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    I don't care to discuss the issue.
    Blake finally being honest. He just ankle bites. Another loser in life desperately trying to be a winner on the internet.

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    Again, either what I am saying is right or wrong. I am not claiming to be or not to be an expert. You are the one that acts as if that makes a difference. Once again you just make it personal instead of discussing the issue.

    I think the better question is why do you feel the need to discredit anyone who discusses this issue? Reminds me of Joey and his Ukraine nonsense.
    I'm discrediting you because you have no credit. You've brought nothing here but your own opinion on the matter. Same with CC. Why should anyone listen to you guys?

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    Blake finally being honest. He just ankle bites. Another loser in life desperately trying to be a winner on the internet.
    could this post be any richer

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    I'm discrediting you because you have no credit. You've brought nothing here but your own opinion on the matter. Same with CC. Why should anyone listen to you guys?
    You megalomania is adorable. You think you are en led to judge expertise. Nevermind that appeal to authority is a logical fallacy.

    Gene expression is not an opinion. The atrophy related to hormone therapy is not an opinion but rather real world phenomenon.

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    Blake finally being honest. He just ankle bites. Another loser in life desperately trying to be a winner on the internet.
    I have no doubt he is trolling but when you take that line he is just thinking you are mad and laughing about it. I approach it like speaking to sarcasm and look to what they are attempting to do with what they say. Like speaking to a child.

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    You megalomania is adorable. You think you are en led to judge expertise. Nevermind that appeal to authority is a logical fallacy.

    Gene expression is not an opinion. The atrophy related to hormone therapy is not an opinion but rather real world phenomenon.
    I'm en led to say you're not qualified at all to speak on this matter.

    I think it's great the NCAA appealed to the scientific authorities to base their policies on. I think it'd be pathetic if they asked you.

    This isn't difficult.

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    I have no doubt he is trolling but when you take that line he is just thinking you are mad and laughing about it. I approach it like speaking to sarcasm and look to what they are attempting to do with what they say. Like speaking to a child.
    Your ad hominem red herring is boring. What is really at the root of this is you posit nothing and rely on contrarianism.
    I mean, you're basically complaining about you

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    I'm en led to say you're not qualified at all to speak on this matter.

    I think it's great the NCAA appealed to the scientific authorities to base their policies on. I think it'd be pathetic if they asked you.

    This isn't difficult.
    Wow, you are getting really worked up here. You can keep on beating that drum trying to get a rise if it makes you feel better. Given that you do not want to actually discuss the issue I will do just that. I am not relying on expertise to make my claims.

    First study I pull up is from a physiologist/biochemist and she is discussing exactly what I am talking about.

    Male physiology underpins their better athletic performance including increased muscle mass and strength, stronger bones, different skeletal structure, better adapted cardiorespiratory systems, and early developmental effects on brain networks that wires males to be inherently more compe ive and aggressive. Testosterone secreted before birth, postnatally, and then after puberty is the major factor that drives these physiological sex differences, and as adults, testosterone levels are ten to fifteen times higher in males than females. The non-overlapping ranges of testosterone between the sexes has led sports regulators, such as the International Olympic Committee, to use 10 nmol/L testosterone as a sole physiological parameter to divide the male and female sporting divisions. Using testosterone levels as a basis for separating female and male elite athletes is arguably flawed. Male physiology cannot be reformatted by estrogen therapy in transwoman athletes because testosterone has driven permanent effects through early life exposure.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9331831/

    So yeah. Gene expression and objective reality.
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    yOuRe GeTTINg wOrKed uP! I'll pRoVe iT bY by mE poStiNg a LonG pOst wiTh an ArtiCle!


    Honestly, I have no idea what your actual argument is. I at least know what CC's is.

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    Wow, you are getting really worked up here. You can keep on beating that drum trying to get a rise if it makes you feel better. Given that you do not want to actually discuss the issue I will do just that. I am not relying on expertise to make my claims.

    First study I pull up is from a physiologist/biochemist and she is discussing exactly what I am talking about.



    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9331831/

    So yeah. Gene expression and objective reality.
    The article made perfect sense to people with even average reading conprehension.

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    The article made perfect sense to people with even average reading conprehension.
    He is just playing dumb so as to troll. He is not that dumb just like he wasn't so dumb to ask for advice about his cheating wife in a place and time where cuck was the preferred insult.

    He doesn't want us to discuss this issue so he is acting like a child.

    He rails at me for not being an expert so I cite the NIH and he now is doing this . There is no point in addressing a nihilist dimwit at face value.

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    He is just playing dumb so as to troll. He is not that dumb just like he wasn't so dumb to ask for advice about his cheating wife in a place and time where cuck was the preferred insult.

    He doesn't want us to discuss this issue so he is acting like a child.

    He rails at me for not being an expert so I cite the NIH and he now is doing this . There is no point in addressing a nihilist dimwit at face value.
    totally not worked up.

    Take 2: what is your actual argument?

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    totally not worked up.

    Take 2: what is your actual argument?
    Devolving into the question thing. Hmmm. By the way I don't care if you can understand my argument for the reasons stated above.

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    The article made perfect sense to people with even average reading conprehension.
    you didn't even read it

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    Devolving into the question thing. Hmmm.
    What are you even doing here then?

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    Here is an article describing the atrophy mechanic I was speaking of and how it doesn't compensate. The first article alluded to it but this was a direct study.

    Twenty-four studies were identified and reviewed. Transwomen experienced significant decreases in all parameters measured, with different time courses noted. After 4 months of hormone therapy, transwomen have Hgb/HCT levels equivalent to those of cisgender women. After 12 months of hormone therapy, significant decreases in measures of strength, LBM and muscle area are observed. The effects of longer duration therapy (36 months) in eliciting further decrements in these measures are unclear due to paucity of data. Notwithstanding, values for strength, LBM and muscle area in transwomen remain above those of cisgender women, even after 36 months of hormone therapy.
    https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/55/15/865

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    Great, what's your argument here exactly? What do you think should be done, exactly?

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    Great, what's your argument here exactly? What do you think should be done, exactly?
    Really simple. Humans that grew up with s and testosterone play with humans that grew up with s and testosterone. Nothing complicated there. It's not transphobia it's common sense.

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    Great, what's your argument here exactly? What do you think should be done, exactly?
    Policy debate with you sound boring as . Pass.

    What makes you think anyone needs to answer your questions, exactly? What do you think you done to deserve such presumption, exactly?

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    Really simple. Humans that grew up with s and testosterone play with humans that grew up with s and testosterone. Nothing complicated there. It's not transphobia it's common sense.
    You want this to be something for legislators to take on?

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    Policy debate with you sound boring as . Pass.

    What makes you think anyone needs to answer your questions, exactly? What do you think you done to deserve such presumption, exactly?
    Who are you to say I should do anything more than just lol at you here? If you're too scared to state what you want to happen with this issue then that's all you get.

    Now whine some more.

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    Great, what's your argument here exactly? What do you think should be done, exactly?
    I have made many arguments and backed them up with proof.

    Your premises are as usual.

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    I have made many arguments and backed them up with proof.

    Your premises are as usual.
    What argument? Why is such a chore for you just to cleanly and simply state what you want to happen here?

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    Who are you to say I should do anything more than just lol at you here? If you're too scared to state what you want to happen with this issue then that's all you get.

    Now whine some more.
    You edited the first time to add that you were laughing at me. You then edited it again to tell me that I am whining.

    So you are basically oscillating between the ty socratic method to this straight troll routine when countered.

    All you are trying to do is antagonize CC and me. I get why you don't like me. Don't worry I think you're ing creepy whoever you are.

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    You edited the first time to add that you were laughing at me. You then edited it again to tell me that I am whining.

    So you are basically oscillating between the ty socratic method to this straight troll routine when countered.

    All you are trying to do is antagonize CC and me. I get why you don't like me. Don't worry I think you're ing creepy whoever you are.
    Ok, stick to whining. Or maybe talk it out with your therapist instead. What do I care?

    And lol I don't know you so I don't like or hate you. Weird that you do.

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