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Any scoop on the Spurs exit interviews?
Keldon is the leader of the team on a good contract. I can’t see him being traded soon. Mamu going to be a fan favorite like Matt Bonner, he isn’t going anywhere.
Any scoop on the Spurs exit interviews?
Only player that could be a star imvho is Sochan. Maybe Branham could be considered that by the media in that he could be a 24ppg scorer and be on the level of a CJ McCollum.
I think the team has great role players, which is super important. Obviously we just need some game changing talent. Though, Im also ok with the team growing organically and whatever happens happens. I see us as opposite Of Dallas in that sense.
Just rambling…
Nothing major will happen over the summer, we just need to get lucky with a top3 pick and then play the next season out at full strength, without any needless DNPs.
Sochan, Vassell and Branham could take another step in their development, maybe Mamu becomes a legit role-player, but that's about it.
Jones will be a solid backup, Graham and Doug need to go asap. I guess that depends on who gets drafted.
Keep the cap space, take some more gambles with players like Bassey and Mamu, then make a big move in 2024.
Keldon seems to be a great presence and a good leader, but he'll never get to all-star level. Still, I'd keep him unless there's a good deal to be made.
keldon:
i think keldon gets moved eventually but closer to the end of his deal. its not like the spurs have a way to upgrade at the position with the guys they have, and barring some catastrophic injury, he'll have good trade value 3 years from now as well, so its not like they're on a timer to get anything done.
in the meantime he is a good scorer and has a leadership role on the team. most teams that would want keldon aren't exactly flush with an excess of first round picks at the moment anyway, so theres little point in shopping him around at this point.
branham: yes he has that "natural scorer" feel to him with good touch, but he's going to have to make big improvements as to at least 2 of the following attributes to really make himself a viable long term piece:
1) 3 point shooting (his percentage was bad, and his release point is very bad)
2) defense
3) combo guard duties (ball handling, passing)
the league simply doesnt have space for a 2 point scoring specialist at guard
graham: not sure who would want to trade for him, or what we could realistically get for him at this point. 1, maybe 2 seconds at his current value. he's not even a true expiring contract with about 3 mil guaranteed for 24-25
The weird thing about the season is, I have really no idea who is actually injured and who is just sitting. It looks like Jones might’ve actually been injured because he’s looks better lately though, I still wanted him to make more of an improvement this year from his solid work last year. I agree he’s our weak link as for starters.
i could see benching and load management here and there but the guy played 56/82 games
The only real injuries were Devin's meniscus and Blake's MCL. Everything else was just players getting banged up and being held out for unreasonable amounts of time. I once joked that if your shoe came untied during play on the court, you would be held out the next game, and it almost came to that.
Edit: Add one more legit injury: Bassey's fractured patella (non-displaced)
Last edited by exstatic; 04-10-2023 at 02:55 PM.
Do the Spurs only have their own draft picks this off season? Too much movement there for me to keep track.
Spurs have their own 1st and 2nd and Toronto’s 2nd.
Thank you!
This spurred a couple of thoughts for me:
1) what are the thoughts on what the spurs record would have been had our current assumed starting line up (Tre, Devin, Keldon, Sochan, Collins) had played a “normal” amount this year together. I’m guessing we move from 22-60 to something more like 30-35 wins.
2) This might be a hot take, but I’d actually say Keldon is the one player to be replaced for the team to improve, in large part because of the role our SF needs to play as opposed to being a reflection on Keldon’s talent. I feel like Tre is capable of being a low level starter, whereas Keldon is not really capable of being the first or second option.
With that said, I’m by no means shopping Keldon this offseason because I feel like I must move him. I like Keldon and think he can be a very solid role player, he just isn’t the “future all star” some on this board proclaimed. He’s not suitable as a go-to guy.
With that said, depending on how the lotto balls bounce, I would consider moving Keldon under some cir stances, such as:
We land #1 and get Wemby. At that point, I’m probably looking to build around him faster. I’d look to try and package Keldon and Devin for a more potent scoring guard. An example would be (without trying to evaluate the appeal of these moves for the other team or how realistic they are) someone like Jordan Poole, Benn Mathurin, Jaden Ivey. Starting 5 would be: Tre, Poole/Ivey/Mathurin, Sochan, Wemby, Collins.
FWIW finally tried the Tankathon and we got #1 two out of 8. Meanwhile, Keldon will be here and Vassell hopefully will remain healthy. Highlight of the year was Sochan, but also digging Mamu, Champagne, Branham, Tre, and Collins. Fingers crossed for May 16th.
Tbh Spurs would be the last team to trade two locker room fixtures like KJ and Vassell right away like that. It would send a bad message. I would expect less loyalty from Wemba come contract time if that happens.
I understand your point, and perhaps it is a different time now - but this is basically the 1989 model. We had Sean and David coming in, so we shipped out some of our other promising youth for the right pieces to surround them with.
However, I do see your point. I’m a little down on Devin given how his defense has somewhat regressed and he can’t seem to stay healthy, but maybe he makes the jump to a reliable #2 to Wemby (assuming Sochan isn’t the guy who develops into that #2).
Of course, no need to really worry about this until that #1 ping pong ball is ours, just full filler talk while we wait for a coin flip and then a game of bingo in a month.
Agree, they’d have to be wowed. It’s have to be something big like the Blazers panicking after Dame’s most recent comments and offering the #8 pick for Keldon.
I did see a story today Portland wants to trade the pick if it’s not number one.
Considering how they the bed last year, I don’t blame them.
I wouldn't rush things at all. That's what leads to Luka like scenarios down the road, when you actually do need to put together a compe ive team (3 years down the road). In any case, I wouldn't trade Vassell unless he's got unreasonable extension demands that make him unlikely to stay with the team. Otherwise, he's probably our most likely future 2nd / 3rd option on offense, while being capable of not being a liability on the other end (if he puts in the effort).
Also, if I'm trading for someone, it's not a one way guy like Poole who's got a star like contract (around 4 years 140 million), or Mathurin (big scoring potential but not 2 way player). Ivey has been disappointing IMO, he's been underwhelming defensively and not as efficient on offense or as a creator as expected. I would put together an offer in the right cir stances (say Detroit lands no. 2 and wants Scoot or one of the Thompsons, then I'd do Keldon + Charlotte's first + a few seconds for Ivey). But I'd only trade when there's a clear benefit ahead in terms of talent or fit, and IMO here there's not.
If there is a chance I'd love to trade some assets to grab Jaylen Brown instead.
I wouldn’t trade Keldon for the #8 pick this year. That’s my initial thought. I guess if they were really high on Anthony Black or Hendricks or Keyonte, but seems like a bad draft to trade Keldon for a likely worse player.
Why give up even a SRP when he's a UFA in 2024? Makes no sense.
There's no chance he walks, Celtics aren't that dumb.
Either he signs an extension or they trade him before the deadline. Or S&T.
Celtics don't have a choice. It's his call, since he's unrestricted. Any trade they try will be selling low, since 29 other teams know he's unrestricted in a year.
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