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    Yeah I know....I'm just saying that I'm not upset about losing the coin flip because the end result in the lottery is way more important.

    all about the luck now

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    I got the following:

    1. Wemb
    2. Henderson
    3. Miller
    4. Walker
    5. Cam
    6. Hendricks

    I will be honest I can not tell where to put the Twins just not enough film to watch

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    Hope we get Wemby, but if we land a top 2/3 pick and a trade back for Orlando's picks (right now at 6 and 11) allows us to get 2 of Cam Whitmore, Taylor Hendricks and Anthony Black, that's a very good option in my book. I see all 3 of those guys as good rotation players at the very least, most probable outcome being above average starters with a chance at all star level. If we use our pick, I'd also be willing to package Toronto's pick + Charlotte's pick + a boatload of seconds if they land us Hendricks in the lower half of the lottery (if he gets to 10 I think Dallas takes him).

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    Yeah at pick 6 you probably have two of these three players available- Cam, Walker, Hendricks. If we stay at 11 then your probably looking at and George. So if a trade down does happen I wonder who our pick at 6 would be and do we stay at 11 as and George are both legit or do we trade back up but I have a feeling Hendricks wii go between 7-9 - What would we pay for that ?.

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    Yeah at pick 6 you probably have two of these three players available- Cam, Walker, Hendricks. If we stay at 11 then your probably looking at and George. So if a trade down does happen I wonder who our pick at 6 would be and do we stay at 11 as and George are both legit or do we trade back up but I have a feeling Hendricks wii go between 7-9 - What would we pay for that ?.
    I doubt Orlando makes that trade. I feel like it's like how obsessed we got last year about Charlotte trading their two picks to get ours.

    But... My gut right now is that Hendricks will rise during the draft process. I think will also go top 8. The player that should be around 11 that is still underrated is Bufkin. And then there's Hawkins.

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    I take back what I just said. Looking at it again, the top 8 look sort of clear-ish right now.

    Wembanyama
    Henderson
    Miller
    Thompson
    Thompson
    Whitmore
    Jarace
    xxxx

    With xxxx being a lot of players, and that order not being determined yet. Right now it seems like Black is getting a lot of love for top 8. I do think Hendricks will pop in combines. That does mean sits lower.

    Cason Wallace might be one of those Kentucky guards who does better in the pros than in NCAA.

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    On the other hand, Sacramento is going to the second round with De'aron fox and sabonis. It doesn't take much to get that level of talent but passing on guards looking for Curry level of HOF talent is dumb. Just find a plausible all star and try to build a team from that

    Also who is this good shooting good defense SF /PF that Won't go top 3?

    True, but the Kings are also likely just as successful with a leading duo of Sabonis & Haliburton, & possibly with a higher ceiling.. it's Sabonis who's the leading impact player on that team, not Fox. Chris Paul and Allen Iverson are good examples of supposedly generational talents who could never lead their teams to les-- not because they weren't very good players, but because it's extremely difficult to win an NBA championship with a #1 option who is <6'3" and isn't Steph Curry. If someone like Houston offered, say, Tari Eason to move up to #2, a team like the Spurs could be moving forward with Eason + Brandon Miller/Taylor Hendricks/Cason Wallace, which statistically could be a better bet than going with just Scoot. , a few scouts & draftniks now are speculating that Wallace could be a better longterm project than Scoot period, which I don't think is entirely out of the question. If Scoot eventually = John Wall, is the prospect of having him in San Antonio for the next decade really that exciting?
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    Assuming we don’t get Wemby, I’d throw the kitchen sink at whoever gets him. 23 frp+ 1 or 1 extra 24 frp (not the spurs’), possibly a 25 frp (or srp if it’ll get done)+KJ. That’s what I would do on 2K. We get Wemby, create more opportunities for Dev to grow further as a wing scorer and carve out more minutes for Bran.

    Of course, this isn’t 2K and idk probably even the AI will cuss me out with that trade offer lol

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    Assuming we don’t get Wemby, I’d throw the kitchen sink at whoever gets him. 23 frp+ 1 or 1 extra 24 frp (not the spurs’), possibly a 25 frp (or srp if it’ll get done)+KJ. That’s what I would do on 2K. We get Wemby, create more opportunities for Dev to grow further as a wing scorer and carve out more minutes for Bran.

    Of course, this isn’t 2K and idk probably even the AI will cuss me out with that trade offer lol
    No one is trading pick #1.

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    I take back what I just said. Looking at it again, the top 8 look sort of clear-ish right now.

    Wembanyama
    Henderson
    Miller
    Thompson
    Thompson
    Whitmore
    Jarace
    xxxx

    With xxxx being a lot of players, and that order not being determined yet. Right now it seems like Black is getting a lot of love for top 8. I do think Hendricks will pop in combines. That does mean sits lower.

    Cason Wallace might be one of those Kentucky guards who does better in the pros than in NCAA.
    I think that's pretty much where things stand right now. I'd say Gradey 's top 8 prospects is going to come down to his athletic testing numbers. If he tests well he'll be in there.

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    No one is trading pick #1.
    I agree, especially with a generational prospect. Even when there’s no generational prospect to speak of in a draft class, I don’t think teams were THAT likely to trade #1 picks. I followed the Spurs and the NBA since 01, and I could only remember the Celts trading that #1 pick back in ‘17 (although I can’t recall if people deemed that class as strong or weak at that time).

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    I agree, especially with a generational prospect. Even when there’s no generational prospect to speak of in a draft class, I don’t think teams were THAT likely to trade #1 picks. I followed the Spurs and the NBA since 01, and I could only remember the Celts trading that #1 pick back in ‘17 (although I can’t recall if people deemed that class as strong or weak at that time).
    Wiggins was traded a month after the draft (for some reason, you have to wait that long if you don't trade a pick during the draft) for KLove at LeBron's behest after he bolted Miami and returned to Cleveland.

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    I think that's pretty much where things stand right now. I'd say Gradey 's top 8 prospects is going to come down to his athletic testing numbers. If he tests well he'll be in there.
    Yeah, I really thought had a great shot at top 8. I suppose he still does - there's always surprises and movement - but typing out what appears likeliest right now there seems to be a lot of solidity there. Of course I could see teams picking him over one of the Thompson twins, that sort of thing.

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    Yeah, I really thought had a great shot at top 8. I suppose he still does - there's always surprises and movement - but typing out what appears likeliest right now there seems to be a lot of solidity there. Of course I could see teams picking him over one of the Thompson twins, that sort of thing.
    I've got him a spot ahead of Ausar right now, but part of that is I'm thinking his athletic numbers, while not what Ausar's are, will be close enough that his superior shooting touch will elevate him.

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    Falling to 6 or 7 and drafting is probably the worst possible scenario I can imagine. Don’t want that dude even if we were to trade back, which feels like another bad idea.

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    I doubt Orlando makes that trade. I feel like it's like how obsessed we got last year about Charlotte trading their two picks to get ours.

    But... My gut right now is that Hendricks will rise during the draft process. I think will also go top 8. The player that should be around 11 that is still underrated is Bufkin. And then there's Hawkins.
    I think this board is on to the fact that Orlando probably doesn't want to take two rookies in this draft, though I think we might be wrong in assuming they'd want to consolidate to move up (though I think a Brandon Miller-type is a great fit for them). Orlando may rather be in a good position to trade one of those picks for an impact vet to push them over the edge in terms of becoming a playoff team. Or better yet - can they consolidate both of those picks, along with another future pick, and do a Dejounte-like acquisition: border-line all star, but who's arrow is pointing up and is still relatively young? Not sure who fits that bill that could be available. Or maybe Chicago is ready to pull the plug and will do Lavine for those two picks?

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    After admittedly doing zero research this year on potential draftees, a friend sent me some highlights of a kid that there's a teammate of Wembanyama named Bilal Coulibaly.

    He's arguably the second best player on the board as he just declared. Better than Miller and Scoot in my minds eye.

    https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/sta...109181451?s=19

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    If the Spurs don't get the number one pick, expect another year of tanking. I mean, we aren't going to win 50 games next season if we get the number one pick, but resting "injured" starters is what we can expect next year if we don't. That said, I don't think the Spurs can survive many years of tanking because fans are fairweather here. Spurs stink for a while and then people move on to other things.

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    If the Spurs don't get the number one pick, expect another year of tanking. I mean, we aren't going to win 50 games next season if we get the number one pick, but resting "injured" starters is what we can expect next year if we don't. That said, I don't think the Spurs can survive many years of tanking because fans are fairweather here. Spurs stink for a while and then people move on to other things.
    Nope. A lottery year? Sure, but they won't be dumping games like they did this year. What for? A 14% chance at who?

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    I think this board is on to the fact that Orlando probably doesn't want to take two rookies in this draft, though I think we might be wrong in assuming they'd want to consolidate to move up (though I think a Brandon Miller-type is a great fit for them). Orlando may rather be in a good position to trade one of those picks for an impact vet to push them over the edge in terms of becoming a playoff team. Or better yet - can they consolidate both of those picks, along with another future pick, and do a Dejounte-like acquisition: border-line all star, but who's arrow is pointing up and is still relatively young? Not sure who fits that bill that could be available. Or maybe Chicago is ready to pull the plug and will do Lavine for those two picks?
    Orlando has alot of options... and yes, many of us don't think they want two rookies... if they go for a vet or maybe even a young player already in the league to fit their time-line I've got to think its a 2 guard or maybe a PG. Their front court seems pretty set to me.
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    Nope. A lottery year? Sure, but they won't be dumping games like they did this year. What for? A 14% chance at who?
    Things can change a lot in the course of a year, you never know. But if the Spurs are sitting near the bottom of the table come the ASG Break, I could see them switching to the same kind of lineup shenanigans they did this year. I do generally agree, however, that the mindset going into the season should and will be different.

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    Things can change a lot in the course of a year, you never know. But if the Spurs are sitting near the bottom of the table come the ASG Break, I could see them switching to the same kind of lineup shenanigans they did this year. I do generally agree, however, that the mindset going into the season should and will be different.
    Zion was known a year out. Wemby was known a year out. The transformation prospects are seen over the horizon. I'm not just interested in the #1 pick, I'm interested in the #1 pick when it means something.

    The difference between 3 and 6 this year was 12 games. Depending on where we land this year, we may not win more than 12 additional games, even if we try. Position #6 has a 37.2% chance at top 4 and a 9% chance at #1. I'll take that while developing our young players.

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    Nope. A lottery year? Sure, but they won't be dumping games like they did this year. What for? A 14% chance at who?
    Agreed. Should the Spurs be so fortuitous I'd expect them to start making personnel moves towards legitimacy pretty quickly.

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    I'm on the side of not another year tanking. Magically they'll care about defense again. Even if it won't be superb, they'll get after teams on that end. They won't sit players for long periods. They may land in the 33-38 wins range. I don't think that's out of the realm of possibility. Those are the 5-10 picks this year, teams like Portland, Washington, Indiana, etc., and I don't think the Spurs are that much worse than those teams. Unlike what pundits say, this team has a good amount of talent, but it's very young. They should be closer to what they were at the beginning of this year when they beat Minnesota twice and Philadelphia.

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    I'm on the side of not another year tanking. Magically they'll care about defense again. Even if it won't be superb, they'll get after teams on that end. They won't sit players for long periods. They may land in the 33-38 wins range. I don't think that's out of the realm of possibility. Those are the 5-10 picks this year, teams like Portland, Washington, Indiana, etc., and I don't think the Spurs are that much worse than those teams. Unlike what pundits say, this team has a good amount of talent, but it's very young. They should be closer to what they were at the beginning of this year when they beat Minnesota twice and Philadelphia.
    This season was a blatant tank and took a lot of effort to finish top3 with all the DNPs. Luckily for us, noone cares about the Spurs, but if a big market team threw away so many games on purpose, it would talked about daily.

    Tanking would also be bad for everyone's development. We talked about it already, if we get a good player in the draft and everyone keeps improving, with a few more veterans and reclametion projects, it's easily a team similar to this season's Jazz or Pacers.
    No big moves, just save the cap space and make a big trade in 2024.

    Still, gotta wait until the 16th to see what the future holds. Not getting a top3 pick would be really bad.

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