Kawhi Leonard “Injury Diagnosis”

[poopbox]

Imagine we had super maxed this guy and we were in year 3 of him missing the playoffs / missing around half the season

[diego]

kawhi and his what ifs

What if lebron started his career with 3 hofers and the goat coach

What if Durant didn't waste half his career playing next to Westbrook and Roberson

What if..

End of the day, just about any all NBA level wing in history could have won with the 2014 spurs or 2019 raps, for all the bad luck kawhi had with health he had maybe the best luck in terms of draft situation / team strength. Never, not once in his career, did his teams depend on him to carry them. And people compare with MJ? Play style wise ok, career wise not even close

[Dex]

Obviously we'll never know, but I find it interesting how Kawhi was known as being such a "gym rat" and constantly working on his body and game. I wonder if he overdid it which led to him burning out his legs early.

That said, adding this injury to his extended list, I doubt he will ever be the same player again. Yes, a meniscus isn't as bad as it used to be but all of these things compound each other. He may be great for games at a time, but that's it.

[Ocotillo]

Jimmy Butler was drafted the same year as Nephew, I would offer Butler has had a better career than number 2.

[Drom John]

Jimmy Butler was drafted the same year as Nephew, I would offer Butler has had a better career than number 2.

BR-Ref NBA & ABA Career Combined (Regular Season + Playoffs) Leaders and Records for Win Shares

69) 120.58 Zelmo Beaty
70) 120.45 Jimmy Butler
71) 120.36 Jack Sikma

84) 113.74 Elton Brand
85) 113.22 Kawhi Leonard
86) 112.33 Andre Iguodala

[MultiTroll]

Jimmy Butler was drafted the same year as Nephew, I would offer Butler has had a better career than number 2.

Overall perhaps.

Peak no way.

[buttsR4rebounding]

The Clippers should do what I thought the Spurs should have done with DRob once his back problems got worse. Hold him out until the all-star game. Then give him the last 25 games to round into playoff shape. Save his body for when games count.

[MultiTroll]

Obviously we'll never know, but I find it interesting how Kawhi was known as being such a "gym rat" and constantly working on his body and game. I wonder if he overdid it which led to him burning out his legs early.

Not just Kwa but...

The gym rat and "stays in gym til midnight" gets glorified by storytellers but i wonder if its a ulative downer in the long run for ALL.
Certainly think playing on concrete is horrible long term.

Johny Wooden and UCLA spent big bucks on some kind of soft sand beneath the hardwood at old UCLA.
After the flooding tho, not sure if new floor also had this bouncey foundation.

Greedy NBA and players certainly won't do anything about it. Would think a better floor could help with injuries.

[koriwhat]

him! Couldn't happen to a better man.

[barakz21]

Man, that “leak” by that Clippers media guy is gold. Hopefully we get more of that. Also, pretty sure it hasn’t been said enough and it never will, but nephew.

[exstatic]

The Clippers should do what I thought the Spurs should have done with DRob once his back problems got worse. Hold him out until the all-star game. Then give him the last 25 games to round into playoff shape. Save his body for when games count.

It doesn’t matter how much he rests. He missed 90% of a season with us, and 100% of last season in LA. He just can’t plan a bunch of games in a row.

[Ocotillo]

Nephew probably did have a better peak but I am speaking of complete player; talent, contribution, at ude, injury-prone, team player. Nephew is incomplete because of his inability to stay healthy and I would add he is a lousy teammate.

[exstatic]

Nephew probably did have a better peak but I am speaking of complete player; talent, contribution, at ude, injury-prone, team player. Nephew is incomplete because of his inability to stay healthy and I would add he is a lousy teammate.

Please tell me you’re not talking about MJ…

[SupremeGuy]

The fact that modern medicine/treatments/PEDs haven't been able to give him more stability in his knee is astounding. Curry's ankles were weaker than . I don't remember the last time Curry had ankle problems. I wonder when Lebron's body will finally start giving out.

[heyheymymy]

Hate to admit it but just watching this LAL MEM series you can see how successfully Lebron has maintained his fitness.

He is jacked and seems to have impressive stamina/endurance. He's 38.

I say he should pay his trainers and nutritionists whatever they ask. And hats off to him for no doubt the exhausting consistency to keep up.

Of course he took some considerable load management the past few seasons but still he has looked ready when it matters most.

We will see how long that holds up but I saw one game this series lebron was the first laker since Shaq to post a 20/20 playoff game

[Racspur1]

F**K leonard I'm tired of hearing about his wimpy ass !!!

[Ocotillo]

Please tell me you’re not talking about MJ…

Oh God no, my earlier comparison with Jimmy Butler.

[baseline bum]

Overall perhaps.

Peak no way.

Would be interesting to have seen Jimmy Butler on a team with Duncan, Parker, Pop, Green, Diaw, Splitter, Mills, and Ginobili tbh.

[Mr. Body]

Hate to admit it but just watching this LAL MEM series you can see how successfully Lebron has maintained his fitness.

He is jacked and seems to have impressive stamina/endurance. He's 38.

I say he should pay his trainers and nutritionists whatever they ask. And hats off to him for no doubt the exhausting consistency to keep up.

Of course he took some considerable load management the past few seasons but still he has looked ready when it matters most.

We will see how long that holds up but I saw one game this series lebron was the first laker since Shaq to post a 20/20 playoff game

Yeah, Human Growth Hormones are really effective.

[spursparker9]

Jimmy Butler > Nephew

[heyheymymy]

Yeah, Human Growth Hormones are really effective.

LeBiogenesis James

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biogenesis_scandal

Bosh < Bosch

[barakz21]

Hate to admit it but just watching this LAL MEM series you can see how successfully Lebron has maintained his fitness.

He is jacked and seems to have impressive stamina/endurance. He's 38.

I say he should pay his trainers and nutritionists whatever they ask. And hats off to him for no doubt the exhausting consistency to keep up.

Of course he took some considerable load management the past few seasons but still he has looked ready when it matters most.

We will see how long that holds up but I saw one game this series was the first laker since Shaq to post a 20/20 playoff game

I hate to admit that LA-MEM was the best series for me, and that I was rooting for LA. Best for me because they’ll either embarrass the Grizz or they lose in the first round, it’s a win-win for me.

The Grizzlies sure talk too much for a team who hasn’t even done anything yet.

[The Truth #6]

I suppose the Debbie Downer/armchair psychiatrist interpretation of Kawhi is that he felt abandoned by his father and now he abandons everyone else. And then throw in Uncle who has his own agenda and this is what we get. A totally isolated individual who only exists through basketball and has been manipulated and enabled year after year since he came to San Antonio and has almost no connection to anyone.

[Twisted_Dawg]

I suppose the Debbie Downer/armchair psychiatrist interpretation of Kawhi is that he felt abandoned by his father and now he abandons everyone else. And then throw in Uncle who has his own agenda and this is what we get. A totally isolated individual who only exists through basketball and has been manipulated and enabled year after year since he came to San Antonio and has almost no connection to anyone.

Didn't Spurs Talk diagnose long ago he has Asperger syndrome?

[Mr. Body]

Didn't Spurs Talk diagnose long ago he has Asperger syndrome?

That diagnosis no longer exists. It's just part of autism now.

And he might. But being autistic is not the same as being an asshole. Elon Musk claims he has Aspergers but he's just an asshole.