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    The draft process hasn't even started yet. I don't think the teams can even contact the payers at this point, so they've only seen them from the stands. This is nothing more than the same big board almost everyone has at this point with some mysterious 'I've talked to people' stuff, and some EC scout seems to think Brandon Miller is off the table and some other unaffiliated scout thinks they could take Amen at two

    The Spurs are ferociously and infamously close lipped about what they want to do during drafts. They often hide who they have worked out. They may have at times leaked interest in players they don't actually value.

    They could certainly have the Thompsons and Henderson as their Tier Two guys. Everyone else does. It would be unusal if the provider of a message board could manage to get a different board out of them at this point, or at any point. It's all speculation. I personally doubt some of the conclusions, and Timvp isn't accounting for some pretty vital things like the rookie scale, but coming up with a Version 1.0 of a draft board before the draft seasion is official and this Version 1.0 is pretty much the same as anyone else's.

    I don't even think this more-or-less draft order is going to be different on draft day no matter what the order winds up becoming. The real question is what the Spurs will actually do on the day. We won't know because they never tell.
    I don’t think boards are as consensus as you are making them out to be. Especially with The Twins…after pick 1-3, there’s more variance than usual it feels like…

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    Dream scenario: Spurs land pick 1 and trade up to land Amen/Ausar as well using future picks

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    Getting the third pick in the lottery and just passing on Miller would be straight up dumb.

    Sure, they don't want him, I get that. But not getting another team to trade up for him and give us something extra would be a borderline fireable (no pun intended) offense.

    Idk, there's just too much uncertainty, as per usual. I'll more or less ignore everything draft related until the lottery. Too many variables to think about right now.
    I agree on letting another team trade up for Miller if he is not the player Spurs like at 2. Getting Amen plus another lottery pick would be awesome.

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    Well they can trade down if they dislike miller that much. Like a doncic Trae trade

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    Last year there was a strong rumor that the Spurs could be targeting Mark Williams at no. 9, and the player most often linked to the Spurs was Duren, and we passed on both.
    If I was on the Spurs FO and didn't have a clear player at no. 2-5, this is exactly the kind of message I'd be trying to send accross the NBA, laying the foundation for a possible future trade down. So this would be consistent with both the Spurs wanting the Thompsons, and NOT wanting them. It's wait and see

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    I don’t think boards are as consensus as you are making them out to be. Especially with The Twins…after pick 1-3, there’s more variance than usual it feels like…
    Yeah, I think I said there would be variance, but I think these will be the top 8. Anyway, at this point this is basically what everyone has, other than maybe Cason Wallace. There are some people sticking Nick Smith in there, but it's not common anymore.

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    Personally, I have a feeling that the Spurs aren't really enamored with anyone at the top other than Wemby, and that the likeliest target is actually Hendricks. I didn't watch UCF like at all so he went under the radar for me, but watching clips of him he seems to be the young, long, athletic and smart player who has a good enough floor as is with his defense and shooting, and if he works hard enough on his ball handling, there's no saying where he ends up. The downside is we're picking high enough where that should be baseline. But it wouldn't shock me like at all if we trade down from 2-3 and end up taking Hendricks as high as 4. I'd rather get Cam Whitmore, but I'd be ok with him as well.

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    Last year there was a strong rumor that the Spurs could be targeting Mark Williams at no. 9, and the player most often linked to the Spurs was Duren, and we passed on both.
    If I was on the Spurs FO and didn't have a clear player at no. 2-5, this is exactly the kind of message I'd be trying to send accross the NBA, laying the foundation for a possible future trade down. So this would be consistent with both the Spurs wanting the Thompsons, and NOT wanting them. It's wait and see
    Yep. At one point I was feeling like Sochan was potentially rising. If the Spurs leaked out that he was close to their guy, that rise starts catching interest. I don't know if Williams or Duren were actually their interest. Maybe it's wrong to say that a leak was intentional and that it was to divert.

    This year, regardless, it's smart to say they're big on players everyone is big on at those spots. The Miller thing is just speculation from an outside scout. If the Spurs want to trade down, then the last thing you want to do is say you don't want that Amen or Ausar. You want to build up value.

    The odd thing either about this year or about this position (very new to us) is that the value to these high, non-Wembanyama picks is very long term. I don't think it's likely that Scoot or the twins are going to be able to contribute as starters right away. Maybe Scoot is, dunno.

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    It doesn't sound like the FO or anyone from the Spurs is telling this to TIMVP but various scouts are giving their opinion. So, it's an opinion. The fact that the Spurs will be picking very high, at least as high as 7, is sort of new territory for them and so I would imagine it's a little harder to hide your intentions. I mean, Wemby is #1, so really we're trying to figure out what 5 or 6 other players they are into, basically.

    For me, Hendricks and Whitmore fit less of a dire need so I would probably be most disappointed with those but still be happy we are at least getting more talent.

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    So glad we're back to off season talk. Once the dust settled after the trade deadline things got pretty boring in Spurs land. Cannot wait for the lottery.

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    33 days, 5 hours, 31 minutes and 12 seconds till we find out if it was all worth it... (W day)

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    It's interesting that the Primo pick is seen as a mistake only for character issues. I understand not drafting someone who took a gun to a murder. But to me the initial lesson was reaching for a player who isn't really that good. And so to me, I would think that would or should have some sway in picking one of the Thompson Twins. Granted, the twins at least have athleticism so it's not a direct comparison. But, can they actually play basketball at a high level?

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    If they're really targeting a twin, then I hope we either get #1 or fall to the bottom of our range. If we pick and keep one, I may have to join the 'Brian Wrong' club.

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    If they're really targeting a twin, then I hope we either get #1 or fall to the bottom of our range. If we pick and keep one, I may have to join the 'Brian Wrong' club.
    Be careful what you wish for... plenty of assets to trade up.

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    It's interesting that the Primo pick is seen as a mistake only for character issues. I understand not drafting someone who took a gun to a murder. But to me the initial lesson was reaching for a player who isn't really that good. And so to me, I would think that would or should have some sway in picking one of the Thompson Twins. Granted, the twins at least have athleticism so it's not a direct comparison. But, can they actually play basketball at a high level?
    We really have no idea. He was the youngest player in his draft class. He did a lot of nifty stuff his first Summer League, then struggled in normal games. I don't think this was too unexpected. There's no telling how this year would have gone.

    As mentioned in some thread somewhere, it really wasn't a terrible pick because that draft was essentially all but over at that point. It was a really bad draft in terms of depth. It was terrible in that they probably should have taken Sengun. There were also Trey Murphy, Herb Jones, and a couple of others, but Murphy was only pretty good in college and Jones was a surprise. Honestly don't think it was as huge a reach as people say. And declaring Primo's development as over and finished before it started doesn't make sense.

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    Amen Thompson is an exciting prospect. The athleticism along with the passing chops make him a delightful watch. But his shooting is yuck. If he improves it... a Big IF.. he is going to be a star. a Big IF though.

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    I don't understand dropping Miller after the twins.
    Draft Miller before the twins, then trade for a twin.
    Net gain, lower salary for twin, plus another asset.

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    The Spurs have been known to feign interest in certain prospects in the past to hide their true interest in the one they really want. I wouldn’t be surprised if the same thing is happening here with the Thompsons.

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    The Spurs have been known to feign interest in certain prospects in the past to hide their true interest in the one they really want. I wouldn’t be surprised if the same thing is happening here with the Thompsons.
    They floated a heart issue rumor and had Batum's agent not give anyone his medical records to try to draft him. Absolutely NOT above deception at draft time, and I hope that is what this is.

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    Mr. Bdy...do you keep posting here because your ty takes get you the attention you want?

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    Last year there was a strong rumor that the Spurs could be targeting Mark Williams at no. 9, and the player most often linked to the Spurs was Duren, and we passed on both.
    If I was on the Spurs FO and didn't have a clear player at no. 2-5, this is exactly the kind of message I'd be trying to send accross the NBA, laying the foundation for a possible future trade down. So this would be consistent with both the Spurs wanting the Thompsons, and NOT wanting them. It's wait and see
    Sochan was also linked to the spurs all along. , everyone wanted him here. I wanted Duren but I'm fine with Sochan.

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    Last year there was a strong rumor that the Spurs could be targeting Mark Williams at no. 9, and the player most often linked to the Spurs was Duren, and we passed on both.
    If I was on the Spurs FO and didn't have a clear player at no. 2-5, this is exactly the kind of message I'd be trying to send accross the NBA, laying the foundation for a possible future trade down. So this would be consistent with both the Spurs wanting the Thompsons, and NOT wanting them. It's wait and see
    Nope at 9 the player most likely linked to the Spurs was Sochan.

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    Mr. Bdy...do you keep posting here because your ty takes get you the attention you want?
    He's managed to convince a few followers like exstatic.

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    He's managed to convince a few followers like exstatic.
    While I agree with some posters here on some issues, my sourcing is external.

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    Sochan was also linked to the spurs all along. , everyone wanted him here. I wanted Duren but I'm fine with Sochan.
    Nope at 9 the player most likely linked to the Spurs was Sochan.
    Sochan was the most popular pick by Spurs fans, Duren by the media.

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