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Are you implying that Maravich wasn't a top college player, because if so, you're wrong.
I see, so there’s only been one “top” college player in the league who never led his team to the NCAA tourney and managed to have an All star career or better.
Are you implying that Maravich wasn't a top college player, because if so, you're wrong.
nah. i was still intrigued when he was in philly. he's clearly done
He’s so broken now. I suspect his career is over the second his contract ends in 2025
He has issues of the mental kind.
Simmons could learn a lot from Sochan, but, no!
He's a steaming pile of dog on the worst contract in the league. I can't think of anything further from a Spurs move.
If the draft goes horrible and Nets attach multiple unprotected 1st round picks I'd consider it.
I agree with everyone's assessment of Simmons the (current player). But I'd consider taking on his contract for not less the 2 FRPs. Two FRPs and a sweetener would be ideal. We could use a large contract on the books with new CBA. We might need a large contract to swap later. We need to continue to stockpile picks. And if Simmons has any hopes of recovering his career, San Antonio is perhaps the best place for him to do it.
Against the above is the negative to taking him is providing him with minutes that should instead go to recent or future picks.
It's Bridges or nothing IMO. That contract is as toxic as contracts get.
No, I didn’t say Pistol Pete wasn’t. I just used the quotation to lump top collegiate players i.e productive though not necessarily successful, successful AND productive. Idk if that makes sense to you, I may not accurately trying to convey what I’m trying to say (English being my second language).
I was going to wisecrack about how this board would react if the Spurs used their first pick as Philly did and took a Ben Simmons. The horror!
Looking back to see when he was drafted I looked at what the tanking Sixers did:
2013 - Nerlens Noel picked at 6
2014 - Joel Embid picked at 3
2015 - Jahlil Okafor picked at 3
2016 - Simmons picked at 1
At least they ended up with Embid (Milwaukee took Jabari Parker just ahead of them) but man, that's a lot of tanking and pain for 1 great pick out of 4 attempts and if Milwaukee had taken Embid instead, they would have really been screwed.
This is why you don't tank long term. None of those were seen as particularly bad picks when selected. You also stopped too soon. Markelle Fultz was their other #1 overall in 2017.
2017 - Markelle Fultz at 1
Any opinions why Cam Whitmore didn’t make it to the tournament?
Wasn't that when the NIT was ranked higher than the NCAAT?
2023 All-Stars that did not take their teams to the NCAA tournament.
Anthony Edwards
Paul George (2 years)
Damian Lillard (4 years)
Villanova was pretty bad and he wasn't good enough to elevate them.
@ the idea of trading anyone for Ben Simmons.
it actually is why you tank long term. getting one great pick doesnt guarantee star return. you want more swings until you get your guy
And where has Embiid taken them? You burn your ing franchise down for half a decade for one trip to the ECF?
I assumed this was a thread from two summers ago.
Still remembering people on this website wanting to give up DJM + multiple 1st rounders for Ben
Exhibit #3829381290 of why this website should be used for entertainment purposes only
No. This was right in the middle of the great UCLA dynasty.
As late as the 1970s the NIT and NCAAT were still somewhat rivals and teams were still picking the NIT instead. As the decade went on and leading into the Bird Magic game, the nationwide attention for the NCAAT was cementing itself. Maravich winning the NIT was still pretty important.
I assumed this was a thread from two summers ago.
Still remembering people on this website wanting to give up DJM + multiple 1st rounders for Ben
Exhibit #3829381290 of why this website should be used for entertainment purposes onlyResults without context. As if it were possible to predict Simmons having a combination of mental health and back issues.
Granted, I was never a fan nor wanted him, I was merely playing devil's advocate because I thought the Spurs would never re-build (at least as long as Pop was still active), so I figured for a then reasonable price, he could makes sense for what they appeared to be trying to do.
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