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You think things are bleak now, just wait until an arena for the Spurs is being built in Austin. The crowds would be a few hundred for those two years.
They would find the space for an NBA team.
You think things are bleak now, just wait until an arena for the Spurs is being built in Austin. The crowds would be a few hundred for those two years.
Moody can fit 16,000 - as they just proved today, and which is more that avg AT&T Center attendance the last two seasons - while a long term arena is built.
The Spurs may not move to Austin, and I hope they don't, but the reasons people invent to convince themselves it'll never happen are hilarious.
You live in Austin?
You know how they are laid out and what goes where and the commitments to those spaces?
It's not going to be easy in any respect.
They put their MLS team in a former dump site.
No, it wouldn't be easy... but it also isn't like it's impossible. The MLS Franchise has an estimated worth of $630 million, and that's after the success they've seen. The Spurs are worth an estimated $2.2B (and would be worth considerably more in Austin). They would find a space for the stadium. Not say it will be at the corner of 6th and Congress... but the stakes are high enough that they can make it work. It's not like trying to find a space to lease for a cupcake shop we're talking about. Where there is economic incentive, there is a way.
Would be okay with putting it on 35 half way between Austin and San Antonio which 7 years from now will probably be damn near the merge point of the two cities anyway lol
This would be a good solution, IMO, however the problem will be the politics between the cities and counties. City of SA and Bexar County aren’t going to just roll over and be cool with the arena being built in NB/Comal or San Marcos/Hays.
Likewise the City of Austin and Travis County will likely want to fit for it to be within their borders. There is too much revenue at stake for those en ies for a natural compromise to be reached. NB/Comal or SM/Hays would have to put together a compelling bid on their own. This is how sports teams end up with these sweet publicly-funded arena deals. Best thing working in SA’s favor is that Austin may be too woke to go for anything like that. On the flip side, private capital may be willing to foot the entire bill for it to be in Austin. And of course, if relo is truly on the table, Las Vegas and Seattle are going to want to have a conversation.
I hope people aren’t truly too naive to see what is happening here. The Spurs are stacking the leverage in their favor, and I don’t think they’ll be afraid to pull the trigger if they don’t get what they want from SA and Bexar Co.
How about splitting them around, maybe almost half at the AT&T Center, select dates around fiesta etc. Then do a quarter at Moody, maybe a few primetime matchups especially when students are in session. And then some smaller matchups offsetting the 2k less seats but for games that would sell <16k if held in SA instead.
Then the remaining home games in Mexico as a feature, maybe a 1-2 week long team residency so they settle in for the advantage still. The rest are huge marquee games at Alamo maybe 3-6x Lakers Warriors etc or maybe holiday games. Or split the dome, book a daytime tipoff and sell a poplar concert at the other end of the dome for 1 hr after the game ends.
just posting but what if they went regional with it
I disagree. If they had to pay for their own arena I think they stay in San Antonio. Problem is they aren’t going to have to pay for their own arena.
You build your fan base as a winning team not when you are losing. The Spurs sound desperate.
Austin is a city that most Texans find lost it's charm. I have been an avid fan of the Spurs since 78. I live in the RGV. Most I know would see the Spurs as no different than the Mavs or Rockets if they moved to Austin. It was probably end our support for team. San Antonio is the place that the RGV connects with. Not Austin, or Houston or Dallas.
Probably should play a game or two in El Paso like they did in Austin. Maybe one in Albuquerque if this is their plan.
Me rambling here: Bexar County I believe has to approve games played outside ATT Center as we saw this season. I think Bexar County has some vested interest in the arena as it was publicly funded, though basically they just handed it over to the Spurs so they can make money as far as I can tell, corporate socialism if you will. Local government always prostrates themself to large companies so I think the Spurs definitely have the upper hand.
I would be ok for like 5 games in Monterey and 5 in Austin, but with the understanding that Spurs will likely do what they are able to do when the time comes. Spurs ownership is probably the poorest, so to speak, in all major sports and they seem to be looking for some rich people to get involved. Once that happens, then who knows what happens.
*steps off soapbox
The Spurs aren't moving to Austin. Be more likely they moved to Vegas than Austin tbh. Don't think either happens though. They are definitely going to be demanding when it comes to the new stadium though and the city of SA will step up.
Best bet is the cartels launder money circuitously to the Spurs with an ownership stake and get involved in building a new arena. Joking?
ST loves some chisme
I mean the SA economy is tourism, real estate, USAA, healthcare, and narco money laundering, with a dash of California money now muddying the waters, and Rackspace, I suppose.
Building an arena out 281 or I-10 probably makes some sense if they did some sort of living/shopping combination, but still doesn’t solve high end money coming into the team.
Anyway…
you forgot bioscience, cybersecurity, IT and aerospace. it's not much but something.
Add in that SA is 32nd in metro areas ranked by GDP
One of their goals I think is to increase their local TV revenue. I'm purely speculating here, but teams can reap in huge amounts on local TV revenue. I know the Lakers get more from their local TV contract than some teams get in total revenue
From 2017
The biggest local TV deals also raise the cap level for everyone. The Lakers and Knicks both made more than $100 million from local media deals last season. Only four teams even came within $100 million of the Lakers’ local media revenue. The Knicks alone made $10 million more from TV than the six lowest-earning teams combined.
I'm not sure when the Spurs next TV deal is up- but suspect this is in part the motivation to play games outside of SA.
In the early to mid 70s there was an attempt by many teams to drum up regional support- Boston played games in Providence, Philadelphia played in Hershey and Pittsburgh
Houston played more than 10 games at Hemisfair Arena
Didn't seem to work- but a different era
I forgot the military to be honest which overlaps with some of those things.
Regardless, while a living/entertainment/shopping venue with a stadium makes sense in general, SA already has a trail of tears of existing arenas and spaces. The Tobin center would fight a new arena to cut into their performance center and new southside venue. Lots of collaboration would have to happen.
Just rambling…
ATX thinks it's little LA but it's really glorified Knoxville
Sorry to the Austinites I know that's an unpopular opinion but ATX is such a plastic hole imho and it seems so impulsive to bail on historic legacy for some flash in the pan fickle fanbase with superficial loyalty. The students go back to daddy's ranch in may they won't even be in town to support deep playoff runs.
Sorry I'm panicking that this is some selfish money motivations but how the does SA run out of money/need to look elsewhere before say OKC market or like SAC? SA is a massive metro area. I blame Silver dude is a cash goblin milking the Association and all the sudden nothing is good enough or prosperous enough hmmmm. If you can't make Spur work win SA just shut it down altogether. Some investors are starving I guess?
In the end it's just due diligence and brand expansion and nothing should change most likely but seriously can we stop being so obsessed with every last cent coming in and jut play some in ball?
Austin is disgusting. Can't even walk in a regular residential area without seeing some crazy homeless guy arguing with a trash can (true story). Spurs ain't moving to that dump
It would be cool if they did a game or two in Albuquerque. With the large Hispanic population it's kind of a smaller San Antonio in some respects. And it's a basketball crazed town. Lots of love for the Warriors and Lakers there, however.
do a weekend residency in USVI with Tim Duncan guesting as a promotional curator and stoke that Caribbean viewership market
Calypso Coyote mascot routines, spurs speedos and flip flop merch opportunities. NBA expansion test. Bill Land works on his tan, Sean grabs a Pina colada lol work with me here, people
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