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    The Mavs don't have any picks incoming, at least per this: https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/dr...rafts/detailed

    IMO, simply stripping them of pick 10 would be the harshest punishment (as opposed to letting it go to NYK this year). It would mean they tanked out of the playoffs for nothing, they'd still owe that pick to NYK for the next two seasons worth of lotto protection, and they'd be unable to trade away their 25 or 26 pick due to those protections. They already can't trade away their 28 pick because they traded their 29 pick, meaning the only have one tradeable FRP left to try and improve the roster. They might end up forced into a position where they have to move Luka for a haul in order to rebuild their team.

    You hate to see it.
    Not about Mavs themselves, but league wide message. All those picks and protections, swaps are just impossible to follow.

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    100%. And a good reminder to not put too much stock in the summer league, where Blake looked great and Bran looked terrible. At this point, I really like Bran in that 6th man microwave role we hoped Lonnie could grow into, whereas I'm not sure Blake is an NBA player.
    Ya - I mean Im not down on Wesley - he had some spurts that really stood out, but he was more in line with expectations of being raw. Branham just leaped so damn much as year went on that it’s wild.

    He looks like a legit player already - this off season is so huge for Spurs on every level (continued work for Vassell/Keldon/Sochan/Branham/Wesley, draft, etc..)

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    Spurs had ONE ing job!

    That said, tank well done fellas

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    Well, this season ing blew

    idiots could not even tank properly

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    It's done. Finally.

    Enjoyed most of the season, I don't mind losing, but all the DNPs made it difficult to watch because we're watching a lot of players that have no future in Spurs uniform or even in the league. Still, it had to be done.

    I don't expect Spurs to make the playoffs next season, even with Wemby, but I really hope this was the only blatant tank season. Develop the young guys and let them play their best. Another season of this would have a negative impact on the entire franchise.

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    Nah - Spurs could tank again with how they do it and be fine. This isn’t HOU with terrible losing culture and no accountability.

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    Spurs are better than lots of teams, just missing their star.

    If you swapped Luka onto this years Spurs, they are so much better than Dallas it’s laughable. Just need their guy.

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    Spurs are better than lots of teams, just missing their star.

    If you swapped Luka onto this years Spurs, they are so much better than Dallas it’s laughable. Just need their guy.

    That's why Spurs can't tank the next season. It took a lot of effort to get top3 and everyone relevant in the roster should get better.
    Add a top3 pick (hopefully) and we'll have a season similar to what Thunder, Pacers and Jazz had this season.

    Play the next season out, see what's the actual ceiling of this roster with another lottery pick and then make a big move in 2024 with all that cap space.

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    Spurs are better than lots of teams, just missing their star.

    If you swapped Luka onto this years Spurs, they are so much better than Dallas it’s laughable. Just need their guy.
    San Antonio Receives: Luka Doncic

    Dallas Receives: Keldon Johnson, Devin Vassell, 2024 SAS Unprotected FRP, 2025 FRP From CHI, 2025 FRP from ATL, 2027 FRP from ATL

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    San Antonio Receives: Luka Doncic

    Dallas Receives: Keldon Johnson, Devin Vassell, 2024 SAS Unprotected FRP, 2025 FRP From CHI, 2025 FRP from ATL, 2027 FRP from ATL
    NBA Trade Machine says this decreases Spurs expected wins by 27. Jokes on you, mother ers.

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    Rox getting wrecked straight out of the gate.

    Dallas needs to lose wwaaaaayyy more than the Spurs do. Everyone swore the Spurs would outtank the Blazers and they didn't.
    Portland basically laid down, and put their heels up in the air today. They lost by 56 points.

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    Ya - I mean Im not down on Wesley - he had some spurts that really stood out, but he was more in line with expectations of being raw. Branham just leaped so damn much as year went on that it’s wild.

    He looks like a legit player already - this off season is so huge for Spurs on every level (continued work for Vassell/Keldon/Sochan/Branham/Wesley, draft, etc..)
    I've watched a good number of Spurs games in opposing broadcasts and they always comment on Branham.

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    San Antonio Receives: Luka Doncic

    Dallas Receives: Keldon Johnson, Devin Vassell, 2024 SAS Unprotected FRP, 2025 FRP From CHI, 2025 FRP from ATL, 2027 FRP from ATL
    Call me crazy, but I wouldn't do it. It forces the Spurs to go into win now mode, will likely burn our assets and push the rookies timeline, and probably won't be enough to retain Luka in a couple of years when his contract expires. Those blockbusters need a very tight alignment of cir stances and we're not ready yet.

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    If Dallas gets Victor, I stop watching the NBA tbh.

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    We did it, boys! Last place in the west.

    Rockets ending on a 3 game win streak

    Gobert trying to punch Kyle Anderson

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    Spurs are better than lots of teams, just missing their star.

    If you swapped Luka onto this years Spurs, they are so much better than Dallas it’s laughable. Just need their guy.
    At the homer ism, delusion and exceptionalism all in one.

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    Hey guys, when will the tie-breaker be determined with the Rockets?

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    At the homer ism, delusion and exceptionalism all in one.
    It’s not homerism. Spurs with Luka > Dallas with Luka.

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    Hey guys, when will the tie-breaker be determined with the Rockets?
    usually some time after regular season ends, say a week or so. Haven't read specifics this year though. Still, tie-breaker only tells us which will get the upper hand if both fall outside top 4, but whoever wins the tiebreaker could end up with a worse pick than the other once the lottery is done.

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    Call me crazy, but I wouldn't do it. It forces the Spurs to go into win now mode, will likely burn our assets and push the rookies timeline, and probably won't be enough to retain Luka in a couple of years when his contract expires. Those blockbusters need a very tight alignment of cir stances and we're not ready yet.
    I think you would like the idea more if the pieces were shifted a bit. If I was negotiating a deal with Dallas, I think I would try to include bad contracts based on the idea that it doesn't hurt them if they tank next year but it hurts us if we're trying to add free agents. If I could get away with it, I would also emphasize adding second round picks in lieu of another first round pick on the rationalization that we have a glut (we have our own + 11 extra second round picks) while Dallas has a shortage (1 total second round pick in the next 7 drafts).

    San Antonio receives: Luka Doncic

    Dallas receives: Keldon Johnson, Khem Birch, Devonte Graham, 3 first round picks including this year's (assuming not top 2), 4 second round picks

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    Took to the last game of the season but san antonio secured their destiny!

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    Took to the last game of the season but san antonio secured their destiny!
    #5 pick here we come!

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    Well, this season ing blew

    idiots could not even tank properly
    No one has higher odds at Wemby than us. Mission accomplished.

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    #5 pick here we come!
    better then 6th

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    Can't wait to see that mural of... Jarace Walker in downtown SA.

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