Brandon Miller

[duncan2150]

Shifting topic slightly, I’m curious how people would compare Miller to Tyler Hendricks. Tyler seems to project as a big but has solid defense on the perimeter and solid outside shooting from my limited understanding of his game. I’ve seen him as high as 4 on some draft boards. It seems like less star potential but maybe Miller’s ceiling is overstated.

Just spitballing…

I start to be high on Hendricks, could be a really valuable nba guy. Imo he's like the perfect tweener, something between Clifford Robinson and Jaren Jackson Jr( for the blocks). I see him as a stretch four, defensive minded player.

If we draft at 7 i like him and Jarace.

[wildbill2u]

After you get past the Wemby unicorn, I'm beginning to wonder if this draft class has ANY real locks as potential All Star player.

[exstatic]

After you get past the Wemby unicorn, I'm beginning to wonder if this draft class has ANY real locks as potential All Star player.

Zero, but a couple of possibles.

[JuneJive]

Wouldn't the Primo situation make the Spurs a bit wary about taking Miller?

[John B]

After you get past the Wemby unicorn, I'm beginning to wonder if this draft class has ANY real locks as potential All Star player.

Jokic was drafted 41st, Jimmy Butler 30th after Corey Joseph, Van Fleet was undrafted. Does anybody really know? I mean you do your diligence and pray your player has the work ethic to max his potential.

[The Truth #6]

I start to be high on Hendricks, could be a really valuable nba guy. Imo he's like the perfect tweener, something between Clifford Robinson and Jaren Jackson Jr( for the blocks). I see him as a stretch four, defensive minded player.

If we draft at 7 i like him and Jarace.

Those are good comps, or at least aspirations. It’s funny, Hendricks gets knocked for playing at UCF (under former Spur Johnny Dawkins, no less) but it’s way better compe ion than OTE (cue Mr. Body nodding his head).

It helps me to compare these players against each other. And quite literally, I think TH played against Jarace this year, so that might be a good game to check out…

[exstatic]

Those are good comps, or at least aspirations. It’s funny, Hendricks gets knocked for playing at UCF (under former Spur Johnny Dawkins, no less) but it’s way better compe ion than OTE (cue Mr. Body nodding his head).

It helps me to compare these players against each other. And quite literally, I think TH played against Jarace this year, so that might be a good game to check out…

8. Taylor Hendricks
9. Jarace Walker

6’9 Hendricks and 6’8 Walker are a couple of small NCAA bigs that will be likely converted to big NBA Wings. Based on the statsheet, Jarace is the slightly more productive of the two:


Walker has a bit more productivity across the board, although Hendricks has a slightly lower turnover rate and better shooting signal. Walker is making 42% from 3P but that’s a tiny 22/52 sample and based on his 3PA rate and FT% it is not to be trusted. Hendricks is making 38.5% on a decent 3PA rate with a solid FT% to back it up, and is the better bet to be a good NBA shooter.

On paper Walker has some promising defensive indicators, as his rebound, assist, steal, and block rates for a top 10 defense and the #1 kenpom team in the country to go with a strong frame and great dimensions at 6’8 with 7’2 wingspan. But he does not move well laterally, and is prone to jumping at everything defensively. He has made a positive impact on Houston’s offense, but the defense has been better with him on the bench. He does have good instincts at jumping the passing lanes for steals, and is far from hopeless on D, but there should be some concerns about his ability to defend the perimeter in the NBA.

Conversely, Hendricks moves well on defense, and in tandem with his shooting signal, 6’9 height, and positive assist:TOV ratio, he is a solid bet to seamlessly fit into NBA lineups as a big wing. He also blocks enough shots to possibly work as a small big, but his rebound rate is a bit underwhelming to project him as a full time center.

These two even matched up head to head a couple of times, and Hendricks was able to blow by Walker for a dunk whereas Hendricks stayed in front and forced Walker into tough floaters. Walker did draw a foul on both occasions, but they were borderline calls and he wasn’t close to getting a step on Hendricks either time.

The downside of Hendricks is that he not does have any major strengths. He seems like he can be a capable NBA player on both ends, but there is no clear calling card to greatness. Realistically you are hoping for something like Jerami Grant when you take him. He likely will not be an all-star, but he is the type of player that every team will find to be useful.

Walker’s NCAA numbers are a near doppelgänger for Bobby Portis. He also projects as a solid role player type, and even if he is slightly better in NCAA the mobility concerns are enough to put him right below Hendricks for now.

[exstatic]

Jokic was drafted 41st, Jimmy Butler 30th after Corey Joseph, Van Fleet was undrafted. Does anybody really know? I mean you do your diligence and pray your player has the work ethic to max his potential.

Those are extreme cases like Manu and Tony. Better examples are Giannis and Nephew drafted in the mid teens, or Steph at 7.

[John B]

Those are extreme cases like Manu and Tony. Better examples are Giannis and Nephew drafted in the mid teens, or Steph at 7.

Precisely, there have been great players not drafted #1 overall. I would be ecstatic to draft Wemby, but there’s a good chance another player or two would be an NBA Star in that batch, and the Spurs are drafting high.

[BackHome]

After you get past the Wemby unicorn, I'm beginning to wonder if this draft class has ANY real locks as potential All Star player.

I think Covid lock downs really hurt the development of a lot of young prospects

[exstatic]

Precisely, there have been great players not drafted #1 overall. I would be ecstatic to draft Wemby, but there’s a good chance another player or two would be an NBA Star in that batch, and the Spurs are drafting high.

Those players were scattered over two decades, or 1200 draft picks. The odds of finding me one in any single draft are minuscule.

[Mr. Body]

After you get past the Wemby unicorn, I'm beginning to wonder if this draft class has ANY real locks as potential All Star player.

Which draft classes have ever had 'real locks' for the All Star game? Very few.

[Mr. Body]

Those are good comps, or at least aspirations. It’s funny, Hendricks gets knocked for playing at UCF (under former Spur Johnny Dawkins, no less) but it’s way better compe ion than OTE (cue Mr. Body nodding his head).

It helps me to compare these players against each other. And quite literally, I think TH played against Jarace this year, so that might be a good game to check out…

It's a bit weird, because UCF is in the same conference as Houston and Jarace Walker doesn't get slack for playing on that team. (Apparently both are joining the Big-12, showing what a show this whole conference thing is anymore.) I actually had to look up to make sure that UCF and Houston actually were in the same conf.

I know it's been posted before, but here's comparison btw. Walker and Hendricks by way of Tankathon.

https://www.tankathon.com/players/co...-jarace-walker

I have no reason to think so, but feel like Walker may always be a better defender, but Hendricks isn't bad, and that Hendricks is already the better scorer and will continue that way.

Tankathon classifies Brandon Miller as a SF, no idea why. They seem pretty similar. He actually gets more rebounds per 36 than the other two.

[exstatic]

Which draft classes have ever had 'real locks' for the All Star game? Very few.

Nothing recent. Have to go back to maybe 2003, LeBron, Melo, Wade.

[MannyIsGod]

I watched a lot of SEC basketball this year and I wouldn't take him #2. When he's on he's good, but he's a streaky shooter and I think he's going to get locked down quite a bit at the NBA level.

[MannyIsGod]

Nothing recent. Have to go back to maybe 2003, LeBron, Melo, Wade.

Melo and Wade weren't considered locks although you can argue that Melo should have been. But they both had players drafted ahead of them (not named Lebron).

[exstatic]

Melo and Wade weren't considered locks although you can argue that Melo should have been. But they both had players drafted ahead of them (not named Lebron).

So did Jordan. Not a disqualifier. Melo was the ncaa tourney MVP, and averaged 22 points in a level of bball with scores regularly in the 60s.

[BackHome]

Those are good comps, or at least aspirations. It’s funny, Hendricks gets knocked for playing at UCF (under former Spur Johnny Dawkins, no less) but it’s way better compe ion than OTE (cue Mr. Body nodding his head).

It helps me to compare these players against each other. And quite literally, I think TH played against Jarace this year, so that might be a good game to check out…

Yeah, you bring up good points it is like some players have greats stats but when you look at there stats when they play a good team your like OUCH not so good.

[BackHome]

It's a bit weird, because UCF is in the same conference as Houston and Jarace Walker doesn't get slack for playing on that team. (Apparently both are joining the Big-12, showing what a show this whole conference thing is anymore.) I actually had to look up to make sure that UCF and Houston actually were in the same conf.

I know it's been posted before, but here's comparison btw. Walker and Hendricks by way of Tankathon.

https://www.tankathon.com/players/co...-jarace-walker

I have no reason to think so, but feel like Walker may always be a better defender, but Hendricks isn't bad, and that Hendricks is already the better scorer and will continue that way.

Tankathon classifies Brandon Miller as a SF, no idea why. They seem pretty similar. He actually gets more rebounds per 36 than the other two.

All good point in you know if we didn't all ready have Sochan I would want Walker as I think they kind of overlap - Walker to me is a tweener C/PF - he has great foot work and is a really good passer for a big and you have to understand Houston was on a stacked team they had clear role for him to play. He is moving up on boards because of his character and work ethic and the potential people see in his practice kinda like Sharpe but take out the character..lol..j/k

To me Hendricks is a lot like Miller - Tweener PF/SF, but one reason I like Miller is he is one of the better rebounders and his shot is butter. But, Hendricks is climbing a lot of mocks based on his performance and potential. His rebounds is not as good as Miller but just slightly better then Walker. I think I can see him playing with Sochan more then I can see Walker playing with Sochan together but if anyone see that different I would like to hear your view. One thing I agree is that Hendricks has more wiggle in his defense I think he can hang on the perimeter and on another note in High School he was shooting the 3 ball 33% so was able to raise to almost 40% on 4.5 attempts not to bad.

[BackHome]

All good point in you know if we didn't all ready have Sochan I would want Walker as I think they kind of overlap - Walker to me is a tweener C/PF - he has great foot work and is a really good passer for a big and you have to understand Houston was on a stacked team they had clear role for him to play. He is moving up on boards because of his character and work ethic and the potential people see in his practice kinda like Sharpe but take out the character..lol..j/k

To me Hendricks is a lot like Miller - Tweener PF/SF, but one reason I like Miller is he is one of the better rebounders and his shot is butter. But, Hendricks is climbing a lot of mocks based on his performance and potential. His rebounds is not as good as Miller but just slightly better then Walker. I think I can see him playing with Sochan more then I can see Walker playing with Sochan together but if anyone see that different I would like to hear your view. One thing I agree is that Hendricks has more wiggle in his defense I think he can hang on the perimeter and on another note in High School he was shooting the 3 ball 33% so was able to raise to almost 40% on 4.5 attempts not to bad.

Why does every mock has us taking Amen Thompson...smh

[The Truth #6]

Yeah, maybe Hendricks is more like a budget Miller? Good shooting form. Good defense.

[Dejounte]

IMO, Hendricks is nowhere near as fluid. He looks more like Patrick Williams. Mechanical to a fault. But, I’ll try to watch more to see if my opinion changes.

[Ariel]

IMO, Hendricks is nowhere near as fluid. He looks more like Patrick Williams. Mechanical to a fault. But, I’ll try to watch more to see if my opinion changes.

I've been looking at clips of him lately because I didn't get to see actual UCF games and I agree, particularly his ball handling is very raw, he doesn't seem to have very high potential as a as a creator for himself or others, even though his passing and IQ seem good. But his defense is off the charts, his physical profile is great in terms of length and athleticism, he's super young, and he can shoot the 3. That alone makes him a very safe prospect in terms of having a role in the NBA. If his work ethic and personality check out, he could be a very interesting prospect. I wouldn't be upset if we trade down and he's one of picks, or even if we end up at 7 and take him there (provided Cam Whitmore is gone).

[spurraider21]

we were never able to will the "brad miller to spurs" rumors into existence. this is the next best thing

plus its hard not to get behind "lets go brandon" as a spur

[MannyIsGod]

So did Jordan. Not a disqualifier. Melo was the ncaa tourney MVP, and averaged 22 points in a level of bball with scores regularly in the 60s.

I mean Jordan obviously wasn't considered a lock either. Somenoe ending up as a hall of famer, or the best ever, doesn't mean they were considered locks.