Luka are nuts. You do that trade in a heartbeat. It’s a lot easier to build around Luka than people think. You just surround him with shooters and a rim protector. That’s pretty much it. The fact that Dallas has ed up their roster so badly has nothing to do with Luka.

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    Um, yeah. It would be foolish not to trade the #1 pick for Doncic. He’s already on his way to HOF status.

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    Luka is Luka but the #1 pick could be anything. It could even be another Luka!

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    SAS has dropped way down to having the 16th worst remaining schedule in the league. This is calculated by winning percentage of opponents. Of the 'top' teams faced, only Sacramento is more or less settled in position (good for them) while Phoenix, Golden State, and Minnesota are still fighting to even get in without the play-in. The 'easier' games are Portland, Utah, and Dallas. Portland looks to have pulled the plug once again.

    CHA is essentially out of the picture. I believe the Spurs need one more loss or Hornets victory and they are cemented as third at worst.

    HOU is still in question. They are listed as the 25th easiest schedule, with Denver, Knicks, and Nets marked as hard. Those last two, however, are erratic. The rest are Charlotte, Washington, Lakers, and Pistons.

    The Pistons-Rockets game is one to (not) watch. It's likely the Rockets win, putting them in a tie with the Spurs. The Spurs would need to lose out, which is possible, for this to happen.

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    SAS has dropped way down to having the 16th worst remaining schedule in the league. This is calculated by winning percentage of opponents. Of the 'top' teams faced, only Sacramento is more or less settled in position (good for them) while Phoenix, Golden State, and Minnesota are still fighting to even get in without the play-in. The 'easier' games are Portland, Utah, and Dallas. Portland looks to have pulled the plug once again.

    CHA is essentially out of the picture. I believe the Spurs need one more loss or Hornets victory and they are cemented as third at worst.

    HOU is still in question. They are listed as the 25th easiest schedule, with Denver, Knicks, and Nets marked as hard. Those last two, however, are erratic. The rest are Charlotte, Washington, Lakers, and Pistons.

    The Pistons-Rockets game is one to (not) watch. It's likely the Rockets win, putting them in a tie with the Spurs. The Spurs would need to lose out, which is possible, for this to happen.
    It would still come down to a coin flip, as there are no draft tie-breakers. I know there are two schools of thought on this, but IDGAF about 5th or 7th being the lowest spot for us. If it comes down to that, we're already screwed. Hit the magic #2 to lock position 3, then go out and kick some ass and be a spoiler.

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    If I understand things correctly, the only way a Spurs/Rockets tie would matter is if neither of them get a top 4 pick. Then a coinflip would determine who gets #5 and #6 (if the Pistons get a top 4 pick) or #6/#7 (if the Pistons don't).

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    If I understand things correctly, the only way a Spurs/Rockets tie would matter is if neither of them get a top 4 pick. Then a coinflip would determine who gets #5 and #6 (if the Pistons get a top 4 pick) or #6/#7 (if the Pistons don't).
    Would the loser of the coin flip get the 32nd pick. Don't they swap positions in the 2nd round?

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    If I understand things correctly, the only way a Spurs/Rockets tie would matter is if neither of them get a top 4 pick. Then a coinflip would determine who gets #5 and #6 (if the Pistons get a top 4 pick) or #6/#7 (if the Pistons don't).
    That's my understanding as well and further evidence of the inanity of this process imho.

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    If I understand things correctly, the only way a Spurs/Rockets tie would matter is if neither of them get a top 4 pick. Then a coinflip would determine who gets #5 and #6 (if the Pistons get a top 4 pick) or #6/#7 (if the Pistons don't).
    Would the loser of the coin flip get the 32nd pick. Don't they swap positions in the 2nd round?
    Both correct. The tiebreakers are usually decided shortly after the regular season ends.

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    Would the loser of the coin flip get the 32nd pick. Don't they swap positions in the 2nd round?
    Good point about the second round pick, I forgot about that. I think that if the Spurs and Rockets tie and neither gets a top 4 pick, then the winner of the coinflip will get the higher first round pick but lower second round pick.

    If one or both teams jump into the top 4, there will still be a coinflip but only for the second round pick.

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    To be more precise, the tiebreaker is held before the lottery, but the final order of both first and second round is known after the lottery.
    This is because the second round selection for tied lottery teams happens in inverse order to the first round, and the latter is only known after the lottery.

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    well... its a virtual lock that we are a bottom 3 team and have secured the max probabilities of landing the top 4 picks. we've done our part. up to dumb luck now.

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    To be more precise, the tiebreaker is held before the lottery, but the final order of both first and second round is known after the lottery.
    This is because the second round selection for tied lottery teams happens in inverse order to the first round, and the latter is only known after the lottery.
    Right, I would think the tiebreaker has to occur before the lottery. You can't have two teams going into the lottery with duplicate odds. This throws the whole system off.

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    Um, yeah. It would be foolish not to trade the #1 pick for Doncic. He’s already on his way to HOF status.
    Not foolish but it'd mean you are damn sure of yourself in taking Wembanyama as a generational talent. Because if not you have to take Luka and the almost guaranteed top 10 best player in the NBA for another 10 to maybe even 15 more yrs.

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    Not foolish but it'd mean you are damn sure of yourself in taking Wembanyama as a generational talent. Because if not you have to take Luka and the almost guaranteed top 10 best player in the NBA for another 10 to maybe even 15 more yrs.
    I'm taking Wemby.

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    I'm taking Wemby.
    As am I, man. As good as Luka is, it's a stretch to say he elevates his teammates despite the assist numbers. Something about his game just seems selfish

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    As am I, man. As good as Luka is, it's a stretch to say he elevates his teammates despite the assist numbers. Something about his game just seems selfish
    Agreed, Luka is definitely super talented (near MVP level) but a lot of it feels like empty calories...which is why the Mavs are currently on the outside looking in for the playoff picture.

    That said...Cuban hasn't done a great job getting him help, Kidd still hasn't proven anything as a coach, and the Kyrie thing has blown up spectacularly in their face as did Porzingis.

    Plus the guy is just such a huge diva on the court, it makes it hard to really root for him

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    You are a ing idiot if you say you aren't trading number one for Doncic. I swear ST has no limits when it comes to brain damage.

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    I'm taking Wemby.
    You are a ing idiot if you say you aren't trading number one for Doncic. I swear ST has no limits when it comes to brain damage.
    Exhibit A

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    It's a fun thought exercise. Let's take a look at the choice going into the 2003 draft and you've got #1 (LeBron).

    Do you trade the rights to LeBron for these guys:

    All NBA First Team was: Kobe, TMac, Tim, KG, Shaq. I'm going to assume Kobe and Tim are off the table here.
    All NBA Second Team was: JKidd, AI, Chris Webber, Dirk, Ben Wallace.

    Assuming Kobe and Tim are off the table, I'm not sure I am trading LeBron for any of those guys (and I would trade Bron for Tim but not sure about Kobe, that's a tough one). KG might be the only other question mark in there, but I'm still taking Bron.

    In the modern example, I think you have to trade Wemby for Giannis. I prob don't trade Wemby for Jokic. I'm still a toss up on Luka. Tatum might honestly be the only other guy I'd consider. Steph, Durant, LeBron are out based on age. Ja is out based on off the court and position value. I'd also rather take Wemby than Embiid at this point in Embiid's career, but that's another close one.

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    As am I, man. As good as Luka is, it's a stretch to say he elevates his teammates despite the assist numbers. Something about his game just seems selfish
    That, the 5 year age gap (though you could argue Doncic is young enough and Wembanyama's body type worrisome enough to offset it) and the fact that the latter's two-way ceiling is in another galaxy.

    With the exception or Jordan and James, I still think a two-way center is and always will be the most valuable archetype in the sport.

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    You are a ing idiot if you say you aren't trading number one for Doncic. I swear ST has no limits when it comes to brain damage.
    Counterpoint: You take Wemby and you have him for at least a few years on a rookie contract with a good chance at extension. You can build around that.

    You trade the pick for Luka, and you're also trading for the $180M he is owed over the next 4 years (with a player option in the 4th).

    I understand Luka is a known commodity, but he could also be a malcontent who wants to force his way out of San Antonio when the going gets tough. He's already obviously frustrated with the Mavs.

    I'm not saying your logic is wrong, but it's also not as simple as you seem to be making it out to be.

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