DeSantis / Youngkin 2024

[ChumpDumper]

Great optics tbh.

[Adam Lambert]

I'm pro-choice, even if it's a "convenience abortion" early after conceiving or in the first trimester, but the big elephant in the room you're missing is that sex is just that... a choice. Unless you're raped, which is very rare despite what you see sensationalized on the news... sex is a choice.

You don't cede your bodily autonomy to the government for 40 weeks as a consequence of a legal, natural and common choice.

Sex is a choice... going to the grocery store is NOT a choice. Are you saying people should starve because they choose to not have their body violated by a very questionable, potentially long-term poisonous DNA-altering "vaccine" manufactured by BigPharma, with the help of Communist China? Are you saying people should starve because they have asthma, chronic sinus congestion, breathing disorders or other issues that may not allow them to comfortably wear a mask fully over their nose?

Going to the grocery store is absolutely a choice. You can drive thru for food. You can order for curbside pickup. You can use Instacart or Amazon Fresh.

Or, if you can't or don't want to do any of those things, you can put a cheap little mask over your face for a few minutes instead of whining like an en led baby about it.

Frankly, the grocery store was a bad example anyway because even the strictest local vaccine mandates in the country excluded grocery stores from the requirement. You en led babies wanted to skip an easy and harmless shot to go to concerts and restaurants while people died from a lack of hospital beds. Selfish en led babies.

[Millennial_Messiah]

You don't cede your bodily autonomy to the government for 40 weeks as a consequence of a legal, natural and common choice.



Going to the grocery store is absolutely a choice. You can drive thru for food. You can order for curbside pickup. You can use Instacart or Amazon Fresh.

Or, if you can't or don't want to do any of those things, you can put a cheap little mask over your face for a few minutes instead of whining like an en led baby about it.

Frankly, the grocery store was a bad example anyway because even the strictest local vaccine mandates in the country excluded grocery stores from the requirement. You en led babies wanted to skip an easy and harmless shot to go to concerts and restaurants while people died from a lack of hospital beds. Selfish en led babies.

#CommunistKGBLogic
#StalinistLogic

Telling people they have to pay extra (curbside pickup is not a free service) in order to live a basic free life is communofascism. Totalitarian, draconian, pro-strong government, and NOT WHAT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WAS FOUNDED ON.

The country will not be made great again until 100% of Thomas Hobbes thinkers are executed without due process. They are fake humans and do not belong in existence in the universe, much less in the USA.

also, at "easy and harmless" when those poison shots will kill 40% of those jabbed within 10 years, regardless of age, and have caused a six-fold e in infertility cases (and irregular periods) in menstruation age young women.

shoplifting

What a child.

It's justified 100% because I didn't vote for inflation, Biden, or the chinavirus being made in the lab.

[Adam Lambert]

#CommunistKGBLogic
#StalinistLogic

Telling people they have to pay extra (curbside pickup is not a free service) in order to live a basic free life is communofascism. Totalitarian, draconian, pro-strong government, and NOT WHAT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WAS FOUNDED ON.

The country will not be made great again until 100% of Thomas Hobbes thinkers are executed without due process. They are fake humans and do not belong in existence in the universe, much less in the USA.

also, at "easy and harmless" when those poison shots will kill 40% of those jabbed within 10 years, regardless of age, and have caused a six-fold e in infertility cases (and irregular periods) in menstruation age young women..

Curbside pickup was largely free during COVID. Even if it wasn't, the easy way around that is to not be an en led baby and put a mask on.

I should have known better than to engage your dumb ass.

[Ef-man]

Telling people they have to pay extra (curbside pickup is not a free service) in order to live a basic free life .

Nice, you are telling me you are living pay check to pay check without saying it.

[ChumpDumper]

[B]It's justified 100% because I didn't vote for inflation, Biden, or the chinavirus being made in the lab.

no it isn't

You're just a common thief.

[Millennial_Messiah]

no it isn't

You're just a common thief.

Coming from one who supports the party that stole the 2020 election, i.e. the great heist of our nation's history... absurdly hilarious, pathetic, and hypocritical.

[ChumpDumper]

Coming from one who supports the party that stole the 2020 election, i.e. the great heist of our nation's history... absurdly hilarious, pathetic, and hypocritical.

Walk me through how we stole the 2020 election.

This should be good.

[Will Hunting]

Coming from one who supports the party that stole the 2020 election, i.e. the great heist of our nation's history... absurdly hilarious, pathetic, and hypocritical.

I see you’ve already broke character on your “I’m not a trump supporter” shtick

[Millennial_Messiah]

I see you’ve already broke character on your “I’m not a trump supporter” shtick

Walk me through how we stole the 2020 election.

This should be good.

I'm not a Trump supporter because of the way he reacted to everything and the way he full on ed over the midterms by propping up loser candidates like Herschel Walker and Tim Michels, and his stale messaging and poor leadership in getting out the vote / telling people to only vote on election day in person and that he's gone off the deep end with conspiracies since 2020, also he waffled on covid, operation warp speed et al., was not tough at all on the summer 2020 crime which indisputably benefited the left.

Still doesn't mean the 2020 election wasn't full of carefully planned shenanigans, from the Fulton County GA leak to having dead peoples' blue votes count in AZ (and having Fox News be the one and only one network call AZ for Biden waaaaaay early and Fox's 100% track record providing ethos to back that), to the massive ballot harvesting and late counting of the Democrat votes just so they could get the perfect margins in PA/MI/WI... all rubbish.

If you really buy that Biden got 81 million votes then you're living in fantasy land. Then again I believe Trump didn't get the 75 million either. There has never been that exponential of an increase in voter turnout from one election cycle to four years later. I believe, based on analytics from a normal cycle-over-cycle increase in voter turnout, that the accurate number was more like Biden 68-69 Million to Trump 66-67 Million (Source: Hillary 65.8M - Trump 62.9M = ~129M in 2016; Obama 65.9M - Romney 60.9M = ~127M turnout in 2012) based on the overall national environment which was about D+2 - D+3 in 2020. But that still would have likely netted a Trump win in the electoral college.

[Ef-man]

I'm a Trump supporter and would have liked a Trump win in the electoral college.

FIFY

[Will Hunting]

I'm not a Trump supporter because of the way he reacted to everything and the way he full on ed over the midterms by propping up loser candidates like Herschel Walker and Tim Michels, and his stale messaging and poor leadership in getting out the vote / telling people to only vote on election day in person and that he's gone off the deep end with conspiracies since 2020, also he waffled on covid, operation warp speed et al., was not tough at all on the summer 2020 crime which indisputably benefited the left.

you're pretending you hated these trumpy candidates all along but you were singing their praises before the election

Majewski

I met Majewski twice, once in Wisconsin and the other time just last Saturday in Youngstown OH. Great dude. And the GOP gerrymandered it, so he's going to beat that dingbat old bag Marcy Kaptur by over 5 percent. Bye Bye Nancy Pelosi of the Midwest.

Should be term limits anyway for everyone in congress in both chambers... those like Mitch, Kaptur, Pelosi, Schumer, Inhofe etc. 4 senate terms and 12 house terms maximum per lifetime.

Still doesn't mean the 2020 election wasn't full of carefully planned shenanigans, from the Fulton County GA leak to having dead peoples' blue votes count in AZ (and having Fox News be the one and only one network call AZ for Biden waaaaaay early and Fox's 100% track record providing ethos to back that), to the massive ballot harvesting and late counting of the Democrat votes just so they could get the perfect margins in PA/MI/WI... all rubbish.

PA/MI/WI all had laws on the books that required mail ballots to not get processed until election day, which all but ensured they'd be last to get counted. The Dem governor in all 3 states tried changing the law before the election but the GOP-controlled state legislatures refused (literally because they knew re ed rubes like you were buy into the bull that elections were rigged if each state started with a huge Trump lead that was closed after the mail ballots got counted).

Regarding dead people voting, there were 4 recorded instances of dead people voting in PA, and all 4 of those votes were cast for Trump. List specific examples of dead people who voted for Biden or fold.

There has never been that exponential of an increase in voter turnout from one election cycle to four years later. I believe, based on analytics from a normal cycle-over-cycle increase in voter turnout, that the accurate number was more like Biden 68-69 Million to Trump 66-67 Million (Source: Hillary 65.8M - Trump 62.9M = ~129M in 2016; Obama 65.9M - Romney 60.9M = ~127M turnout in 2012) based on the overall national environment which was about D+2 - D+3 in 2020. But that still would have likely netted a Trump win in the electoral college.

The 2016 presidential election had 135,719,982 total votes (you're missing 3rd party votes)
The 2020 presidential election had 158,429,631 total votes
That's a 17% increase from 2016 to 2020.

The 2000 presidential election had 105,421,423 total votes
The 2004 presidential election had 122,295,345 total votes
That's a 16% increase from 2000 to 2004.

The 1988 presidential election had 91,594,686 total votes
The 1992 presidential election 104,423,923 total votes
That's a 13% increase from 1998 to 1992.

The "exponential" (I'd hardly call 17% exponential but I understand that numbers aren't your thing) increase from 2016 to 2020 was nearly identical to the increase we had the last time a polarizing in bent Republican was on the ballot and it wasn't much more than the time before that when an in bent Republican was on the ballot.

This range also isn't anywhere near the largest change in turnout from one 4 year cycle to the other. Midterm turnout increased 45% from 2014 (78,235,240) to 2018 (113,412,989).

What exactly are you basing your statement that a increase in turnout from one election to the other had never happened before? I'm anxious to know.

[Millennial_Messiah]

PA/MI/WI all had laws on the books that required mail ballots to not get processed until election day, which all but ensured they'd be last to get counted. The Dem governor in all 3 states tried changing the law before the election but the GOP-controlled state legislatures refused (literally because they knew re ed rubes like you were buy into the bull that elections were rigged if each state started with a huge Trump lead that was closed after the mail ballots got counted).

show me articles proving that Wolf/Whitmer/Evers wanted the counting to be done concurrently and the state legislatures in each state blocking them to support your "red mirage" theory.

[Winehole23]

You should try an online search to spare yourself the embarrassment.

[Ef-man]

You should try an online search to spare yourself the embarrassment.

You think he has reached the bottom of embarrassment? He just posted, "Hold my beer!"

[Will Hunting]

show me articles proving that Wolf/Whitmer/Evers wanted the counting to be done concurrently and the state legislatures in each state blocking them to support your "red mirage" theory.

Pennsylvania:
https://apnews.com/article/election-...2b58e3e3cded88

Allowing as many as 21 days to process mail-in ballots before Election Day has been the counties’ top election priority for months, a request backed by Wolf and his fellow Democrats.

Michigan, where the state leg begrudgingly passed a law that allowed processing for 10 hours the day before election day while Benson and Whitmer wanted more processing time. It also didn't allow tabulating of mail ballots until election day even though Florida (the best ballot counting state in the country) processes and counts mail ballots as they come in.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...cessing-426809

Benson had advocated for allowing for more time to process ballots, but the legislature did not go along with the plan. “It is a step in the right direction, but it does not go far enough,” Benson said.

In Wisconsin the county clerks have been screaming for years about how the law should be changed, while the state leg refuses to address it:
https://wisconsinwatch.org/2020/12/w...ssing-changes/

Some lawmakers were poised to act even before the pandemic prompted an unprecedented 59% of Wisconsinites who voted to cast absentee ballots in the general election — a massive increase over previous elections.


A bipartisan bill proposed by Sen. Devin LeMahieu, R-Oostburg, in November 2019 would have made it possible for municipalities to begin processing absentee ballots on the day before an election. The bill failed to pass before the end of the session. In mid-October, nearly two dozen Democratic lawmakers sent a letter to Assembly Speaker Robin Vos, R-Rochester, and Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald, R-Juneau, urging them to pass the bill.


“Election integrity is of utmost concern for voters in Wisconsin,” the lawmakers wrote, “and the longer the count takes, the more potential for mistrust in results to be fomented by those who mean harm to our democracy.”

Heck, the WI Dems pushed again to change these laws in 2022, but once again the bills allowing earlier processing of mail ballots never made it out of committee:
https://apnews.com/article/elections...db0217bfcd4b73


This article explains how MI/WI/PA are 3 of the few states that still have archaic laws about when mail ballots can be processed/counted:
https://www.statesman.com/story/news...ay/3903278001/

But few go as far as Wisconsin in not allowing any ballot processing until that day. Only Alabama, Indiana, Mississippi, Pennsylvania, West Virginia and Wyoming require that ballots not be processed until Election Day. (Michigan requires smaller cities to wait until Election Day, while those with 25,000 or more people can start a day early.)

[Will Hunting]

You should try an online search to spare yourself the embarrassment.

I like how he asked me to link articles as some sort of gotcha when anyone who followed politics in 2020 and didn't live in a right wing information bubble knew how Wolfe/Evers/Whitmer were all lobbying to allow earlier ballot processing while the GOP state leg in PA/WI/MI either did nothing at all or passed a watered down bill that allowed ballot processing a day early (as if that really does anything to solve for how much time is required to process hundreds of thousands of mail ballots).

[Joseph Kony]

imagine telling people that actually lived in the USSR or Nazi Germany that the US was the same because you have to wear a mask at the grocery store or because you could vote by mail

[Millennial_Messiah]

Michigan, where the state leg begrudgingly passed a law that allowed processing for 10 hours the day before election day while Benson and Whitmer wanted more processing time. It also didn't allow tabulating of mail ballots until election day even though Florida (the best ballot counting state in the country) processes and counts mail ballots as they come in.

Sweet Florida

we all remember 2000... it's pretty amazing how far along it's come since. FL always callable on election day. PA/WI/MI would be the worst but they're not because somehow AZ/NV always manage to be THE WORST for whatever reason... ...

Based Ron DeSantis for using the mail in system to his advantage and winning by 19.5%, as opposed to Trump and QAnon candidates like Qari Lake campaigning that "if you don't vote on election day, your vote will be discounted or changed to blue".

I like how he asked me to link articles as some sort of gotcha when anyone who followed politics in 2020 and didn't live in a right wing information bubble knew how Wolfe/Evers/Whitmer were all lobbying to allow earlier ballot processing while the GOP state leg in PA/WI/MI either did nothing at all or passed a watered down bill that allowed ballot processing a day early (as if that really does anything to solve for how much time is required to process hundreds of thousands of mail ballots).

The curious thing is that how come all of the elections in the swing states (PA/MI/WI/GA) except AZ and NV callable on midterm election night 2022 but not in 2020 even though you had the same governors and essentially the same state legislatures in all of those 6 states.

[Adam Lambert]

Remember how we used to call derp DK? This dude is almost a better example.

[Will Hunting]

Sweet Florida

we all remember 2000... it's pretty amazing how far along it's come since. FL always callable on election day. PA/WI/MI would be the worst but they're not because somehow AZ/NV always manage to be THE WORST for whatever reason... ...

Based Ron DeSantis for using the mail in system to his advantage and winning by 19.5%, as opposed to Trump and QAnon candidates like Qari Lake campaigning that "if you don't vote on election day, your vote will be discounted or changed to blue".

Cool non sequitur. Your capitulation is duly noted.

The curious thing is that how come all of the elections in the swing states (PA/MI/WI/GA) except AZ and NV callable on midterm election night 2022 but not in 2020 even though you had the same governors and essentially the same state legislatures in all of those 6 states.

PA and MI were callable on election night in 2022 because they were blowouts, and there was also less mail to process. 2020 involved both record turnout levels and record amounts of people voting by mail because of COVID. By 2022 a lot of people had reverted back to their old habits of voting in person.

Nevada lets ballots come in over a week after e-day which drags the entire process out. Arizona's issue was that like 300,000 people in Maricopa dropped their ballot off on election day, a record number no one saw coming, so they had limited staff to process the surge of "late early" drop offs.

[Winehole23]

I like how he asked me to link articles as some sort of gotcha when anyone who followed politics in 2020 and didn't live in a right wing information bubble knew how Wolfe/Evers/Whitmer were all lobbying to allow earlier ballot processing while the GOP state leg in PA/WI/MI either did nothing at all or passed a watered down bill that allowed ballot processing a day early (as if that really does anything to solve for how much time is required to process hundreds of thousands of mail ballots).

not only that, Bannon was openly talking about the red mirage and declaring victory on election night. it's not really a conspiracy if the plotting is done in public.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Nevada lets ballots come in over a week after e-day which drags the entire process out. Arizona's issue was that like 300,000 people in Maricopa dropped their ballot off on election day, a record number no one saw coming, so they had limited staff to process the surge of "late early" drop offs.

I see NV/AZ/CA as all having major flaws in their vote counting process and needing major adjustments to be done prior to 2024. The process of letting ballots come in a week after e-day is ridiculous. America should know the results by midnight the night-of.

If every state would just follow Florida's counting laws, Ohio's gerrymandering rules, Georgia's covid policy, Texas's energy policy and have, say, Vermont's climate... life would be nice

[Will Hunting]

I like how MM tries to change the subject by acting like a dopey re every time he gets shat on

[ElNono]

I like how MM tries to change the subject by acting like a dopey re every time he gets shat on

Didn't he just post that the Roe issue was a fad from the left followed by Wisconsin taking an ample on that take?